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07-06-2013, 05:35 PM
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He was awesome up until 2011 and pretty bad since then.

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07-06-2013, 05:38 PM
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Yeah hes a good GM for 29 other teams in the league.

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07-06-2013, 05:42 PM
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An absolutely terrible GM that simply doesn't have the right attitude to lead / put together a winning squad.

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07-06-2013, 06:15 PM
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This is kind of ridiculous, as you're listing most things that were fully out of his control as bads.
I cant let Gillis off the hook for decisions that turned out to be bad, and I cant see why anyone else would.

Its his job to know those kinds of things, otherwise any schmuck could do his job.

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07-06-2013, 06:24 PM
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This is kind of ridiculous, as you're listing most things that were fully out of his control as bads.
Was gunna reply in depth, then you did it perfectly so thank you.

And I agree most MG haters list things out of his control as bads, a bit ridiculous.

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07-06-2013, 06:25 PM
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only in Vancouver he's considered a good GM
Have you seen our board? The majority opinion is he's done this year unless we actually do something in the playoffs. Overall, I would cite him good who has been a steady and seemingly consistent decline the past few seasons. If Luongo does opt to walk on us, Gillis should be fired immediately for that colossal misplace of judgment.

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07-06-2013, 07:12 PM
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Can't believe this is still going on? So let me see;

08/09 - 3rd in the Western Conf 100pts.
09/10 - 3rd in the Western Conf 103 pts.
10/11 - 1st in the Western Conf 117 pts.
11/12 - 1st in the Western Conf 111 pts.
12/13 - 3rd in the Western Conf 59 pts.

Do I think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, no, but name another GM thats put his team in the top three in their Conference every year on the job? I think you people should be discussing someone that's more deserving of this topic.

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07-06-2013, 07:51 PM
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An absolutely terrible GM that simply doesn't have the right attitude to lead / put together a winning squad.


Yet he has the most wins in the NHL since being brought on as a rookie GM. Within 1 win of a Stanley cup too.

Wake me up when his organization stops being elite.

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07-06-2013, 09:00 PM
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He's not good, but it's not absolutely incompetent either. So he's an okay.. GM.

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07-06-2013, 10:11 PM
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An absolutely terrible GM that simply doesn't have the right attitude to lead / put together a winning squad.
How about you post a reason?

I don't like Mike Gillis but damn anyone who bashes my GM

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Worst GM in the league by far.

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07-06-2013, 10:21 PM
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Yet he has the most wins in the NHL since being brought on as a rookie GM. Within 1 win of a Stanley cup too.

Wake me up when his organization stops being elite.
Oh yeahhhhhhhh that guy who brought in Henrik, Daniel, Kesler, Burrows, Vaigneault, Luongo, Edler, Bieksa and... Wait a second.... He didn't do all of that now did he....

As the above poster stated, he's got just an awful attitude. He seems to have this perception that he is above every one else, and that the Canucks are above every one else and I don't understand it. It's as if he is more concerned with his own pride than the actual success of the team

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07-06-2013, 10:30 PM
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As the above poster stated, he's got just an awful attitude. He seems to have this perception that he is above every one else, and that the Canucks are above every one else and I don't understand it. It's as if he is more concerned with his own pride than the actual success of the team
LOL speaking about perceptions...

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07-07-2013, 12:51 AM
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What did MG do to put his team that high? The main argument is that the core was their and already progressing up to their prime. Erhoff helped a lot, but the main guys were their already.

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LOL speaking about perceptions...
Not exactly sure I know what you mean? Nor do I see anything in my post that may have suggested I'm above everyone else so I don't really get what it is you're trying to say

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07-07-2013, 01:02 AM
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Worst GM in the league by far.
Hows clarkson and bozak working for ya

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07-07-2013, 01:17 AM
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He's bad at trades. We've lost almost every trade he's made so far with some tbd. He has however been able to sign free agents on good contracts.

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07-07-2013, 01:49 AM
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Not exactly sure I know what you mean? Nor do I see anything in my post that may have suggested I'm above everyone else so I don't really get what it is you're trying to say
Clearly points out that you yourself just unloads a heap of perceptions without any foundation.

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07-07-2013, 11:32 AM
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What did MG do to put his team that high? The main argument is that the core was their and already progressing up to their prime. Erhoff helped a lot, but the main guys were their already.
The 2 best dmen on the team were brought in by Gillis. The Canucks are a bubble playoff team without their 2 defensive rocks in Hamhuis and Garrison.

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07-07-2013, 11:35 AM
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Hows clarkson and bozak working for ya
Really well, we are tired for first in the NHL.


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07-07-2013, 11:44 AM
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MG = GM backwards, so based on my theory, he is the opposite of a GM so therefore he can not be a GM. at least a good one.

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07-07-2013, 11:50 AM
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Can't believe this is still going on? So let me see;

08/09 - 3rd in the Western Conf 100pts.
09/10 - 3rd in the Western Conf 103 pts.
10/11 - 1st in the Western Conf 117 pts.
11/12 - 1st in the Western Conf 111 pts.
12/13 - 3rd in the Western Conf 59 pts.

Do I think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, no, but name another GM thats put his team in the top three in their Conference every year on the job? I think you people should be discussing someone that's more deserving of this topic.
I think they main reason you will find people calling Gillis bad is because they feel he isn't responsible for the Canucks doing that well. So showing them those numbers doesn't prove them wrong.

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07-07-2013, 11:57 AM
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whoa whoa, reason and logic are forbidden in this thread

most (not all) vancouver fans simply mimic our idiotic journalists' opinions rather than think for themselves. Our journalist dont like gillis, because he calls them out for asking stupid questions, and he is arrogant. Then there are the Toronto fans ITT who arent even worth mentioning.

in fact, he is one of the best GMs in the NHL

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Can't believe this is still going on? So let me see;

08/09 - 3rd in the Western Conf 100pts.
09/10 - 3rd in the Western Conf 103 pts.
10/11 - 1st in the Western Conf 117 pts.
11/12 - 1st in the Western Conf 111 pts.
12/13 - 3rd in the Western Conf 59 pts.

Do I think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, no, but name another GM thats put his team in the top three in their Conference every year on the job? I think you people should be discussing someone that's more deserving of this topic.

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07-07-2013, 12:04 PM
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I think they main reason you will find people calling Gillis bad is because they feel he isn't responsible for the Canucks doing that well. So showing them those numbers doesn't prove them wrong.
Very true. They will claim them for his predecessors while ignoring the glaring "Out of Playoffs" they sported while in Vancouver and their new team.

No GM is perfect, but most of what Gillis bashers attack him for are revisionist hindsight on moves perceived to be good at the time they were made. There are legit issues, but no one is perfect.

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07-07-2013, 12:05 PM
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I think they main reason you will find people calling Gillis bad is because they feel he isn't responsible for the Canucks doing that well. So showing them those numbers doesn't prove them wrong.
Every single contract on the team was signed by Mike Gillis. He is responsible for every single player on the team, as he's decided who to keep, who to let walk and how much to pay players to retain them.

Is Nonis partly responsible for the Luongo contract because he acquired him?

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