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07-05-2013, 03:57 AM
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Most important part of that Brooks article



http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...ontent=Rangers
****in' A. Staal is such an important part of the defense, it's been awhile since we've seen him play so I feel like we take him for granted. The Rangers' fully healthy blueline is probably the best in the NHL.

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Not sure where the whole "Rangers need depth on D" is coming from. Just re-sign Eminger and the depth will be perfect.

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http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...ontent=Rangers
Hopefully Brooks is right and we can bring Dominic Moore back cheap.

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Del Zotto is a disaster on the right side.

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I'm fine with Moore coming back. Probably like a one year $950,000 deal is my guess.

I'd still like to add one more DMan like Blum or even resign Emminger. AV is a calmer presence than Torts and probably isn't as much a jerk for having extra players who aren't playing stay up with the big club. Plus, it allows more comfort and time for McLIrath and Noreau to develop and play big minutes in the AHL.

This offseason is going to be similar to 2010 when the Rangers only signed Biron, Boogard (RIP), Frolov, and invited Feds to camp. They also traded for Emminger.

Aka, don't expect fireworks, just subtle depth moves.

Still, Slats and Gordon might have a trick or two, or something they didn't leak to Brooks up their sleeve.

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07-05-2013, 06:16 AM
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I'd hope they sign both Blum and Eminger. 82 game season, the more quality depth, the better.

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Definitely bring back Emmy. Nothing wrong with him as a bottom pairing D-man when injuries strike and they will. It's a long season.

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Having a healthy Staal and a developing McIlrath gives the Rangers more depth. Gordie Clark did an interview with Jim Cerny yesterday. You can tell that McIlrath has had a good week. He needs to have a good summer of training. Come to camp in September to fight for a job. Even if goes to the AHL and plays the first half down there and play a ton of minutes(which looks like the Rangers plan),he can still be a factor during the 2nd half of the season or fill in with any injuries.

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The Red Wings' primary need is a second-line center. Florida's Stephen Weiss, 30, has been their main focus for weeks. But, they may not be willing to meet his contract demands, expected to be at least five years and more than $5 million per season.

Washington's Mike Ribeiro is seeking a similar deal. That's more than the Red Wings would be willing to give a 33-year-old.
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This free agent class is void of bona fide superstars. The closest would be Boston right wing Nathan Horton. But, his reported asking price of six years at $6 million a season, coupled with injury concerns (concussion, shoulder), make him a risky acquisition.

New Jersey right wing David Clarkson has a nice combination of scoring ability and toughness, but he is seeking a seven-year deal worth between $5 million and $6 million per season. The Red Wings aren't getting into a bidding war for him.

The club has not made any headway in talks with Valtteri Filppula because the enigmatic forward wants a seven-year pact in excess of $5 million per season. He is generating a lot of interest. Tampa Bay and Columbus are possible landing spots.
http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index....to_shallo.html

Horton to Columbus. Their doctors checked out his shoulder when Horton visited Columbus on Wednesday. It looks like the Columbus TV play by play guy Jeff Rimer helped facilitate the Horton to Columbus move. Rimer used to work for the Panthers when Horton played there. Rimer and JD are best friends. They did a syndicated radio show together in the 1990's.

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Horton suffered 2 concussions in 8-9 months. June 2011. January/February 2012. Needs shoulder surgery. $36M for him.

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Giroux signs for 8.2m? Weird how the cap drops but salaries seem to be getting higher...

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What about Devin Setoguchi?

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With the Wild aquiring El Nino... now it's being said that Setoguchi is all but gone from the Wild...

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Del Zotto + Boyle for Setoguchi + 2014 2nd

Cap hits are close.

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Zuccarello - Brassard - Setoguchi
Hagelin - Richards - Callahan

Pretty solid top 9.

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****in' A. Staal is such an important part of the defense, it's been awhile since we've seen him play so I feel like we take him for granted. The Rangers' fully healthy blueline is probably the best in the NHL.

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Not sure where the whole "Rangers need depth on D" is coming from. Just re-sign Eminger and the depth will be perfect.
And maybe DMcI gets his cup of coffee. I thought DZ is a LHD?

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And maybe DMcI gets his cup of coffee. I thought DZ is a LHD?
He is and he's bad on the right side.

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What about Devin Setoguchi?



Del Zotto + Boyle for Setoguchi + 2014 2nd

Cap hits are close.

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Zuccarello - Brassard - Setoguchi
Hagelin - Richards - Callahan

Pretty solid top 9.
MDZ alone is worth more than that return. Besides, I'm not interested in seeing Setoguchi in a Ranger uniform. I'll take a flier on Mueller, or let the likes of Miller, Kristo, Fast and Hrivik vie for the opportunity to temporarily replace Hagelin and Callahan to start the season. If the Rangers are dealing MDZ, I want more than Setoguchi.

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Brooks says Rangers have talked with Dom Moore about being 4th line center.
That signing would make a TON of sense. Great PKer. Great on face-offs. Tons of speed.

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You can't have too many centers. Not all can be moved to the wing without suffering, but many can make the move.
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What about Devin Setoguchi?



Del Zotto + Boyle for Setoguchi + 2014 2nd

Cap hits are close.

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Zuccarello - Brassard - Setoguchi
Hagelin - Richards - Callahan

Pretty solid top 9.
That's an awful deal. Seto would not return MDZ. IF they move Del Zotto, I want a very good, young forward. Brett Connolly +. Alex Burmistrov +.

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He is and he's bad on the right side.
Exactly. I believe Moore has played on the right side a bit in his career, he may be the candidate to move over. Still seems like a bad idea IF they can move MDZ for a high return, do it. Sign Scuderi to pair with Moore.

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That would be pleasant to play him 8? times a year....

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MDZ alone is worth more than that return. Besides, I'm not interested in seeing Setoguchi in a Ranger uniform. I'll take a flier on Mueller, or let the likes of Miller, Kristo, Fast and Hrivik vie for the opportunity to temporarily replace Hagelin and Callahan to start the season. If the Rangers are dealing MDZ, I want more than Setoguchi.
Just thinking of ways they can improve their top six. With Asham and Powe on waivers I have new-found confidence that the bottom six will work itself out with youth and a cheap signing like Dominic Moore.

I'm concerned about the top six. We could really use another winger.

I feel Setoguchi is a solid player, capable of 20 or so goals on a good team. With playmakers like Brassard and Zuccarello, his production could be very good. And he isn't small, which is a plus. Assuming the rumors are true and he's on the block.

Mueller interests me, too. He would be a low-risk sign. Same as Blum (for defense depth).

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That would be pleasant to play him 8? times a year....
Not ideal.

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Giroux signs for 8.2m? Weird how the cap drops but salaries seem to be getting higher...
The economy is worthless but the NHL has developed really well. Now the economy is looking slightly better and things in the league are looking great. The product is OK. The biggest franchises are doing awesome.

The cap will go right back up in a hurry and then some.

Next summer, depending On maybe a few deadline deals, more or less 30 TEAMS will have 6-10m of cap space.

How many teams are rebuilding right now? Calgary and ??? 29 teams looking to get better and win the cup! With 10m of capspace each.

Hence why I definitely would have squeezed in Lecavalier if possible under our cap. Hence why teams are going after players this summer to the extent possible, because from now on 5.5-6+m per is what a Bozak or a Fillpula or a Hudler or a Leino will cost. And you will probably be competing with a handful of teams for each player. The (i) contenders (ii) in the big markets will be the only ones who can get players because besides dollars they are more attractive.

Philly isn't stupid. Or maybe they are, but not like brain dead. They want to be a good team this season. If Philadelphia is a good team:

A) Their players will score alot of pts and have alot of value on the open market; which gives them flexibility; and

B) They will be attractive for UFAs and will get more players; which gives them more flexibility.

If they don't get Streit and Lecavalier: a) they miss the POs again this season, b) quite possible Schenns, Couts and co have very mediocre stats, c) many of their players loose their glare and loose value, d) they aren't as attractive and have to overpay UFAs, e) they can't make trades as easy when a bunh of guys like Schenns, Voracek, Couts, Read and co have had mediocre seasons back to back.

Appearances certainly matters!

It will be extremely hard to get players!

Not doing anything is far from always a good option! (where are we without signing Gabby, BR and trading for Nash? Answer: good enough to not get any high draft picks, not nearly good enough to go anywhere...)


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That would be pleasant to play him 8? times a year....
With his recent concussion issues, could be a lot less than 8 times lol.

Clowe is a very risky signing for anyone.

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That would be pleasant to play him 8? times a year....
How many of those will he miss with an injury?

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That would be pleasant to play him 8? times a year....
Do you feel Clowe will still be an effective player with his recent spur of concussions? Personally, I think he's going to get paid purely on his reputation and not what he can realistically provide for an NHL club now.

Edit: Jeez, we piled on Viper quite quickly there. Sorry man.

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The economy is worthless but the NHL has developed really well. Now the economy is looking slightly better and things in the league are looking great. The product is OK. The biggest franchises are doing awesome.

The cap will go right back up in a hurry and then some.

Next summer, depending a few deadline deals, more or less 30 TEAMS will have 6-10m of cap space.

How many teams are rebuilding this now? Calgary and ??? 29 teams looking to get better and win the cup! With 10m of capspace each.

Hence why I definitely would have squeezed in Lecavalier if possible under our cap. Hence why teams are going after players this summer to the extent possible, because from now on 5.5-6+m per is what a Bozak or a Fillpula or a Hudler or a Leino will cost. And you will probably be competing with a handful of teams for each player. The (i) contenders in (ii) the big markets will be the only ones who can get players because besides dollars they are more attractive.

Philly isn't stupid. Or maybe they are, but not like brain dead. They want to be a good team this season. If Philadelphia is a good team:
A) Their players will score alot of pts and have alot of value on the open market; which gives them flexibility; and

B) They will be attractive for UFAs and will get more players.

If they don't get Streit and Lecavalier: a) they miss the POs again this season, b) quite possible Schenns, Couts and co have very mediocre stats, c) many of their players loose their glare and loose value, d) they aren't as attractive and have to overpay UFAs, e) they can't make trades as easy when a bunh of guys like Schenns, Voracek, Couts, Read and co have had mediocre seasons back to back.

Appearances certainly matters!

It will be extremely hard to get players!

Not doing anything is far from ways a good option! (where are we without signing Gabby, BR and trading for Nash? Answer: good enough to not get any high draft picks, not nearly good enough to go anywhere...)
Also if the league expands by two (which is likely) that's more revenue.

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Also if the league expands by two (which is likely) that's more revenue.
And less players to go around. More diluted talent, UFAs get overpaid even more. Cap will go up even more though, first few years of an expansion team are generally good for revenue right? (Besides the obvious expansion fee they have to pay)

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Do you feel Clowe will still be an effective player with his recent spur of concussions? Personally, I think he's going to get paid purely on his reputation and not what he can realistically provide for an NHL club now.

Edit: Jeez, we piled on Viper quite quickly there. Sorry man.


No worries. I do think he will be an effective player again. The issue for me is not the amount he will get, but the length of the contract. I think he can be effective for another 3~4 years. I am talking ~40 points + 150 PIM's which to me is very hard to find. The issue becomes the years after that.

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I hope we deal Boyle and bring Dominic Moore back.

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If he is ready, I hope he gets to heal a little in a Rangers uniform where his NHL career started.

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