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Prospect Poll: NYR Prospect #8

View Poll Results: Who is our #8 prospect?
D Sam Noreau 2 1.75%
LW Marek Hrivik 37 32.46%
LW Cristoval Nieves 44 38.60%
G Cam Talbot 0 0%
LW Andrew Yogan 0 0%
C Michael St. Croix 31 27.19%
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07-06-2013, 09:20 PM
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Pretty simple. Skjei already put on 10 pounds of muscle while Nieves did absolutely nothing in the off-season to get strong. I like Nieves but he failed miserably in the off-season to get in better shape. Kristo over Skjei is laughable.
Where did you read Boo failed to gain weight? And gaining weight is not necessarily the same as getting in better shape.

Kristo is further developed and a very good prospect in his own right. Some people may value that more than pure upside. They were picked less than 30 spots apart overall. I wouldn't rank Kristo over Skjei, but it's not laughable. Different people use different criteria in ranking prospects.

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Pretty simple. Skjei already put on 10 pounds of muscle while Nieves did absolutely nothing in the off-season to get strong. I like Nieves but he failed miserably in the off-season to get in better shape. Kristo over Skjei is laughable.
Its really not.

Kristo has done a HELL of a lot more at the NCAA level than Skjei. Yes Skjei only played 1 season so far but it was underwhelming for a 1st rounder. Kristo was also very impressive in the WJCs, while Skjei failed to make the team this year.

Skjei is a much bigger project and till I see some real development, i'd vote Kristo before him.

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Where did you read Boo failed to gain weight? And gaining weight is not necessarily the same as getting in better shape.

Kristo is further developed and a very good prospect in his own right. Some people may value that more than pure upside. They were picked less than 30 spots apart overall. I wouldn't rank Kristo over Skjei, but it's not laughable. Different people use different criteria in ranking prospects.
I'm actually pretty sure I read a tweet about him gaining 10 pounds of muscle. It might have been in the development camp thread.

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Pretty simple. Skjei already put on 10 pounds of muscle while Nieves did absolutely nothing in the off-season to get strong. I like Nieves but he failed miserably in the off-season to get in better shape. Kristo over Skjei is laughable.
This is a total misunderstanding of weight/muscle gain.

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07-07-2013, 01:22 AM
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MSC. Buchnevich. It is paying off typing Russian's last name time and again.

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Boo. Pick Buchenvich.

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Fogarty is way underrated around these parts. Maybe it speaks to our prospect depth, but not seeing a single person add him is discouraging.

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Hrivik again. First line AHLer in his rookie season. Good all-around player.

Add Buch. Supposedly he slipped because he's Russian, so hopefully he has more talent than most third rounders.
Im thinking Hrvnik too, from what I hear in the prospect camp, he's tearing it up and looks like a pro.

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Went with Boo. Hrivik is next.

Adding Buchnevich as he has the most talent out of the rest of the prospect pool. About Fogarty, people did not like the BCHL and then going to college and being a 4th liner. Should improve this season, but he hasn't done anything to warrant being rated this high. I'm expecting the next round to be very interesting between Hrivik and MSC. Can easily see another tie-breaker round. The rangers pool looks to be about 15-18 deep in terms of talent that can become possible NHL players. Much better than last poll done.

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Gotta go with Boo. Love his upside. All him, Diguiseppe, and Trouba did was carry that Michigan team all year.

And that was as a skinny freshman and his first time playing against that level of competition. If he can do that now, it should get better for him as his body matures.

Patience.

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I voted Hrivik. He's a huge difference maker at the AHL level and I think his skill will translate to the NHL.

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Hrvik slightly over MSC.

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Fogarty is way underrated around these parts. Maybe it speaks to our prospect depth, but not seeing a single person add him is discouraging.
His play has not yet warranted placement in the poll unless we are adding him based solely on draft position and perceived potential.

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His play has not yet warranted placement in the poll unless we are adding him based solely on draft position and perceived potential.
Yeah, I like Fogarty and think he has some real upside. We haven't really seen the production though. There are reasons for that, sure, but I need to see something more before I move him up my list. This will be a big season for him in terms of prospect status. I think he either establishes himself as a real two-way threat, or we pretty much write him off.

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His play has not yet warranted placement in the poll unless we are adding him based solely on draft position and perceived potential.
I'm just saying, at this rate he's not going to even crack the top 15, and I think he should be in there. Center, good size, played a great defensive role at UND in his freshman year, and will surely be given a bigger role next season. I suspect soon more people around here will be talking about him. Very cool that he and Tambellini will be playing together for next season and beyond

Maybe I'm overrating him, who knows, but I suspect he'll turn some heads in his sophomore year.

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I'm just saying, at this rate he's not going to even crack the top 15, and I think he should be in there. Center, good size, played a great defensive role at UND in his freshman year, and will surely be given a bigger role next season. I suspect soon more people around here will be talking about him. Very cool that he and Tambellini will be playing together for next season and beyond

Maybe I'm overrating him, who knows, but I suspect he'll turn some heads in his sophomore year.
I thought Tambellini is playing at UND (North Dakota)?

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Hrivik, add Buch. I don't think his chances are great, but if he works out he is a 1st line forward talent.

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Yeah, I like Fogarty and think he has some real upside. We haven't really seen the production though. There are reasons for that, sure, but I need to see something more before I move him up my list. This will be a big season for him in terms of prospect status. I think he either establishes himself as a real two-way threat, or we pretty much write him off.
Yep. If he doesn't put up at least 20 points this season I begin to write off his offensive potential.

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Went with Boo although IMO him, MSC and Hrivik are close. Add Allen.

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I thought Tambellini is playing at UND (North Dakota)?


epic fail on my part. You're 100% correct. My brain went UND and UND and got excited without thinking

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I went with Hrivik. I fully acknowledge that St Croix's and Nieves' ceilings are higher, but right now, with Hagelin and Callahan probably out of the lineup when the next season starts, I fully expect Hrivik to get a good look with the big club.

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