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My favorite thing to do in Arlington these days is jog. Head away from the areas that have recently become overpriced (where I live) and there are some beautiful areas that have always been overpriced because the houses are gorgeous. Mostly my fiancee and I stay home and wish we have a couple million bucks to blow on one of those.

Philly is loads better if you like historic homes. There are gems in every neighborhood. Because, again, the city had a lot of permanent residents and a lot of solid middle and upper class housing a long, long time ago. Built out of brick and stone, rather than sheet rock and plywood, many of those old buildings are still in great shape (or can be with some fixing up).

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I watched the Broad Street Bullies HBO documentary and it was an hour well spent! Really enjoyed it.

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Go to a flyers game in Philly. Pick a rival game like Pittsburgh. If you aren't a fan after that the idk.
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everything in nova is expensive. But for good reason. Arlington has a plethora of beautiful women, much more so than anywhere ive ever lived plus any place you live is going to get old.
As an Arlington resident, I would agree that we are all beautiful

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It's sad to see so many Philadelphians actually dignifying a Philly vs. DC sports thread with a response.

A real Philly fan should be embarrassed that we're even being compared to the joke of a sports town that is DC.

To the OP: If the choice between the two cities isn't abundantly clear by this point, then I'd advise you to go root for the Capitols. There's no room for wishy-washy fans in Philly. We live and die with our teams here, and we don't need airhorns to start Let's Go Flyers chants.
As mentioned by others the Redskins have a pretty diehard following though there are also a lot of Cowboys fans in the area. I don't follow football but as I understand the Redskins have pretty much sucked since 1990 or 1991 until RG3. Despite that people have stayed loyal to them.

To the OP I'm from D.C. and I'm a Flyers fan. I was originally a Caps fan but I didn't really follow the sport, but then I switched to being a Flyers fan because part of my family is Philadelphia or the area and those that are still there are the only ones that are interested in hockey. Despite that I didn't really start watching or learning about the Flyers until 07-08. I will say as mentioned the Flyers have a much cooler history than the Capitals, though I don't know the Caps history well from what little I know they don't seem to have had that special identity that still kind of follows the Flyers around though it doesn't so much apply to them anymore.

Beef already mentioned this but D.C. does have areas of culture and isn't all transient and I'd just like to mention D.C. actually was kind of influential in rock music in the 80s. Look at Hardcore-Punk here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_o..._D.C.#Hardcore . The band Minor Threat which I think was big for the straight edge movement was from here, and one of the band members Brian Baker is also in the band Bad Religion (fun fact for people in the areaI think a number of the band member worked at the Haagen-Daz in Georgetown, but I'm not sure if it is the same location). Henry Rollins who became the front man for Black Flag is from here. Apparently the band Bad Brains was kind of influential and they are from D.C.. D.C. also has a form of music that originated here called Go-Go which you can also find out about in that link. Finally on the music front Duke Ellington and John Phillp Sousa are from D.C.. I'm sure there are far more famous musicians from Philly I just wanted point out that the area wasn't devoid of any sort of culture or history.

Unstable (I know you were not saying there weren't) there are some historical neighborhoods in D.C.,though I'm guessing nothing compared to Philly. I know Cleveland Park is a historical neighborhood, it is where Grover Cleveland used to come in the Summer, and kind of across the street from where the house was is an old farmhouse from the 1730s (I think most other houses in the area are from the late 1800s or more recently) which was lived in by a Revolutionary War general http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uriah_Forrest (fun fact that house is where Elian Gonzalez stayed when he lived in D.C.). I believe a prominent American family (the Macomb family) had a house in the area too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babcock-Macomb_House though you can file that family under National history. More on the area if anyone is interested http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/wash/dc4.htm .

Georgetown is a historical neighborhood (Alexander Graham Bell had a house there), Dumbarton Oaks is an old mansion there and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumbarton_Oaks_Conference happened there, and there is another old mansion that I can't remember the name but I think it is pretty much all rebuilt. Near UDC there is the Hillwood Estate which belonged to the heiress of the Kellog fortune. There are some big houses around there but I don't think they are particularly old. Anacostia (the neighborhood) has some historical houses including Frederick Douglass's house. There might be some old stuff near the Navy Yard and the Marine Barracks, the Navy Yard has at least one building that was around during Lincoln's presidency as he apparently would go down there to get away from the White House but I guess they might be as old as a few years after the British attacked Washington in 1813 or 14 (of course though you can visit the Navy Yard you can't just go for a jog there). I've never been there but Lincoln also had a cottage in D.C. which is now a museum http://lincolncottage.org/ . The Berry Farm area also has an interesting history though I haven't been there http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry_Farm though sadly already or soon a lot of those people have been or will be forced to move out of DC due to redevelopment of that area and the gentrification that will follow.

edit- That whole neighborhood thing was useless I just wanted to point out that D.C. is interesting beyond national monuments/federal buildings, though the OP should go with the Flyers. JTown I think I read the D.C. area is/was rated one of the top places in the country for singles or something like that in terms of available younger people or something like that.


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As mentioned by others the Redskins have a pretty diehard following though there are also a lot of Cowboys fans in the area. I don't follow football but as I understand the Redskins have pretty much sucked since 1990 or 1991 until RG3. Despite that people have stayed loyal to them.

To the OP I'm from D.C. and I'm a Flyers fan. I was originally a Caps fan but I didn't really follow the sport, but then I switched to being a Flyers fan because part of my family is Philadelphia or the area and those that are still there are the only ones that are interested in hockey. Despite that I didn't really start watching or learning about the Flyers until 07-08. I will say as mentioned the Flyers have a much cooler history than the Capitals, though I don't know the Caps history well from what little I know they don't seem to have had that special identity that still kind of follows the Flyers around though it doesn't so much apply to them anymore.

Beef already mentioned this but D.C. does have areas of culture and isn't all transient and I'd just like to mention D.C. actually was kind of influential in rock music in the 80s. Look at Hardcore-Punk here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_o..._D.C.#Hardcore . The band Minor Threat which I think was big for the straight edge movement was from here, and one of the band members Brian Baker is also in the band Bad Religion (fun fact for people in the areaI think a number of the band member worked at the Haagen-Daz in Georgetown, but I'm not sure if it is the same location). Henry Rollins who became the front man for Black Flag is from here. Apparently the band Bad Brains was kind of influential and they are from D.C.. D.C. also has a form of music that originated here called Go-Go which you can also find out about in that link. Finally on the music front Duke Ellington and John Phillp Sousa are from D.C.. I'm sure there are far more famous musicians from Philly I just wanted point out that the area wasn't devoid of any sort of culture or history.

Unstable (I know you were not saying there weren't) there are some historical neighborhoods in D.C.,though I'm guessing nothing compared to Philly. I know Cleveland Park is a historical neighborhood, it is where Grover Cleveland used to come in the Summer, and kind of across the street from where the house was is an old farmhouse from the 1730s (I think most other houses in the area are from the late 1800s or more recently) which was lived in by a Revolutionary War general http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uriah_Forrest (fun fact that house is where Elian Gonzalez stayed when he lived in D.C.). I believe a prominent American family (the Macomb family) had a house in the area too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babcock-Macomb_House though you can file that family under National history. More on the area if anyone is interested http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/wash/dc4.htm .

Georgetown is a historical neighborhood (Alexander Graham Bell had a house there), Dumbarton Oaks is an old mansion there and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumbarton_Oaks_Conference happened there, and there is another old mansion that I can't remember the name but I think it is pretty much all rebuilt. Near UDC there is the Hillwood Estate which belonged to the heiress of the Kellog fortune. There are some big houses around there but I don't think they are particularly old. Anacostia (the neighborhood) has some historical houses including Frederick Douglass's house. There might be some old stuff near the Navy Yard and the Marine Barracks, the Navy Yard has at least one building that was around during Lincoln's presidency as he apparently would go down there to get away from the White House but I guess they might be as old as a few years after the British attacked Washington in 1813 or 14 (of course though you can visit the Navy Yard you can't just go for a jog there). I've never been there but Lincoln also had a cottage in D.C. which is now a museum http://lincolncottage.org/ . The Berry Farm area also has an interesting history though I haven't been there http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry_Farm though sadly already or soon a lot of those people have been or will be forced to move out of DC due to redevelopment of that area and the gentrification that will follow.

edit- That whole neighborhood thing was useless I just wanted to point out that D.C. is interesting beyond national monuments/federal buildings, though the OP should go with the Flyers. JTown I think I read the D.C. area is/was rated one of the top places in the country for singles or something like that in terms of available younger people or something like that.
I get a huge kick out of DC's historic preservation ordinance. It only covers facades. So you can walk around in, say, Gallery Place, and all these brand new apartment buildings had victorian brick facades built into them here or there. Really fun.

I lived for two years on Capitol Hill in the basement of an old rowhouse, there are a lot of nice buildings there too. In the winter of 09-10 when it snowed stupid amounts we would play snow kickball in the intersections, and then roving packs of people would walk around digging cars out as a neighborly gesture.

There are a lot of really nice and historic buildings and homes off the main drag in many areas, not just Cleveland Park but throughout the NW, in less built up parts of Arlington (as I mentioned I jog in some of them), and along the waterfronts. Most of them are residential or hard to get to - the city really lives by the metro and newer development has followed the metro and wiped out some historic areas.

Georgetown is an entirely different beast. I love the neighborhood, I do not love the college students. But DC has definitely been good to me.

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The only good thing about D.C. was when the Air and Space Smithsonian had a Star Wars exhibit.

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I've lived in dc. I've lived in philly , I've lived on the mainline and I've lived in the northern virginia suburbs.

I'll say this, philly is a much more blue collar town, with more of an identity and background. You meet someone from philly and you feel a connection because you share a similar identity. You meet someone from NOVA or DC and there really isn't the same type of feeling because within those areas there is such diversity among the backgrounds of people. My roommates are from ghana, and Japan. I've dated women from Ethiopia, Palestine, South Africa,South Korea, india, and the Philippines. My current girlfriend is from China.

While DC may not have a culture to it, i feel there is such a strong international presence here for obvious reasons. That type of setting is unique to only new york. Also this place is recession proof. The federal government creates such a stable job market for the whole area. However i do think there is a bubble to this community. This area is not a realistic representation of america. This place is low crime, affluent, diverse, and expensive. When i leave the bubble and go back to philly it takes some time to adjust.

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I was born and raised in the Philadelphia area, then moved to DC for graduate school. I lived in the DC area for 25 years. They are both great cities. If you're interested in American history you can't go wrong with either one. Philadelphia has some great museums- Art Museum, Rodin museum, Natural History, Franklin Institute Science Museum, U of Penn Archaeology and Anthropology, and the oldest zoo in the country. Plenty of fun nightlife.

DC has much of the same- the Smithsonian is fantastic, and free. Both cities have a lot of green spaces and are not that difficult to get around (compared to NY anyway).

As for the Flyers vs the Caps, like others have said, the Flyers will probably always be competitive. The Caps, not so much. The flip side of that is that although they've been doing well attendance wise recently, that will probably change at some point and tickets will be easy to come by.

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I'm from the Philadelphia area originally, and I went down to DC at 18 for undergrad studies.

The city was awesome for the first 5-6 years. By the 7th year it was just progressively getting more annoying from the metro on weekends for work to the people and the tourists and just everything.

I moved back into Philly about 2 months ago.

That said, true Caps fans are awesome, but they're just like true fans of Florida, Tampa Bay, and Carolina. There's maybe a little more of them than the other organizations, but the truth is that most of the Capitals "fans" are little more than Redskins fans jumping on the Caps because for a while they were the only winning program. Since the Caps started to fall off a bit with the downfall of Ovechkin, they switched over to the next winning program, which is the Nationals.

The Caps also have the unenviable scenario of being in a transplant city, so not only are a large chunk of the people going to the Caps games and cheering for them not actual Caps fans, they're transplants just looking for cool things to do in the city before moving on.

So not only do you get an heavy mix of annoying rich kids and interns looking to kill time, but you also get a nice wealth of bandwagoners.

I will say that their organization and fanbase is much broader than others in the now defunct SE division, but they also have other significantly annoying issues to contend with.

To top it all off, they're not the Flyers and don't have the financial ability nor the program commitment that the Philadelphia based organization has.

Both organizations have a wealth of young fans. Philadelphia has more of a tradition through older generations though, and the young fans that the Flyers have, for the most part of what I've seen around Philly, are fairly loyal to the Orange and Black as their first organization as opposed to the Eagles and Phillies and Sixers.

What you get in Philadelphia is an awesome mix of generations along with a nice healthy influx of college age kids who grew up through the Legion of Doom, the post-Lindros era, the Richards + Carter era, and now the Giroux-era as kids are now in their late teens and early 20's.

DC is another period of struggle away from falling back down particularly because their fanbase appeal is more towards transplants and interns than locals.

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I began watching hockey in this years playoffs with a friend who is a blackhawks fan since then I've recently started learning to play hockey in an adult learn to play league. I've had a blast over the past month learning to play and I am looking for a team. I've narrowed my list down to the Flyers and Capitals and I'm asking both teams fans to make a case for their team. I will be traveling for 3 or 4 days to the city of whatever team I pick next season as well. I've traveled to DC 4 different times, but never to Philadelphia, so please tell me what's some of the fun stuff to do in Philly (at this point I don't know what will cause me to make my final decision I'm just hoping for some help).
Philly is easily a much better sports town than DC. Its not even close.

DC has many transplants, whereas Philly has born and bred local fans. Its not even close. And I really like DC as a city - its great, but sports wise, Philly hands down.

skimmed around, but did anyone even mention Xfinity Live and the sports complex? Easily one of the best sports complexes in the country. Everything all in one place with public transportation.


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Pro Philly: Exciting team and passionate fans. The ownership will always spend to the the max cap to remain competitive. Even in a usually boring offseason the Flyers will be entertaining as their GM makes very bold and aggressive moves. The in-game atmosphere in Philly is a 6 on a scale of 1-10. However the playoff atmosphere in Philly is a 9 out of 10, only rivaled by the likes of Montreal, Chicago, etc. With a nice young core like Giroux, Simmonds, Voracek, Schenn(s), Mason and Couturier, the Flyers will be good for a long time. The arena offers the Pavillion which is open before and after the game and is a great hangout.

Cons Philly: The fans are passionate but often borderline on the obscene and outrageous. The arena is located off of I-95 and is a royal pain in the butt with traffic and parking. The Flyers are often reduced to 4th fiddle in the Philly sports media so don't expect any worthwhile coverage. Opposing fanbases hate the Flyers and their fans more than pretty much any other team. Flyers fans are thick as thieves but are resented across the world. The Flyers LOVE to trade. This is exciting and could be good unless you end up liking and certain player. Chances are they WILL be traded.... Lindros, LeCalir, Recchi, Richards, Carter, JVR, Bobrovsky, etc.

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Pro Washington: Exciting team lead by top stars like Ovechkin, Backstrom and Green. Caps fans are not as rowdy as Flyers fans but their fanbase is made up by a lot of college crowds who have a blast at the arena. You will always have a megastar to root for (unless Ovechkin is traded). The arena is located downtown in Chinatown area of DC and has great places to eat and drink within walking distance. The arena location is DEFINITELY better than that in Philly. Caps fans are friendly.

Cons Washington: The GM is way too passive and never makes a bold move. The offseason and trade deadline for the Caps is usually a snooze fest. The team, even with stars, usually underachieves and it's starting to get old. The fans are nice but not nearly as rabid as Philly's. The drama and excitement surrounding the Caps is nowhere near as eventful as Philly. The Caps never won a Cup and don't have the rich history as the Flyers.

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Cons Philly: The fans are passionate but often borderline on the obscene and outrageous. The arena is located off of I-95 and is a royal pain in the butt with traffic and parking. The Flyers are often reduced to 4th fiddle in the Philly sports media so don't expect any worthwhile coverage. Opposing fanbases hate the Flyers and their fans more than pretty much any other team. Flyers fans are thick as thieves but are resented across the world. The Flyers LOVE to trade. This is exciting and could be good unless you end up liking and certain player. Chances are they WILL be traded.... Lindros, LeCalir, Recchi, Richards, Carter, JVR, Bobrovsky, etc.
For the most part, Flyers fans are pretty well-versed and educated about their sport. It's the guys who are more fans of the Eagles, Phillies, and Sixers that have a hard time keeping up with the hockey discussion.

These are the people that make absurd comments and discussion.

Truth be told, actual Flyers fans are as knowledgeable a fan base as almost any in the NHL. Just because people call into 94.7 after hearing about the Lecavalier signing doesn't mean they're Flyers fans. Most actually put the Flyers in 4th. I know this because most Flyers fans don't pay much attention to the media in Philadelphia. They have no reason to unless Paul Holmgren has a press conference on CSN.

The public transportation factor negates the parking problem. Our stadium complex is awesome and easy to get to.

The only legit cons in your paragraph are that we players move around a lot so your favorite players might not stay your favorite forever (this seems like a cop out though since players don't really stay lifelong players anymore on any team in any sport) and the shot at the Philadelphia media, which is very true. Our media coverage for the Flyers blows, which is why we have a lot of idiot fans of other sports commenting on how well the Flyers are doing with regularly disastrous results.

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Pro Philly: Exciting team and passionate fans. The ownership will always spend to the the max cap to remain competitive. Even in a usually boring offseason the Flyers will be entertaining as their GM makes very bold and aggressive moves. The in-game atmosphere in Philly is a 6 on a scale of 1-10. However the playoff atmosphere in Philly is a 9 out of 10, only rivaled by the likes of Montreal, Chicago, etc. With a nice young core like Giroux, Simmonds, Voracek, Schenn(s), Mason and Couturier, the Flyers will be good for a long time. The arena offers the Pavillion which is open before and after the game and is a great hangout.

Cons Philly: The fans are passionate but often borderline on the obscene and outrageous. The arena is located off of I-95 and is a royal pain in the butt with traffic and parking. The Flyers are often reduced to 4th fiddle in the Philly sports media so don't expect any worthwhile coverage. Opposing fanbases hate the Flyers and their fans more than pretty much any other team. Flyers fans are thick as thieves but are resented across the world. The Flyers LOVE to trade. This is exciting and could be good unless you end up liking and certain player. Chances are they WILL be traded.... Lindros, LeCalir, Recchi, Richards, Carter, JVR, Bobrovsky, etc.
That's just completely false. Philadelphia is a big time American hockey market, if not the top. They crush the 76ers in local tv ratings and attendance, and are very well covered on television (DNLand Philly Sports Talk devote big segments to them), radio (though most hosts know very little), newspaper, etc. The Flyers have a pretty big fanbase in the region.

One thing that's cool about the Flyers is that the franchise has an Original 6 quality to them. Rich history and tradition. Always a contender. I really don't see how this is a tough decision.

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That's just completely false. Philadelphia is a big time American hockey market, if not the top. They crush the 76ers in local tv ratings and attendance, and are very well covered on television (DNLand Philly Sports Talk devote big segments to them), radio (though most hosts know very little), newspaper, etc. The Flyers have a pretty big fanbase in the region.

One thing that's cool about the Flyers is that the franchise has an Original 6 quality to them. Rich history and tradition. Always a contender. I really don't see how this is a tough decision.
It's not false. This is not a rip on the fans, it's on the media. The Flyers beat writers are a complete joke. Even their "hockey guys" like Morganti and Macnow know very little about hockey when push comes to shove. If you listen to either sports talk station, there is VERY little talk about the Flyers and when there is it's usually misinformed and shallow. For as passionate as the Flyers fans are in Philly, the media doesn't measure up. Flyers fans are very knowledgeable and can see through the phony media coverage in Philly.

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It's not false. This is not a rip on the fans, it's on the media. The Flyers beat writers are a complete joke. Even their "hockey guys" like Morganti and Macnow know very little about hockey when push comes to shove. If you listen to either sports talk station, there is VERY little talk about the Flyers and when there is it's usually misinformed and shallow. For as passionate as the Flyers fans are in Philly, the media doesn't measure up. Flyers fans are very knowledgeable and can see through the phony media coverage in Philly.
I agree the media can be a total joke but not for a lack of coverage, like at all. And to say that the Sixers get more coverage is just flat out wrong so at worst the Flyers are behind the Phillies and Eagles but the level of coverage in this town is insane so it's still more then the Caps get, It's really not a competition. Also Morganti is pretty knowledgeable but in general the radio scene in Philly is bad but who really cares about radio? Regardless the TV coverage is top notch. The Flyers even have a regularly airing show called the "Orangle Line" on CSN.

Again I agree that the radio talk shows in this area and a bunch of the writers in the area are a joke but there is plenty of quality coverage.

To OP, I really wish you knew more about hockey cause all you'd have to do is look at the current lineups to know which one to chose and that's without all the historic stuff (city of Philadelphia itself as well as the team).


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One thing that's cool about the Flyers is that the franchise has an Original 6 quality to them. Rich history and tradition. Always a contender. I really don't see how this is a tough decision.
I have been surprised by how many people believe the Flyers are an original six franchise (it comes up in online discussions more than you'd think).

Makes me wonder which team they forget about.

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You should pick the Flyers so you can hang out with us here.

Just compare our board to the Caps board.

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I have been surprised by how many people believe the Flyers are an original six franchise (it comes up in online discussions more than you'd think).

Makes me wonder which team they forget about.
I would guess NYR.

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I would guess NYR.
Actually, my guess would be CHI.

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One thing that's cool about the Flyers is that the franchise has an Original 6 quality to them. Rich history and tradition. Always a contender. I really don't see how this is a tough decision.
I knew almost nothing about hockey a month and a half ago, the decision is getting pretty easy at this point. I love the passion and input I've received here. Plus on a side note I already hate the steelers so this seems to line up fairly well with that.

But basically all I did was try and pick two teams who had colors I could stand to be seen in, were decent right now, and who I could reasonably drive to see once a year. Nashville at first seemed like a great choice, but I'm not cheering for a team that will likely move in the next 5 to 10 years. When I narrowed it down I got to Caps and Flyers and then this board has made the decision fairly easy.

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Just to address the music scenes mentioned above.

Yes, DC was a hardcore mecca in the 80s (Bad Brains, Black Flag, and Minor Threat, among others).

Philly was known for its punk scene in the 80s (think Dead Milkmen) and is seeing a resurgence of artists today (The Holy Mess kicks ass). Plus Philly had/has an amazing hip hop/b-boy culture going back to the early 80s.

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That's just completely false. Philadelphia is a big time American hockey market, if not the top. They crush the 76ers in local tv ratings and attendance, and are very well covered on television (DNLand Philly Sports Talk devote big segments to them), radio (though most hosts know very little), newspaper, etc. The Flyers have a pretty big fanbase in the region.

One thing that's cool about the Flyers is that the franchise has an Original 6 quality to them. Rich history and tradition. Always a contender. I really don't see how this is a tough decision.
Couple things, the Flyers have a huge fanbase that is pretty obvious but when it comes to Top American hockey market's Minnesota is easily better and I'd probably argue that Buffalo is as well. The 76ers had 1 year in the past 3 decades that has actually mattered the fact that we crush them ratings-wise in a town where winning is everything isn't something I'm all that proud of, yet at the same time I still see his point. When you turn on the TV to watch SportsCenter or anything else the main talk of the town is #1 always going to be the Eagles no matter what time of year and lately #2 has been the Phil's who supplanted the Flyers when they won the series and became relevant again. In March and early April as the season is winding down and the playoff push is going on the Flyers are largely ignored by local media because of College Basketball. March Madness dominates the media through the whole final month of the NHL regular season EVERY year. Aside from the odd segment here and there of how everyone's favorite goalie said the universe was big or a quick 30 second recap of a game from that night that shows absolutely nothing BUT the goals scored TV media coverage is very lackadaisical.

Then there's radio coverage. LOL. I came home tonight listening to a caller suggesting we trade Coburn and Schenn (did not specify which one) for Weber and the host, (JodyMac) who by all accounts is pretty much ONLY a baseball guy; say that was too much to give up and we should try to get him for just Coburn and picks. The two stations in town are like picking the lesser of two evils, neither one of them talk hockey willingly and when they do they know nothing of what they talk about I don't care whose on. They know the big time names from the past and thats pretty much it. Neither one of them can be bothered to hire anyone who talks or knows hockey well, let alone spend some time actually talking about it. Macnow claims to be a big fan of the game but he doesn't stay current. I'm not up early enough to listen to Cataldi and Morganti (even if I was Cataldi annoys the ever loving piss out of me.) so I can't comment on them but from what I've seen of Morganti on TV he's much of the same.

Then you have printed media. First off, if you're still paying for a newspaper you've got to be almost 70 years old, or you use it when your dog makes a "mess". So as for online articles, who besides Meltzer actually writes and reports worthwhile things and does it well? The buffoonery of our "beat writers" is absurd. They'd rather stir up drama and run guys out of town then actually comment on what matters.

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It's not false. This is not a rip on the fans, it's on the media. The Flyers beat writers are a complete joke. Even their "hockey guys" like Morganti and Macnow know very little about hockey when push comes to shove. If you listen to either sports talk station, there is VERY little talk about the Flyers and when there is it's usually misinformed and shallow. For as passionate as the Flyers fans are in Philly, the media doesn't measure up. Flyers fans are very knowledgeable and can see through the phony media coverage in Philly.
This, 100 percent. The Flyers fans that are knowledgeable don't waste their time with it. They are here or at other communities like it.

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I agree the media can be a total joke but not for a lack of coverage, like at all. And to say that the Sixers get more coverage is just flat out wrong so at worst the Flyers are behind the Phillies and Eagles but the level of coverage in this town is insane so it's still more then the Caps get, It's really not a competition. Also Morganti is pretty knowledgeable but in general the radio scene in Philly is bad but who really cares about radio? Regardless the TV coverage is top notch. The Flyers even have a regularly airing show called the "Orangle Line" on CSN.

Again I agree that the radio talk shows in this area and a bunch of the writers in the area are a joke but there is plenty of quality coverage.

To OP, I really wish you knew more about hockey cause all you'd have to do is look at the current lineups to know which one to chose and that's without all the historic stuff (city of Philadelphia itself as well as the team).
So the media is a joke but their is no lack of coverage and that's ok why? I care about the radio because listening to song's played back over and over and over again is mind numbing. Talk radio is a saving grace at least it can be interesting or entertaining and is different every time. And Sports is what I like to talk (breathe) about. Granted I drive more per week then most people though as well due to my job.

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