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07-05-2013, 03:13 PM
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He'd be the 5th D-man on this team at best, and the only D-man currently on this roster that I'd commit 7 years to is McD.
wow you really have no clue what youre talking about

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There's a report out of Quebec that the Flyers and Habs are working on a multi-player deal involving Talbot and Coburn.

http://translate.google.com/translat...al-250984.html
For Goulet or Stastny Brothers?

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Canes getting Khudobin, man Boston is losing everyone from last years team.

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Except it's been proven having Henrik Lundqvist isn't enough. Hank has been here eight years, and we've won five playoff series total in those eight years. In the NHL, that's a huge sample size.

We would need MUCH better players in front of Hank to be legitimate contenders every year.
The point is that we have a good/great team. We have made it to the second round two years in a row and one ECF appearance. Thus, if Lundqvist plays otherworldly, and we get a few surprises, we can find ourselves in the finals with our current roster.

Obviously you want to improve every year, but we don't need to model our team after other teams.

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should've kept Rupp?
Do you listen to Bieber? Whats that like?

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One trade I think would be pretty good for both teams

Kane+Burmistrov+Postma rights

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Del Zotto+Boyle+Hagelin/Kreider+pick

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wow you really have no clue what youre talking about
Well he'd arguably be the 5th best dman if Staal is healthy, but probably 4th. Is he better than McD, Staal, or Girardi? I don't know man.

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07-05-2013, 03:16 PM
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should've kept Rupp?
No. Just that toughness has a place in today's game. Montreal has come to that realization.

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LeBrun: "David Clarkson signed a big deal in Toronto but I can tell you he left money on the table elsewhere..."

Why would anyone offer him more than that?

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What we don't? We have a star player (Nash), an elite goaltender (Henrik), great young defenseman (McDonagh), emerging young players.

The rest is maneuvering. We have a legit chance to win the Cup, yes. Not sure if you were being sarcastic.
When did you become a Rangers fan? Last week? Listen my friend, I'm not being sarcastic here because in case you haven't looked at their pathetic history, we've won exactly 1 cup in 73 years and the roster we have here right is totally flawed. We are small, slow and offensively challenged.
Our defense which is way overrated on these board is chockful of a bunch of left side clones who basically all play the same type of finesse game meaning they never clear anybody out from in front of the net and they don't win a lot of battles in the trenches and along the boards. There isn't a legit #1 defenseman(including McDonagh) on this team nor is there a legit #1 center(unless Richards does a 180 degree turnaround) here.

Nash who I wanted desperately and we gave up a # of core foot soldiers to acquire was a big disappointment in terms of his lack of physicality and compete level last year.

In my opinion, we are a middle of the road team that will struggle to make the playoffs this year.

We are not even in the same stratosphere with the Hawks, Bruins, Pens, Wings, Kings and teams like the Leafs, Bolts, Canadiens, Sharks, Islanders and even the Blue Jackets have gotten bigger and better.

I really don't understand your rationale about our boys. I hope you're right and I end up being wrong!

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So pissed about Bobby Ryan. We could have offered a better deal then that.

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Well he'd arguably be the 5th best dman if Staal is healthy, but probably 4th. Is he better than McD, Staal, or Girardi? I don't know man.
hamonic would easily be ahead of girardi and del zotto. depending on how staal plays when he comes back, hamonic would be either #2 or #3 on this team.

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LeBrun: "David Clarkson signed a big deal in Toronto but I can tell you he left money on the table elsewhere..."

Why would anyone offer him more than that?

Probably Edmonton.

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LeBrun: "David Clarkson signed a big deal in Toronto but I can tell you he left money on the table elsewhere..."

Why would anyone offer him more than that?
Edmonton????? Maybe Ottawa after they knew they lost Alfie????

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So pissed about Bobby Ryan. We could have offered a better deal then that.
Would you really want to though? I am not sure I would. You would be looking at something like Kreider + Miller + 1st '14.

I don't think I would take that considering how inconsistent he is.

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So pissed about Bobby Ryan. We could have offered a better deal then that.
Sens paid pretty good imo

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hamonic would easily be ahead of girardi and del zotto. depending on how staal plays when he comes back, hamonic would be either #2 or #3 on this team.
My exact thoughts. Hamonic is really tough to play against.

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Except it's been proven having Henrik Lundqvist isn't enough. Hank has been here eight years, and we've won five playoff series total in those eight years. In the NHL, that's a huge sample size.

We would need MUCH better players in front of Hank to be legitimate contenders every year.
Exactly right! I was beginning to think I was missing something but the truth is there are way to many fans on here drinking the coolade that the "Teflon GM" has been peddling for 13 yrs and 6 coaches!
This team as presently constructed will struggle to make the playoffs.

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Would you really want to though? I am not sure I would. You would be looking at something like Kreider + Miller + 1st '14.

I don't think I would take that considering how inconsistent he is.
considering the people we have passed on for Kreider, he better turn into a legit player.

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So pissed about Bobby Ryan. We could have offered a better deal then that.
Oh yeah? What would you have offered?

Because, as has been mentioned, this would've been like trading Kreider, Miller and a 1st.

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Well he'd arguably be the 5th best dman if Staal is healthy, but probably 4th. Is he better than McD, Staal, or Girardi? I don't know man.
better than Girardi, yeah. he pairs up against the same guys G does and hits them harder. better positioning too, imo.

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The point is that we have a good/great team. We have made it to the second round two years in a row and one ECF appearance. Thus, if Lundqvist plays otherworldly, and we get a few surprises, we can find ourselves in the finals with our current roster.

Obviously you want to improve every year, but we don't need to model our team after other teams.
Not debating that...and it is debatable.

My point is that I constantly read statements that Henrik Lundqvist alone makes us a contender...and we lose playoff games year after year WITH Henrik Lundqvist, often through no fault of his.

We haven't found ourselves in the finals yet with Hank...let's hope this is finally the year.

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Would you really want to though? I am not sure I would. You would be looking at something like Kreider + Miller + 1st '14.

I don't think I would take that considering how inconsistent he is.
agreed. we couldve offered more but i wouldnt want to. bobby ryan is an extremely overrated player. very inconsistent and tends to float. no thank you

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Would you really want to though? I am not sure I would. You would be looking at something like Kreider + Miller + 1st '14.

I don't think I would take that considering how inconsistent he is.
MDZ, miller, and a 1st would be e equivalent. An yes I would do that deal every day of the week to get another bonafide sniper.

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Sens paid pretty good imo
They didn't give up nearly that much. Silfverberg is good but the rest is meh.

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