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07-05-2013, 08:28 PM
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penner isnt lost... yet

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I think what he's getting at is all the teams that have even less cap space than us are still making big moves and improving their team today and will figure the cap out later. We NEED a second line LW to play with Carter and Richards if we want to compete with Chicago, Detroit, and dare I say Dallas this year. There's still Jagr and Morrow out there I guess and I'm sure Dean is trying to get someone but losing Scuderi, Penner, and Richardson and only gaining Schultz is not the best team in the division, and we are definitely worse than we were in the playoffs. If you can;t see that you're just being a homer

EDIT: Forget about Detroit. Still getting used to them being in the East
Richardson was a plug. Penner shows ZERO consistency and technically isn't gone yet. Scuderi was always going to leave and you couldn't control that.

Let's let the day one smoke settle and see what Dean does in the following days.

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07-05-2013, 08:29 PM
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Some people should really, really know what they're talking about before they talk. Iginla WAS basically going to Dallas. Did you hear what Aaron Ward said today? All of those insider guys knew it too. He said it on air. But things changed. They got Seguin. That obviously changed the direction they went with their team. Tonelli was not wrong in the least.
Eh. Just means they were all wrong. I like tonellis posts but if iggy is not in Dallas, then he was wrong period.

Of course things change but for you to sit here and somehow say he wasn't wrong based on others being wrong is humorous.

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We have 5.2m today. We have enough RFA's that we have 1.7m left in the end (and that's if none of them ask for more than their QO). The only teams with less cap space than us right now have nobody left to sign. We have a whole line worth of players to sign and two defensemen. There's not another team left in the NHL who has this many players left to sign and are this low on their cap space.
Actually there's teams that are OVER the cap. They have all summer to figure their cap stuff out.

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07-05-2013, 08:30 PM
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It wouldn't be a free agent season without Matt Barry repeating his annual schtick :
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With Iginla gone, fire up the "Penner returns" - Lombardi fails to land a name FA again and again and again and again

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Actually there's teams that are OVER the cap. They have all summer to figure their cap stuff out.
Just one team over the cap. Once Pronger goes on LTIR, they're not. We've known the cap looked like this since Voynov signed, so we should have been prepared for this. If we want to keep our guys, we are stuck with them and stuck with the team we have.

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07-05-2013, 08:31 PM
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Richardson was a plug. Penner shows ZERO consistency and technically isn't gone yet. Scuderi was always going to leave and you couldn't control that.

Let's let the day one smoke settle and see what Dean does in the following days.
Yep I agree. And I still think something happens. I was just commenting on the thinking that if this is how everything stays until the start of the season that we are worse than we were a month ago. There's no denying that is case.

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07-05-2013, 08:32 PM
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Eh. Just means they were all wrong. I like tonellis posts but if iggy is not in Dallas, then he was wrong period.

Of course things change but for you to sit here and somehow say he wasn't wrong based on others being wrong is humorous.
When NHL insiders, who break almost EVERY trade and signing to happen, agree that Iginla to the Stars was all but a foregone conclusion, I'll tend to agree with them. Again, things change. If Alfie came back, it was a foregone conclusion it was with the Sens. NO ONE thought it'd be with another team. Things change. Get it?

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Just one team over the cap. Once Pronger goes on LTIR, they're not. We've known the cap looked like this since Voynov signed, so we should have been prepared for this. If we want to keep our guys, we are stuck with them and stuck with the team we have.
Fair enough, but don't say we aren't worse than we were yesterday

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07-05-2013, 08:33 PM
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penner isnt lost... yet
We can only hope so...whoever signs him loses.

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It wouldn't be a free agent season without Matt Barry repeating his annual schtick :
Why would you even follow that guy? Literally knows the least about hockey than any other Kings fan I've ever met. I can't take his flip flopping for more than 5 minutes

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It wouldn't be a free agent season without Matt Barry repeating his annual schtick :
That quote really shows how dumb he is. He's basically saying he expected us to sign a big name free agent this year? With WHAT cap space? And what about or RFAs? Just don't sign them? Be like New Jersey and only dress 17 players? I really don't get why people continue to read him.

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Fair enough, but don't say we aren't worse than we were yesterday
We're not.

We lost Penner and gained Frattin, who equaled his production in less games. We lost Scuderi. We're getting Mitchell back.

We're fine.

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From the mouth that never sleeps....



Vanek in Play. Possible Vanek/Miller Blockbuster in the Works (E3)

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Barry is a ******. Worse than e5.


Throw this guy on Richie's wing...



Good size too. Plus he played in a somewhat defensive orientated system last year.

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Why would I be crotchety? I don't understand. I have felt like this for awhile and it seemed like the right time to say something. I just thought it was hilarious. I agree with most of his posts. I just think he takes the rumors he spews a little too far.
I personally love when tg adds stuff to the boards based on what hes hearing. I think it adds alot of interest to the board. If it wasn't for him or people like him we would be talking about such stuff as jeff shultz signing to death or the fact we no longer have suderi for the whole summer. Rumours add alot to the boards and i hope tg never stops if anything i hope he turns into our own rumour person.

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07-05-2013, 08:37 PM
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Vanek in Play. Possible Vanek/Miller Blockbuster in the Works (E3)
That's a ton of money

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We have 9 defenseman, can we just cut them for cap space? Don't see why we need 9. Any call up from Manchester would be better than Ellerby and Schultz. Just don't really see why the hell we have so many 7/8 defenseman as of now.

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Vanek in Play. Possible Vanek/Miller Blockbuster in the Works (E3)
No chance the Kings get Vanek. There is no room and he's gonna be a UFA after this season. But...

Vanek - Kopitar - Williams
Brown - Richards - Carter

I could get used to that.

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I personally love when tg adds stuff to the boards based on what hes hearing. I think it adds alot of interest to the board. If it wasn't for him or people like him we would be talking about such stuff as jeff shultz signing to death or the fact we no longer have suderi for the whole summer. Rumours add alot to the boards and i hope tg never stops if anything i hope he turns into our own rumour person.
I don't get people and rumors. They're just that...rumors. How are you going to have any credibility if your talk shows no truth? It's annoying. People fawn to him and ask him what he knows. When most of the time he knows just as much as we do (nothing).

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Vanek in Play. Possible Vanek/Miller Blockbuster in the Works (E3)
I'd bet the Wild.

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We have 9 defenseman, can we just cut them for cap space? Don't see why we need 9. Any call up from Manchester would be better than Ellerby and Schultz. Just don't really see why the hell we have so many 7/8 defenseman as of now.
2 of the 9 aren't signed ATM, so their cap hits are $0, Ellerby and Schultz were just signed, so that's not happening. So who should be cut? Dewey, Slava, Greene, Mitchell or Regehr? Thought so.

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penner isnt lost... yet
Why should the Kings sign him? So we can see another care free season? I'm tired of that.

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We have 9 defenseman, can we just cut them for cap space? Don't see why we need 9. Any call up from Manchester would be better than Ellerby and Schultz. Just don't really see why the hell we have so many 7/8 defenseman as of now.
The way I see it -

Regehr - Doughty
Mitchell - Voynov
Greene - Muzzin

Martinez
Schultz

Ellerby in Manchester.

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Someone will probably be traded.

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