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07-07-2013, 09:03 AM
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Boyle is also making a bit of money even though he's projected to be on the fourth line and we need the cap space. Plus, I really want to see what Haley can do on the fourth line with Dorsett and Moore.
More moaning over half a mil, you really think that half a mil is going to matter in any of these negotiations to bring a guy in?


Btw, Dorsett makes the same as Boyle, and he's a 4th liner too

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07-07-2013, 09:31 AM
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whaddya want for nothing ? Rubber biscuit ?
Not too many here who are going to get that one.

Love this signing. We needed cheap useful forwards, and we got two of them.

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Given our cap constraints, I think it's a very good signing. He adds some scoring depth to our bottom six which we lacked last year. He's playing for a contract and will hopefully go above and beyond to earn himself a good one. If it doesn't work out, he can take off. No harm/no foul.

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07-07-2013, 11:12 AM
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this signing probably means the end to Zucc

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this signing probably means the end to Zucc
Or so says Larry brooks in his latest drama queen speculation about zomg how are we going to sign all the rfas

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Or so says Larry brooks in his latest drama queen speculation about zomg how are we going to sign all the rfas
Brooks is really unrestrained now that Torts is gone

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This is a solid signing along with Dominic Moore. Improving the bottom six was MUCH needed. And I see there are a lot of naysayers...as usual. According to AV, he said that they wanted to give some of the younger folks a shot at the roster this year. So this is perfect.
Boston beat our sorry ***** with their bottom 6 so you're correct, the bottom 6 is much more critical than zero point mouth breathers.

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I love this move. Last year fans complain about no depth after the Nash trade. Now there's too many depth moves. I'll always be amazed by fan reaction. This is awesome.

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Watching some highlights of Pouliot, he literally scored all of his goals this season from below the hashmarks. He goes to the front of the net and he can finish.

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Well, that's why you have to develop your own bottom 6 instead of constantly relying on FA. Like Chicago with Shaw, Bickell, Kruger, Saad (for the playoffs anyway). And I think Toronto's expecting more than 35 points from Clarkson, I just don't think they'll get much more than that.

I'd want someone more physical/defensive minded for the bottom 6, right. But that's not to say that I want an offensive black hole like Powe. Have to find balance.
When you have Toews, Sharp, Kane and Hossa making up 4 of your Top 6 you can allow your 2nd and 5th round picks to round out your bottom 6 instead of being a major part of your Top 6.

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whaddya want for nothing ? Rubber biscuit ?
Nice Blues Brothers reference

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Watching some highlights of Pouliot, he literally scored all of his goals this season from below the hashmarks. He goes to the front of the net and he can finish.
Well, he was top F back in 2005 when drafted 4th overall. He can play anywhere.

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Great depth signing. I love that we're addressing the glaring needs from last year.

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Was pretty excited watching his highlight video until the Redden fight.

Seriously though. Awesome pickup and breakout candidate. Guy is a good player and stat line suggests he's only recently found stability in NHL and is due for a point filled, full season.

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07-09-2013, 01:26 AM
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I'm hoping he has a Pascal Dupuis like breakout year. I know that sounds silly but sometimes people don't figure it out until their 26-28 in the NHL (Moulson, Dupuis, Briere, St. Louis, Dave Gagner, etc) and they need to be in the right situation.

With Cally and Hagelin out, he'll get more playing time and maybe even some PP time. Maybe he clicks with Stepan or him and Moore pick up right where they left off.

If it works, he can add to the depth.

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07-26-2013, 12:20 AM
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I'm hoping he has a Pascal Dupuis like breakout year. I know that sounds silly but sometimes people don't figure it out until their 26-28 in the NHL (Moulson, Dupuis, Briere, St. Louis, Dave Gagner, etc) and they need to be in the right situation.

With Cally and Hagelin out, he'll get more playing time and maybe even some PP time. Maybe he clicks with Stepan or him and Moore pick up right where they left off.

If it works, he can add to the depth.

he can fight... if he can score 15 goals 30 pts ill be happy while throwing some hits and adding some grit...








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This guy is a savage, he's gonna be good.

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07-26-2013, 05:44 AM
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I guess we will find out his hidden defect soon enough, because Benoit Pouliot is a fantastic player on paper.

2010-11 Montreal Canadiens:

2nd among forwards in Corsi Rel. Playing slightly below average opposition with average linemates. Zone starts close to 50-50.

1st among forwards in ES scoring (P/60) with 2.10. Slightly low On-ice Sh% (7.71%), and average Sh% (10.61%). Nothing unsustainable.

2011-12 Boston Bruins:

6th among forwards in Corsi Rel. Playing slightly above average competition with poor linemates. Zone starts were biased toward the offensive zone.

8th among forwards in ES scoring (2.08 P/60) on a dominant ES team. Both on-ice (10.02%) and individual Sh% (14.43%) were high.

2012-13 Tampa Bay Lightning:

2nd among forwards in Corsi Rel. Playing slightly above average competition with slightly below average linemates. Zone starts close to 50-50.

His scoring stats are different between behindthenet.ca and hockeyanalysis.com, so I'll present them both:

BHN - 3rd in ES scoring (2.49 P/60) behind St. Louis and Stamkos.

HA - 2nd in ES scoring (2.36 P/60) behind only St. Louis.

High On-ice shooting percentages (12.32%), but not when compared to the rest of the team and Tampa has been a high percentage scoring team for years.

His individual Sh% was also slightly high (13.46%) but in line with most of his teammates'.


Conclusion:

Pouliot has been a good possession player that has been scoring at an almost elite level at ES (39th in the league among forwards over the past 3 seasons) despite playing in a limited role. While not playing against top competition, he has hardly been sheltered.

Teams constantly giving up on him is a definite red flag, but he seems to have big breakout potential.

Prediction:

Pouliot will find himself on a new team for the 2014-15 season. But not due to a bad year, but rather that he priced himself out of the Rangers' budget.

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07-26-2013, 08:44 AM
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Pouliot strikes me as a very good pickup. Some physicality but beating up on Krejci does not make you a fighter.

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07-26-2013, 08:50 AM
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I guess we will find out his hidden defect soon enough, because Benoit Pouliot is a fantastic player on paper.

2010-11 Montreal Canadiens:

2nd among forwards in Corsi Rel. Playing slightly below average opposition with average linemates. Zone starts close to 50-50.

1st among forwards in ES scoring (P/60) with 2.10. Slightly low On-ice Sh% (7.71%), and average Sh% (10.61%). Nothing unsustainable.

2011-12 Boston Bruins:

6th among forwards in Corsi Rel. Playing slightly above average competition with poor linemates. Zone starts were biased toward the offensive zone.

8th among forwards in ES scoring (2.08 P/60) on a dominant ES team. Both on-ice (10.02%) and individual Sh% (14.43%) were high.

2012-13 Tampa Bay Lightning:

2nd among forwards in Corsi Rel. Playing slightly above average competition with slightly below average linemates. Zone starts close to 50-50.

His scoring stats are different between behindthenet.ca and hockeyanalysis.com, so I'll present them both:

BHN - 3rd in ES scoring (2.49 P/60) behind St. Louis and Stamkos.

HA - 2nd in ES scoring (2.36 P/60) behind only St. Louis.

High On-ice shooting percentages (12.32%), but not when compared to the rest of the team and Tampa has been a high percentage scoring team for years.

His individual Sh% was also slightly high (13.46%) but in line with most of his teammates'.


Conclusion:

Pouliot has been a good possession player that has been scoring at an almost elite level at ES (39th in the league among forwards over the past 3 seasons) despite playing in a limited role. While not playing against top competition, he has hardly been sheltered.

Teams constantly giving up on him is a definite red flag, but he seems to have big breakout potential.

Prediction:

Pouliot will find himself on a new team for the 2014-15 season. But not due to a bad year, but rather that he priced himself out of the Rangers' budget.
His defect is that he does not consistently play physical like his size, and game should call for. Therefore he will bounce around the line-up. Still a very good signing.

The fact that he and Moore have played together is a plus (09-10). Both have a distinct edge to their game when playing well and skate well.

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07-26-2013, 09:29 AM
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Pouliot strikes me as a very good pickup. Some physicality but beating up on Krejci does not make you a fighter.
He's more of an agitator.

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07-26-2013, 10:11 AM
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Teams don't qualify Pouliot. They don't want to make him eligible for salary arbitration. Its happened a few times to him.

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It'd certainly be nice if he could find that next level in his game that most thought was there when he was drafted, but if we can get 35 points out of him I'd be really happy with that.

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it's fun to see all the players drafted after Pouliot in the '05 draft.

He's definitely got some skill based on the highlight clips that others have posted. Looking forward to watching him and D. Moore chip-in some much needed contributions on the third line.

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Yeah, you're right. Youtube scouting will obviously tell you everything you need to know about a player.
You omitted Malik's goal.

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