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Are you/do you think you will be happy with the Briere signing?

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07-05-2013, 08:08 PM
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Simple yes or no question for you guys...not really looking for a debate here you guys can keep that in the Briere thread so this doesn't get locked because i want to see enough votes here, please and thank you!

Edit: to clear up confusion 'do you think you will be happy' doesn't necessarily relate to Briere's future play...I also meant it meaning, if you think DD or Gio are on their way out based on Briere's signing then will you be happy?
I stayed away from this topic until now because my visceral reaction was: Blech.

I don't really know what to make of it. Maybe it's just to replace Ryder as a scoring specialist. In that case, I'm not sure there's much loss or gain. Seems like a wash overall. Yes, smaller and less durable, but craftier and more versatile, more of a playoff performer, and about the same in dollars (adjusted for taxes) and term as re-signing Ryder.

I guess I'm still left wondering if this acquisition is to give Bergevin a parachute to make other moves. Just replacing Ryder with Briere is okay enough. Not great, but whatever. But Briere can be a centre. That's where it gets hard to divine what Bergevin might be thinking about Plekanec, Eller, Galchenyuk and Desharnais. None of those guys really belong on the wing.

Wait and see. Staying neutral for now.

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07-05-2013, 08:17 PM
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I stayed away from this topic until now because my visceral reaction was: Blech.

I don't really know what to make of it. Maybe it's just to replace Ryder as a scoring specialist. In that case, I'm not sure there's much loss or gain. Seems like a wash overall. Yes, smaller and less durable, but craftier and more versatile, more of a playoff performer, and about the same in dollars (adjusted for taxes) and term as re-signing Ryder.

I guess I'm still left wondering if this acquisition is to give Bergevin a parachute to make other moves. Just replacing Ryder with Briere is okay enough. Not great, but whatever. But Briere can be a centre. That's where it gets hard to divine what Bergevin might be thinking about Plekanec, Eller, Galchenyuk and Desharnais. None of those guys really belong on the wing.

Wait and see. Staying neutral for now.
I'm thinking the same thing. I can see a trade now. There are always rumors, but I'm of the wait and see camp as well

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07-05-2013, 08:18 PM
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I stayed away from this topic until now because my visceral reaction was: Blech.

I don't really know what to make of it. Maybe it's just to replace Ryder as a scoring specialist. In that case, I'm not sure there's much loss or gain. Seems like a wash overall. Yes, smaller and less durable, but craftier and more versatile, more of a playoff performer, and about the same in dollars (adjusted for taxes) and term as re-signing Ryder.

I guess I'm still left wondering if this acquisition is to give Bergevin a parachute to make other moves. Just replacing Ryder with Briere is okay enough. Not great, but whatever. But Briere can be a centre. That's where it gets hard to divine what Bergevin might be thinking about Plekanec, Eller, Galchenyuk and Desharnais. None of those guys really belong on the wing.

Wait and see. Staying neutral for now.
I'm ok with Eller on the wing if it is on one of the top two lines.

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07-05-2013, 08:20 PM
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Losing out on Vinny was inexcusable. Briere signing reeks of desperation.

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07-05-2013, 08:20 PM
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Micheal Ryder is a better player in the same role, signed for the same amount of years for less money and is a way smaller aging risk.

Habs were better of with what they already had.
Ryder is not better.

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07-05-2013, 08:22 PM
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I said no because he fills absolutely no need whatsoever.

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I'm ok with Eller on the wing if it is on one of the top two lines.
That's a tough one for me. I thought he really flourished at centre, and I think it's in part because his focus on defensive responsibilities that come with being a centre generated good things. So, in turn, that took pressure off of him to play a skilled game -- which he can, in terms of physical tools, but it seems to come more easily to him in-the-flow-of-the-game after he's carried out his defensive duties, whether on the backcheck in the neutral zone or with an unsexy but super-effective play that gets the puck from the defensive zone to an open winger in the neutral zone.

I'm a believer in Eller at centre. From my keyboard, I just see him as a guy who makes better use of his tools when he's engaged in three zones, with the responsibilities that come from being a tough match-up centre. It just seems to allow him to find offence naturally rather than force and overthink it, especially when's paired with someone as gifted as Galchenyuk or even A. Kostitsyn, during that brief experiment.

While I also think Galchenyuk is destined to be a centre, in contrast he is naturally skilled enough to play effectively on the wing. He can generate offence off of his stick wherever he's lined up. I don't think Eller has that latent ability.

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Ryder is not better.
Yes he is.

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No hes not.
I'll just wait until talks to goalposts comes in with proof. One of my favorite past times.

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We basically traded Ryder for Briere, guys. That's all.

I'd rather have Ryder in the regular season. I'd rather have Briere in the playoffs. It's pretty much a wash for me between these two guys. I don't think Ryder wanted to come back anyway.

While Boston and Ottawa made moves to drastically improve their teams in the here and now and "go for it", we've decided to do the bare minimum to stay competitive while building for the future. We're not tanking, but we're not going whole-hog into free agency and trading futures-for-stars in their primes either.

Considering what was available this summer in free agency, I'm fairly comfortable with MB's approach here. The only thing I'm iffy on is the Ryan deal - I'm pretty sure MB could have matched/beat that if he had wanted to. But oh well.

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We basically traded Ryder for Briere, guys. That's all.

I'd rather have Ryder in the regular season. I'd rather have Briere in the playoffs. It's pretty much a wash for me between these two guys. I don't think Ryder wanted to come back anyway.

While Boston and Ottawa made moves to drastically improve their teams in the here and now and "go for it", we've decided to do the bare minimum to stay competitive while building for the future. We're not tanking, but we're not going whole-hog into free agency and trading futures-for-stars in their primes either.

Considering what was available this summer in free agency, I'm fairly comfortable with MB's approach here. The only thing I'm iffy on is the Ryan deal - I'm pretty sure MB could have matched/beat that if he had wanted to. But oh well.
Briere in the playoffs without backup like hulks like Pronger protecting him is going to be sad to watch.

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07-05-2013, 09:09 PM
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Briere in the playoffs without backup like hulks like Pronger protecting him is going to be sad to watch.
What are you talking about? We've got George ****ing Parros now!

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Briere in the playoffs without backup like hulks like Pronger protecting him is going to be sad to watch.
Seems to have done fine the last 2 playoffs without Pronger. You might want to brush up on his stats with him and without him before spewing hatred.

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Seems to have done fine the last 2 playoffs without Pronger. You might want to brush up on his stats with him and without him before spewing hatred.
Flyers have had huge teams man. Hartnell, Coburn, Simmonds, Pronger, Richards... tons of big guys over there.

We have Gallagher, Gionta, Plecs, DD...
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What are you talking about? We've got George ****ing Parros now!
True.

Maybe we can play him with DD and Briere.

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No hes not.
Last two seasons

Ryder:
128 GP 97 pts 0.76 pts/gm

Briere:
104 GP 65 pts 0.625 pts/gm

The posters who are saying he is a big playoff performer ignore the fact the he will be 36 years old at the start of next season... he's very unlikely able to perform like he did 3-4 years ago.


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Cap space is only valuable if used. It's quite clear that Bergevin decided to he smart on the UFA market thus signed nobody. Briere is a Bruins killer, a playoff performer and a deadly sniper. What's not to like?

I will admit he was one of my hated players but I would rather have him on my side.

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Last two seasons

Ryder:
128 GP 97 pts 0.76 pts/gm

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104 GP 65 pts 0.625 pts/gm

The posters who are saying he is a big playoff performer ignore the fact the he will be 36 years old at the start of next season... he's very unlikely able to perform like he did 3-4 years ago.
How about the way he performed the last time the flyers made the playoffs. 11 games, 13 point, this was also not 4 years ago.

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Flyers have had huge teams man. Hartnell, Coburn, Simmonds, Pronger, Richards... tons of big guys over there.

We have Gallagher, Gionta, Plecs, DD...

True.

Maybe we can play him with DD and Briere.
Richards is 5'11 lol

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Richards is 5'11 lol
And DD is five foot four...

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How about the way he performed the last time the flyers made the playoffs. 11 games, 13 point, this was also not 4 years ago.
This was against marc andre fleury.

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By the way when Gomez was acquired, people were excited by the misleading statistic that he was point per game in the playoffs in his career.

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By the way when Gomez was acquired, people were excited by the misleading statistic that he was point per game in the playoffs in his career.
Pretty sure only 5-6 blind homers were defending the Gomez deal.

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By the way when Gomez was acquired, people were excited by the misleading statistic that he was point per game in the playoffs in his career.
Briere is not signed to the same contract Gomez was at the time. They also do not have to follow the same career paths.

- You mentioned Gomez being acquired and people excited he was point per game in the playoffs. 114 games, 81 points before he joined MTL. At 0.71 points per game I think you picked the perfect word "misleading".

- You mentioned "fluery" as the reason for that year I mentioned, he played 6 games vs him, 8 points. He had 5 games against New Jersey, 5 points.

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