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07-05-2013, 10:37 AM
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No McDonagh or Stepan.
Thank god! I thought someone would've, especially McDonagh. Richards will get bought out then IMO.

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Thank god! I thought someone would've, especially McDonagh. Richards will get bought out then IMO.
It's too late for Richards to get bought out.

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It would seriously **** with us. Then again I would feel bad for the GM who threw any of our players an offersheet. Sather is a vindictive SOB.
We hear about revenge offer sheets all the time but in reality, they are very hard to come to fruition. It requires some very good timing.. a team with cap space, a team without cap space that has spent a full year not negotiating with their RFAs.

Quite honestly I don't think any GM ever really cares about the revenge factor, especially in a salary cap world. Just weighing compensation vs. acquiring player.

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no real point offer sheeting a team with lots of money

not if they spend alot this afternoon.


If im the habs I offer sheet McD.

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Thank god! I thought someone would've, especially McDonagh. Richards will get bought out then IMO.
too late to use a compliance BO on Richards now. You'll have to wait until next summer

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What does an offering team loses when an offer sheet is signed but matched by actual team?
Reputation?
Rejection from other gms or other players? Get real everybody. Its a tough tough world out there.

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and yet if Holmgren does it he's classless
There's a difference between overpaying for someone in an offersheet, and specifically structuring an offer to **** over a small-market team. $50+ mil signing bonus when the team is in financial difficulty is just a ****** thing to do.

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not if they spend alot this afternoon.


If im the habs I offer sheet McD.
You wouldnt even have to OS him if you didn't make the Gomez trade

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What does an offering team loses when an offer sheet is signed but matched by actual team?
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Rejection from other gms or other players? Get real everybody. Its a tough tough world out there.
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Who would do this now? Maybe just the Oilers who really don't need many high pics any more. Losing four first rounder's by the leafs would be death to sign Pietrangelo.


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So which teams are the most vulnerable factoring in attractive RFAs and tight against either the cap or their internal salary budget?

Sounds like the Blues if Pieterangelo gets hit with a huge offer sheet. Forced to deal Stewart on the cheap?

Any others?

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So which teams are the most vulnerable factoring in attractive RFAs and tight against either the cap or their internal salary budget?
The Kings for one, though their RFA are not tier 1 I'm guessing they're pretty well regarded around the league as far as depth players go. Clifford, Martinez, Muzzin, Lewis...

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You wouldnt even have to OS him if you didn't make the Gomez trade

I know...I still have visions of a Subban - McD top pairing for The Habs

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Dreger seems to be talking out of his ass.

Isles have like, $30 million in available cap space--there is 0% chance the Isles wouldn't be able to match.
Cap space means nothing when the owner refuses to open his wallet.

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There's a difference between overpaying for someone in an offersheet, and specifically structuring an offer to **** over a small-market team. $50+ mil signing bonus when the team is in financial difficulty is just a ****** thing to do.
No it's not

Is it our fault we have money? Should we actually penalize teams that have money? Cause that's pretty much what Bettman has done.

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I feel Bernier will get an Offersheet from the Flyers.

Something stupid and low, and the Leafs will match.
If it's stupid and low, Bernier doesn't have to agree to it...

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NONIS. THROW THAT OFFER SHEET HARD AT PIETRANGELO


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It's funny because of all the prized RFAs out there, you'd think the Rangers would be the biggest target simply because they have quite a few to sign. They have enough space but a bloated offer sheet can really screw with their plans.

Devils have already said they'd match any offer sheet to Henrique btw.
What else would NJ possibly say?

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Interesting timing now that it's announced the Leafs have 25mil of "space". I hated the lockout, but the new CBA has brought the best offseason ever!!!!
I hear this $25 million everywhere but they have 12 guys signed. That's not much cash for eight guys maybe two subs

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What else would NJ possibly say?
Umm.. what exactly are you trying to prove with this post?

I was simply relaying a quote from Lou that TG reported the other day.. I'm not the Devils, so obviously there's no way I would not what exactly is occurring..

May as well never listen to any team quotes if this is how we react to them

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The Kings for one, though their RFA are not tier 1 I'm guessing they're pretty well regarded around the league as far as depth players go. Clifford, Martinez, Muzzin, Lewis...
Those are good depth players but any of them due for a big raise? With $5.9m in space, Kings should be fine re-signing them, no?

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There's a difference between overpaying for someone in an offersheet, and specifically structuring an offer to **** over a small-market team. $50+ mil signing bonus when the team is in financial difficulty is just a ****** thing to do.
Business. Happens on CNBC every day.
Nashville had the right to take trade offers or the picks as agreed to by all teams through the CBA at that time.
God... There is a floor and a cap. You were right before without the cap but now that is more like being a socialist.

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I hear this $25 million everywhere but they have 12 guys signed. That's not much cash for eight guys maybe two subs
It won't be that much when everything is said and done. Kadri, Franson, Bernier and Colborne. Factor in trying to sign Clarkson and Bozak and may leave room for one decent contract more.

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Here are a couple of players worth going after as RFA's, that teams could have troubles matching.

Erik Gustafsson, D, Philadelphia Flyers
MARCUS JOHANSSON C WASHINGTON CAPITALS

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So which teams are the most vulnerable factoring in attractive RFAs and tight against either the cap or their internal salary budget?

Sounds like the Blues if Pieterangelo gets hit with a huge offer sheet. Forced to deal Stewart on the cheap?

Any others?
Canucks have Tanev, Weise, Schroeder ... not sure if they are worth over-paying for right now but all are guys who should be NHLers.

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