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01-08-2004, 08:31 AM
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Is Marc Savard still concussed?

Need to know if he's playing tonite. Thanks

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Last I heard, he'll be out for a bit.

Like a lot of concussions, tough for them to say how long it will really be. Cross your fingers.

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01-08-2004, 09:53 AM
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Last I heard, he'll be out for a bit.

Like a lot of concussions, tough for them to say how long it will really be. Cross your fingers.
That will teach the little puke to keep his elbows down.

I also hope he uses that little time off to ponder the meaning of the phrase "what goes around comes around".

The next Atl-Mtl match up should be a great one !

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He did not accompany the team on the road trip, no. He'll be out at least a week.

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I know Savard is no saint, but it wasn't a purposeful elbow if you watch the video...with a neutral perspective. Are there any neutral hockey fans out there that can see things for what they are?
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That will teach the little puke to keep his elbows down.

I also hope he uses that little time off to ponder the meaning of the phrase "what goes around comes around".

The next Atl-Mtl match up should be a great one !

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I know Savard is no saint, but it wasn't a purposeful elbow if you watch the video...with a neutral perspective. Are there any neutral hockey fans out there that can see things for what they are?
I throw your comment right back at you ! How would you know if it was on purpose or not. Fact is the whole thrashers team is dirty. Guys like Petrovicky taking swings with their stick and stuff when they're losing. The Hartley factor I guess.

I can't say that the Savard elbow was 100% on purpose but I find it convenient that his elbow got exactly in the way of Saku's head.

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Saku's head went to Savard's elbow. Did Marc raise his elbow up to meet Saku's head? No suspension...why?...wasn't intentional. Recognize!!!
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I throw your comment right back at you ! How would you know if it was on purpose or not. Fact is the whole thrashers team is dirty. Guys like Petrovicky taking swings with their stick and stuff when they're losing. The Hartley factor I guess.

I can't say that the Savard elbow was 100% on purpose but I find it convenient that his elbow got exactly in the way of Saku's head.

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I know Savard is no saint, but it wasn't a purposeful elbow if you watch the video...with a neutral perspective. Are there any neutral hockey fans out there that can see things for what they are?
Neutral Habs Fans? Are you kidding me?

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Fact is the whole thrashers team is dirty. Guys like Petrovicky taking swings with their stick and stuff when they're losing. The Hartley factor I guess.
Oh my, Petro didn't bash anybody with his stick. He got a shot behind the head from Langdon, and got back and made a move as if he would swing his stick at Langdon, but he didn't. Call that a coward move to answer a coward move, but it isn't by no way dirty.

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That will teach the little puke to keep his elbows down.
That's what I like about Habs fans. The intelligence.

As for Savard, since it's been diagnosed as a concussion (which Koivu wasn't), isn't there a minimum number of days that he must take off? I think I heard that before, anybody knows?

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Saku's head went to Savard's elbow. Did Marc raise his elbow up to meet Saku's head? No suspension...why?...wasn't intentional. Recognize!!!
Yes, Savard raised his elbow to meet Koivu's head. Koivu is short, but he isn't 4'5. And he'd have to be in order to simply run into Savard's elbow. Fact is, Savard's elbow was crouched next to his body, then as Koivu went around him the elbow came up. Whether it was intentional or not, only Savard knows.

The fact that there wasn't a suspension means little. There are lots of dirty plays that go unsuspended, including Weight's blatant elbow on Gagne a couple days after the Savard/Koivu incident. In fact, that was a very similar play, only there was a better camera angle and it looked to me like Weight was more blatant about hitting Gagne than Savard was on Koivu. Either way, a more vicious elbow resulted in no suspension.

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Neutral Habs Fans? Are you kidding me?
Oh my, Petro didn't bash anybody with his stick. He got a shot behind the head from Langdon, and got back and made a move as if he would swing his stick at Langdon, but he didn't. Call that a coward move to answer a coward move, but it isn't by no way dirty.
You're assesment of the situation is correct but for one minor detail: Petrosickly got a shot in the back of the head because he tried to take out one of the Habs' (bulis?) knees at the blueline. Directly after this, Langdon took a swat at petro and then melee ensued. If you doubt my account, please see for yourself and remember, this is the first game since savard (purposefully or not) laid an elbow at Saku's head. Classy.
Here is the highlight reel:
http://www.medianor.ca/nono/QuintalPetrovicky.wmv

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Oh my, Petro didn't bash anybody with his stick. He got a shot behind the head from Langdon, and got back and made a move as if he would swing his stick at Langdon, but he didn't. Call that a coward move to answer a coward move, but it isn't by no way dirty.
Langdon's punch to the back of the head was because Petrovicky had been taking runs at Hab players all game long. Then he lowbridged Juneau, and Langdon stalked him but, Petrovicky being the type that doesn't answer the call, refused to turn around. So Langdon palmed him to the back of the head and Petrovicky fell like a bag of rocks.

Petrovicky then did a baseball swing towards Langdon. No, it wasn't meant to connect, but what if it did? With that force, he could have taken out an eye or even killed him had he hit Langdon in the temple. He had no control of the stick and could have hit anyone (including a teammate) on the follow-through on that swing.

I like Petrovicky normally, but that was a classless play that could have resulted in serious injury. He should have been suspended a game or fined for that display. It was disgusting, IMO.



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That's what I like about Habs fans. The intelligence.

As for Savard, since it's been diagnosed as a concussion (which Koivu wasn't), isn't there a minimum number of days that he must take off? I think I heard that before, anybody knows?
Seven days, I believe.

What's with idiots branding a whole group of fans, anyhow? Are you compensating?

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We don't know was Savard's elbow intentionall or not....(I think Koivu himself said he thought it wasn't) but the fact that Savard is out with concussion is a "little" bit suspicious.

Langdon's punch to the back of the head was because Petrovicky had been taking runs at Hab players all game long....

Why punch him to the head? Fight him! Hit him....

The fact is the Habs are using the same dirty methods to get back to the players...

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No one said that the elbow was intentional.

As for Savard having a concussion being suspicious ... no. It was a clean hit by Quintal. Was it done with the intent to hurt ? Most probably. Were habs players constantly hitting Savard when they had the chance ? Yes. Nothing suspicious.

Petrovicky was a cheap coward all night long. And Langdon would have liked nothing better than to whoop his ass. Think Petrovicky wanted to fight Langdon ? Didn't think so.

As for fighting. The habs did fight. I believe there were 3 fights during the game. Hartley's 4th line thugs goaded our dman into fighting with cheap tactics when the game was out of reach.We had Komisarek, Quintal and Sourray out at the same time in the third. It's not the first time I hear about the thrashers using these kind of tactics.

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but the fact that Savard is out with concussion is a "little" bit suspicious.
I think it's more suspicious how you follow all Hab threads, and drop little insinuations here and there when you clearly hadn't watched the play.

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Langdon's punch to the back of the head was because Petrovicky had been taking runs at Hab players all game long....

Why punch him to the head? Fight him! Hit him....

The fact is the Habs are using the same dirty methods to get back to the players...
No. The fact is you're not reading quotes properly and you're taking bits of quotes out of context. Petrovicky was refusing to fight as he had done all game, and the previous game when he took runs at Montreal's top players, then didn't answer the call when Langdon hit the ice. Heck, Souray was ready to drop the gloves with him after Petrovicky ran him on two shifts in a row, and Petrovicky turned his back to him.

I'm not going to defend Langdon on palming him in the back of the head. It wasn't the brightest move you can make. But with a guy like Petrovicky that touches the puck a split second a game (hence, little chance to hit him), who takes runs at your top players, and cheapshots players (lowbridged Juneau seconds earlier), then refuses to answer the bell, there's little else you can do to him. It was a palm to the back of the head, and Petrovicky tried to draw a penalty by falling to the ice hard. It wasn't a huge deal.

The fact of the matter is the Thrashers didn't dress any goons, but they dressed a whole lot of aggravating players. Those aggravators took runs at Habs' top players, and when those Canadiens (or others) responded by wanting to drop the gloves, the Thrasher aggravators turned away. Only Tamer and Exelby looked to fight at all (and Exelby's fight target was none other than Koivu.. what a warrior, eh? I know Exelby can fight, but c'mon.. Koivu? Langdon, Souray, Quintal, and Komisarek were looking for fight partners all night, and he picks Koivu.)

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Did you non-habs fans/accusers not see the link to the video I posted above?!! I mean, it cleary shows the types of plays the petrosickly was performing all night. Langdon was sticking up for the knee-job on JJ and if you can't see that then there is no reasoning with you. Just because you are bruins fans or whathaveyou, doesn't mean that your statements are allowed to be devoid of all fact or reason.

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I think it's more suspicious how you follow all Hab threads, and drop little insinuations here and there when you clearly hadn't watched the play.



No. The fact is you're not reading quotes properly and you're taking bits of quotes out of context. Petrovicky was refusing to fight as he had done all game, and the previous game when he took runs at Montreal's top players, then didn't answer the call when Langdon hit the ice. Heck, Souray was ready to drop the gloves with him after Petrovicky ran him on two shifts in a row, and Petrovicky turned his back to him.

I'm not going to defend Langdon on palming him in the back of the head. It wasn't the brightest move you can make. But with a guy like Petrovicky that touches the puck a split second a game (hence, little chance to hit him), who takes runs at your top players, and cheapshots players (lowbridged Juneau seconds earlier), then refuses to answer the bell, there's little else you can do to him. It was a palm to the back of the head, and Petrovicky tried to draw a penalty by falling to the ice hard. It wasn't a huge deal.

The fact of the matter is the Thrashers didn't dress any goons, but they dressed a whole lot of aggravating players. Those aggravators took runs at Habs' top players, and when those Canadiens (or others) responded by wanting to drop the gloves, the Thrasher aggravators turned away. Only Tamer and Exelby looked to fight at all (and Exelby's fight target was none other than Koivu.. what a warrior, eh? I know Exelby can fight, but c'mon.. Koivu? Langdon, Souray, Quintal, and Komisarek were looking for fight partners all night, and he picks Koivu.)
Oh...pleeeaaaseee...dear habs fans.

1) This is not Habs board.

2) Yes..I wasn't watching too close the second game(when Savard was injured) but I was watching the first and saw that "elbow" on Koivu.
I wasn't going to post anything here but that "Teach the little puke to keep his elbows down" sentense really threw me off. Yeah...that dirty player Savard. Is somebody actually glad that Savard got a concussion?

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And I suppose most of the players in the league are saints? Fact is, this stuff happens all the time. Every game, without exception. I have to ask why has this caused any stir?

I mean, Atlanta lost its top center because of the concussion. Koivu was a bit woozy, but he's fine. The comments almost make it seem like it was the other way around.

And yes, Atlanta does have some cheap players, though their total is about average for teams league-wide. They may be playing a couple more recently, happens when you have five or six regulars out of the lineup. They have normally been a tough team to play against. Now with quite a few injuries, they will probably have to go that route even more. But they certainly aren't the worst at that style, not by a long shot (by worst I mean cheapest).

As for Petro, that's the type of game he plays. He'll hold, slash, etc; basically anything to piss you off. He can be quite cheap at times. Again, I have to ask why would this get to anyone here? Every team has at the very least one player like that, if not many more. You see it on a nightly basis when your team plays; sometimes not as aggravated as this, sometimes much more aggravated than this.

You could say Savard's elbow was intentional, or not. You could say Petrovicky was going after the knees, or it was just a hip-check that the Montreal player tried to avoid thus making it look worse than it actually was. We've never gonna know the real truth on either account, many people are probably too skeptical to believe what any of the players say anyhow. And to say you do one way or the other is pretty ignorant. Only the player knows.

Another pointless debate, how do I get sucked into so many of these? Oh well...

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Oh...pleeeaaaseee...dear habs fans.

1) This is not Habs board.
Whoever said it was?

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2) Yes..I wasn't watching too close the second game(when Savard was injured) but I was watching the first and saw that "elbow" on Koivu.
I wasn't going to post anything here but that "Teach the little puke to keep his elbows down" sentense really threw me off. Yeah...that dirty player Savard. Is somebody actually glad that Savard got a concussion?
Savard's already been suspended once this season, so I don't see why it's difficult to believe he might be a dirty player on occasion.

I'm never glad when someone is concussed. That's a serious injury which the league should do its best to prevent entirely. But some players are less deserving of concussions than others. Example: I'd feel worse seeing a class act like Ron Francis go down with a concussion than a Bryan Marchment who's done more than his fair share of cheapshots throughout his career.

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Didn't Savard have a history of concussions in junior? Or am I thinking of someone else?

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But with a guy like Petrovicky that touches the puck a split second a game (hence, little chance to hit him), who takes runs at your top players, and cheapshots players (lowbridged Juneau seconds earlier), then refuses to answer the bell, there's little else you can do to him.
Petrovicky has more goals than any Montreal player. Just thought I'd add that in.

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Didn't Savard have a history of concussions in junior? Or am I thinking of someone else?
That was Stefan who had a couple bad ones before he got drafted, was a big question mark about him. He's had injuries in his brief career but nothing to do with concussions.

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