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07-07-2013, 07:07 PM
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Twitter hackers? Obviously bitter Leafs fans.
Why bitter? Because they could have had him? Kessel is much more valuable and has a better personality than Seguin, who has done nothing in this league to warrant being picked 2nd overall

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Why bitter? Because they could have had him? Kessel is much more valuable and has a better personality than Seguin, who has done nothing in this league to warrant being picked 2nd overall
If by better you mean none whatsoever is better than whatever Seguin has then OK.

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i wouldnt mind Corvo for a year. he would help the PP. he is still good at that at his age.. solid signing for anyone that gets him.
I mentioned this either earlier in this thread or in another one, but corvo is way too inconsistent and really hasn't been that good for a while now to think he will make a difference on the pp. 8 pp points in 40 games last season, 9 in 75 games the season before that, In the last 4 seasons he hit double digits in PP points once. In comparision Subban led dman with 19 PPA, Kronwall had 14.
I don't know why people continue to think he would help the PP. It reminds me of when people thought McCabe would help the PP.

He is 36 yo, a career -3 and has been on the wrong side of +/- for 6 of the past 7 seasons.



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If by better you mean none whatsoever is better than whatever Seguin has then OK.
Well, let's just say he's more well-behaved and mannered.

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07-07-2013, 08:55 PM
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Well, let's just say he's more well-behaved and mannered.
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Why bitter? Because they could have had him? Kessel is much more valuable and has a better personality than Seguin, who has done nothing in this league to warrant being picked 2nd overall
Kessel had a lot of personality issues when he first came into the league as well, in case you don't recall.

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It's amazing to me how many people in the media and elsewhere can get so worked up over a damn tweet. Always ready to get up in arms over something.

Still, stupid. But aren't there bigger things for everyone to focus on?
I'm sick of these faux-outraged people as well. And I don't think it's stupid, it's just a person trying to make a joke and in the process calling himself what he's supposedly "phobic" about. It's all so stupid.

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07-07-2013, 10:16 PM
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Why bitter? Because they could have had him? Kessel is much more valuable and has a better personality than Seguin, who has done nothing in this league to warrant being picked 2nd overall
His rookie year he didn't do much, but had a 'kreider-like' playoff that resulted in a ring. Second year he put up solid numbers for a sophmore and in this shorten season he played well.

Though not superstar numbers, he has been very good and is only 21. It's not like Taylor Hall is leaps and bounds better than him, or anybody in the 2010 draft for that matter. So I think he totally warrants being picked 2nd overall.

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07-07-2013, 10:57 PM
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His rookie year he didn't do much, but had a 'kreider-like' playoff that resulted in a ring. Second year he put up solid numbers for a sophmore and in this shorten season he played well.

Though not superstar numbers, he has been very good and is only 21. It's not like Taylor Hall is leaps and bounds better than him, or anybody in the 2010 draft for that matter. So I think he totally warrants being picked 2nd overall.
Considering Taylor Hall was the 2nd leading scorer in the West behind Patrick Kane, was on pace for shattering 90 points and outproduced Seguin by 18 pts in 3 less games played, I'd say he was leaps and bounds better than Seguin last season. He's always been the best player in the draft IMO.

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07-08-2013, 09:45 AM
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Ryan trade is good for Ottawa until his contract expires in two years and he heads to Philadephia. Then those young players in Anaheim will look very, very good.

As for Seguin, he scored 29 goals two years ago. It would seem to me that he still has a chance to become a franchise player. 21 year olds like that don't come around that often. Some of the prospects Boston got were available because thery were not panning out quite like advertised.

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So he reportedly showed up in the same clothes three days straight during the Toronto series, after being out late partying.

Kane gets a lot of **** for being a tool during the off season, but at least it's during the off season.

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Ryan trade is good for Ottawa until his contract expires in two years and he heads to Philadephia. Then those young players in Anaheim will look very, very good.

As for Seguin, he scored 29 goals two years ago. It would seem to me that he still has a chance to become a franchise player. 21 year olds like that don't come around that often. Some of the prospects Boston got were available because thery were not panning out quite like advertised.
Agreed. I think Seguin is a tool, but he's going to be a very good/great player in the league and the Stars got the better deal.

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07-08-2013, 02:27 PM
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That's quite the statement.
Is Rask asking for the moon and the stars???

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Kelly, OK. But Marchand? Why?

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So he reportedly showed up in the same clothes three days straight during the Toronto series, after being out late partying.

Kane gets a lot of **** for being a tool during the off season, but at least it's during the off season.
If that's true (and who really knows) he deserves any flack he is getting for that. I am all about him being a 21 y/o kid wanting to have fun, and understand not being a robotic "consummate professional" at that age. But if you can't get your act together during the SC playoffs to help your team win, that's on you.

Same way I felt about Radulov/Kostitsyn during their supposed incidents. Have fun. You're humans. But lock it down and get it under control when you're trying to chase a Cup.

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Kelly and Marchand are no where near on the same level. Kelly would go for sure if Boston had to choose.

I'd offer quite a bit for Marshrat if he's available.

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would love Marchand on this team. 1rst line LWer.

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What would Boston be looking for? Cap space, ie: prospects/picks? I'd love RatFace on this team.

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The guy who tweeted it is saying it may have to do with the same reasons Seguin was traded(contract and maturity). The B's better get a handle of these young partiers they employ. jeez. I'm sure it's 100% speculation, Broons' fans are seemingly annoyed at the notion of Marchand being traded.

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What would Boston be looking for? Cap space, ie: prospects/picks? I'd love RatFace on this team.
Kreider++ would be what the Bruins will ask for IMO.

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Little o' this/ little o' that. RT @ZappaRivard: @globekpd Would Marchand trade be bcz of Seguin like Maturity issues or contract $$$$?

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Kreider++ would be what the Bruins will ask for IMO.
Still an easy yes.

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Still an easy yes.
same here but don't tell that to the collective kreider fans .

I wanted to trade Kreider for Marchand 2 seasons ago. Marchand is a special player with much more natural talent and vision for the game.

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same here but don't tell that to the collective kreider fans .

I wanted to trade Kreider for Marchand 2 seasons ago. Marchand is a special player with much more natural talent and vision for the game.

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Even when Kreider was thought of very highly and Marchand didn't fully break out, I remember a poll in the B's board. None of them wanted a trade 1 for 1.

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