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I'm all for Moore.. I think Boyle-Moore-Dorsett is actually a competent 4th line.
That's a very good energy line. My main issue is the lack of toughness outside of Dorsett in that case.

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Since AV said he wants his 4th line to be a energy line, would you consider Boyle, Fuggeeetttaaaboot it, and Dorsett to be that line? Just curious.

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That's a very good energy line. My main issue is the lack of toughness outside of Dorsett in that case.
According to most Ranger fans toughness is overrated

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I'm all for Moore.. I think Boyle-Moore-Dorsett is actually a competent 4th line.
Do you really want to pay $4.5M to a 4th line? I rather have hungry kids play on minimum deals.

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TSN Panel still talking about Yakupov being available for a d-man.
I'd absolutely do anyone but Mcdonagh, even Girardi. It would be a crazy return though, I doubt we would give up whats needed.

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Does anyone have an idea how much it would cost to lock step and mcd each up for 8 yrs. I'd prefer to pay current rate vice when the cap goes up.
I'd think 4-4.5 each could get it done. And I'd definitely do it. They're going to command 5-6 mill. when they hit free agency.

Considering how long goalies in this league, especially the great ones, stay effective; I think the Rangers' window to win will coincide with the King's great years... and he's got a lot left.

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So the point of the lockout was what exactly?

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According to most Ranger fans toughness is overrated
Yep, until they get pushed around, then it's time to scramble for anyone else to play.

Although, if they think one of Haley/Mashinter can seriously take a role this year, then I am good with it.

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So the point of the lockout was what exactly?
to create another one after this CBA

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I'd absolutely do anyone but Mcdonagh, even Girardi. It would be a crazy return though, I doubt we would give up whats needed.
I think I'd do Yakupov for Girardi, mainly because I can see McIllrath effectively stepping into Girardi's role sooner rather than later.

Yakupov is an incredible talent.

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So the point of the lockout was what exactly?
not having one for another 10 yrs.

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No need for a big splash.

Pick up Moore or Lapierre to center the 4th line, and maybe grab a guy like Nystrom somehow. If we didn't go after Hendricks due to money vs. term, then we can't do anything significant without trading.

Not a bad thing right now, with this UFA overpayment.

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That's a very good energy line. My main issue is the lack of toughness outside of Dorsett in that case.
Boyle plays much tougher when he has a fighter on his line ex. Prust

When it is just him he doesn't really play that role

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Yep, until they get pushed around, then it's time to scramble for anyone else to play.

Although, if they think one of Haley/Mashinter can seriously take a role this year, then I am good with it.
Mash - Boyle - Dorsett next season sounds good to me.

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So the point of the lockout was what exactly?
To temporarily scale back player salaries so that the owners could start raising them again to ridiculous amounts in order to lead to another lockout.

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I think I'd do Yakupov for Girardi, mainly because I can see McIllrath effectively stepping into Girardi's role sooner rather than later.

Yakupov is an incredible talent.
Indeed. Nothing against Girardi, but if you can move him plus a pick for Yakupov you do it.

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According to most Ranger fans toughness is overrated
No fighting is overrated. Toughness and the ability to play the game aren't that easy to find.

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According to most Ranger fans toughness is overrated
I believe a line of Brashear-Haley-Hollweg would be very tough.

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To temporarily scale back player salaries so that the owners could start raising them again to ridiculous amounts in order to lead to another lockout.
I guess the scale back effect lasted a whole zero days in July. These contracts are ridiculous.

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I think I'd do Yakupov for Girardi, mainly because I can see McIllrath effectively stepping into Girardi's role sooner rather than later.

Yakupov is an incredible talent.
Yeah, there is no way in hell Edmonton trades Yakupov for anything on the Rangers roster.

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People have made that mistake before. The Rangers are plenty game.

They just won't be in the best position to respond or deter aggression. They know it. I'm thinking they will address it soon.
I'm all for playing the kids but if we play vets in bottom six then pyatt and Boyle ideally should provide cover/ toughness but they don't. Mcd was run terrible during playoffs and players like ovi will continue to run us until we put an end to it. I don't want our guys abused like that but I don't want a 4 min player taking a roster spot either.

We need a kassian type and we need at least one dman with grit.

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I believe a line of Brashear-Haley-Hollweg would be very tough.
Yes, we are asking for that.....

Hollweg was also not "tough"

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No fighting is overrated. Toughness and the ability to play the game aren't that easy to find.
True.

See: Boston.

Toughness =/= Fighting

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