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07-05-2013, 03:30 PM
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Ryan traded to Ottawa.. Alfredsson who?

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Sens acquire Bobby Ryan for Silfverberg 1rst rounder and Stefan Nosen

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Who would that be?
All of the top 3 perhaps? Or do you not watch them?

Maybe you just want guys who will fight after the whistle, because this "moving guys out of the way" issue is comical.

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Didn't you just bash Dorsett as "only a welterweight"?
No, no I did not.

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Led to believe Ryan deal is for two prospects. Trying to get details.
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Silvferberg, wow

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Wow

Ryan to ott

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All of the top 3 perhaps? Or do you no watch them?

Maybe you just want guys who will fight after the whistle
This is beyond amusing watching you twist my words. Please, continue...

McDonagh, Girardi and Staal do not.

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07-05-2013, 03:32 PM
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Silfverberg, Noesen and 1st to ANA for Bobby Ryan. Big deal for OTT.
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I love the Moore signing. PErfect bottom 6 guy that has skill and can pot some goals. Great signing and very underrated.

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The Rangers have no defenseman on their roster who will move people from in front of their net.

Asham and Haley are good for 3-5 minutes a night. Neither PK's. One dimensional.

Oh wait, according to slipknottin, I want GoOnSZ!
Asham was advertised as a very physical, veteran presence and look how that turned out.

I'm seeing the same thing with scrubs like Nystrom, Hendricks, McLeod, Haley being mentioned as solutions to the Rangers abysmal bottom 6. None of those are skilled players that can play a consistent puck on stick game. I personally do not want a bottom 6 completely filled with hackers and coke machines. We need much more skill, not only in the top 6, but the bottom 6. I want NHL players who can generate offense and can effectively move the puck up the ice, not more guys who keep hitting. We already have Dorsett, Haley and Boyle as options, now we need to surround them with talent.

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Silfverberg, Noesen, 1st for Ryan.

Sigh. I wanted Ryan, feel like we could have beaten that offer.

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Welcome back, Dominic!!!

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The problem is still there. Should we just concede that it will never go away?
No, but we don't need to solve it all today. They are most likely looking at guys like Mashinter/Haley to provide some toughness. It just seems to me that people (not you) around here gripe about a lack of speed/skill and then when we add that they gripe about a lack of toughness.

I want guys that can play hockey, the only player on the roster as I see it who should be moved is Pyatt. Although he had success with AV in the past so maybe that can help him, willing to try it.

Outside of that I have no qualms really other than Richards.

If Boyle is our 4th line C and a couple kids fill the holes I'm totally fine with that to start the season, giving Mashinter another look and Haley an actual chance might not be bad. Mashinter-Boyle-Dorsett as a 4th line is big and or tough. As far as the other lines you big bodies, not overly physical at this point, but they can handle that part of the game. Callahan and Hagelin both throw the body around on the forecheck, with different levels of effectiveness, but we're not hitting to hurt, we're trying to wear D pairings down.

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Holy ****!!!! Huge ass trade!!!

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Yep. Torts line shuffling caused all sorts of problems by the end.
Gotta put a smiley when you make a joke. If not, I'm laughing even hard if you blame Torts for having to play Boyle and Dorsette on higher line.

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This is beyond amusing watching you twist my words. Please, continue...

McDonagh, Girardi and Staal do not.
Lol. You amuse me.

No toughness at all on defense! Bunch or sissies!

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Didn't you just bash Dorsett as "only a welterweight"?
Yeah because guys who can actually fight laugh at him. You don't have to be a goon to be a decent fighter. Prust was a great fighter. Dorsett is more like a Sean Avery. He has a huge mouth but he's not a guy I want handling all of our "extracurricular activities".

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Silvferberg, wow
Comparable deal with the Rangers would be Kreider, Miller and a 1st.

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Silfverberg, Noesen, 1st for Ryan.

Sigh. I wanted Ryan, feel like we could have beaten that offer.
fans or mgmt wouldn't be willing to beat the offer.

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Booby Ryan is an HF legend, think he's overrated and it will show in OTT.

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IMO this team plays better when there's toughness in lineup.
I dont think it's a coincidence that the 11-12 team was so successful and played with such an edge.

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Moore is a good signing.

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Silfverberg, Noesen, 1st for Ryan.

Sigh. I wanted Ryan, feel like we could have beaten that offer.
Kreider (Silf), Miller (Noesen) 1rst is equivalent offer for Ryan.

I wouldn't do it.

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Good read for Ranger fans now that D Moore is back in NHL.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/...rticle9262910/

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