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[MTL/FLA] George Parros for Philippe Lefebvre & 2014 7th pick

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07-08-2013, 04:25 PM
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You guys must not have watched much of Parros last yr, huh? He only had like 9 fights this past season and he barely won half of them. And most of his wins probably werent even against heavyweights. Think about this people, why would FL trade Parros when they have/had basically nobody that was willing to fight except Parros last yr?

There's so few guys who are even willing to go with him that it makes him useless taking a 4th line shift. You can look at his stats on hockeyfights and judge for yourself: http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/...htcard/reg2013
Teams need to realize that having heavyweights like Parros just doesnt make sense anymore in the NHL. Middleweights are the way to go as they can usually take a regular shift and can prevent guys from taking runs at teammates.
You should really spend more than 5 secs doing some research.

He ranked in the top 10 for fights and almost all of his fights were against the heaviest of heavyweights. He picked both fights with Scott...who nobody ever dares to fight. Do some comparative analysis.

http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/...htcard/reg2013

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07-08-2013, 04:34 PM
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Parros is absolutely horrible. Doesn't hit, doesn't win fights.
Love him as a person though, really good with fans and real clever.

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07-08-2013, 06:35 PM
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The Habs love enforcers who don't enforce.

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07-08-2013, 06:54 PM
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The Habs love enforcers who don't enforce.
Oh, it's true. I say that with woe, not sarcasm, because I am a Habs fan.

I think that developing an enforcer is just like developing any other type of prospect. We can argue about the merits of enforcer-ship and whether fighting should be banned -- but let's not. If a team assumes the philosophy that an enforcer is a useful player to have on the roster, then the same care should be taken to draft and develop that type of prospect as one would a shutdown defenceman, an attack winger, a puck moving defenceman (PMD, I know, but I dislike acronyms), etc.

To be clear, I am not advocating for a team-building strategy that puts an irrational amount of resources (draft picks, coaching, whatever else) into developing an enforcer. All I'm saying is that if you feel that you need an enforcer, as an organizational philosophy, then you should do it right. And that's something the Habs have been bad at for a long time. For about as long as they have been a "Smurf" team -- at one time they were a respectably tough and snarly team -- their strategy has been to deny the need for an enforcer, or to get a reputable NHLer with a diminishing reputation, or even to rummage quietly in the annual bin of reject AHLers.

I would like to hope that Bergevin acquired Parros as a placeholder, nothing more, while the team actually devotes some attention to addressing that type of player through prospect development, whether the draft (Crisp) or overage UFAs (ideally, both). If that is the case, then Parros is just fine as an acquisition to round out a 23 man roster for this particular offseason. But if it's meant to signal -- "Hey, everything is cool, the Smurfs are safe, we got THIS," then I guess I am back to feeling woeful.

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07-08-2013, 07:00 PM
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It's about damn time you guys acquired someone like Parros to fight!

Should make it for a more entertaining year, especially vs teams like Ottawa and Toronto!

MTL:

Prust
Parros
Moen ( though he doesn't seem to fight anymore)

TOR:

McLaren
Orr
Clarkson
Fraser

OTT:

Kassian
Neil
Smith
Cowan
Moen will grapple.

You forgot to mention White, who must be a favourite of the Sens players.

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07-08-2013, 07:10 PM
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You forgot to mention White, who must be a favourite of the Sens players.
Favourite what, punching bag? Him even being on the Habs roster is a win for opposing teams.

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07-08-2013, 07:12 PM
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I've been reading about how ''Moen will fight'' for years and yet when the going gets tough he never steps up and defends his teammates.


Habs need an angry young enforcer looking to take on all comers.

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07-08-2013, 07:26 PM
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Favourite what, punching bag? Him even being on the Habs roster is a win for opposing teams.
I just meant he doesn't seem to get along with your team.

He's a good 4th line player, when he calms down with the antics.

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07-08-2013, 08:04 PM
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Habs don't do anything and the trolls of other teams chirp.
habs do something and the trolls of other teams chirp.
notice a trend?
bottom line? habs still need size in their top 6.
but a team that has Prust, Parros, Moen, White and Tinordi
in it is not soft.
They're extremely soft. Their team is a bunch of soft players and/or midgets outside of those players, and even those players aren't very tough. Prust can only beat heavyweights by getting them off balance and hitting them when they're down, Parros only won 1 fight last season vs Grossmann, Moen doesn't even fight, White is a punching bag and Tinordi has shown absolutely nothing in the NHL that would show he's capable of taking on heavyweights. So basically you end up with 3/4 midgets, 1/4 tough guys who aren't very tough. Sounds really soft to me.

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07-08-2013, 08:12 PM
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Dude cant win no more fights anymore. Orr would still **** him up

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07-08-2013, 08:26 PM
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You should really spend more than 5 secs doing some research.

He ranked in the top 10 for fights and almost all of his fights were against the heaviest of heavyweights. He picked both fights with Scott...who nobody ever dares to fight. Do some comparative analysis.

http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/...htcard/reg2013
Dude, I watched him all season as a Panthers STH. He got beat both times by Scott too but that's not the point really. He wasn't a guy who's fights actually changed any momentum or defended a teammate who was run by an opponent.

The guy was trying to be less of a fighter and trying too much to be someone who can take a regular shift. The problem with that is he was never good when trying to do that and thus he wasn't as effective when he actually did fight. If he actually stuck to his role as a true enforcer, then he would be better off but that's not what he wants to do.

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Favourite what, punching bag? Him even being on the Habs roster is a win for opposing teams.
He is pretty useless, but he seems to be able to pick off Karlsson' ill-advise passes quite easily and somehow score.

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07-08-2013, 09:19 PM
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Dude cant win no more fights anymore. Orr would still **** him up
Orr is one punch away from hanging his skates and Parros is still very capable of delivering that one punch.

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07-08-2013, 09:29 PM
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Orr is one punch away from hanging his skates and Parros is still very capable of delivering that one punch.
That's true

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Favourite what, punching bag? Him even being on the Habs roster is a win for opposing teams.
Yeah, losing a fight when attempting to fight with a pulmonary laceration... what a ***** this guy is

lol at those calling the Habs the softest team around with Parros, Prust, Moen and White who can drop'em.

Add Bouillon and Tinordi on D who are also capable of taking on some guys...

As for Parros "not enforcing anymore"... 9 fights last season in 39 games. A pace of 19 over 82 games. Almost fights only HW, yet, still finds a way to land a couple of punches in every single one of his fights, and win 50% of them pretty much every season.

Habs still got a long way to go before being called a "tough" team. But before talking out of your ass, check the facts:

Detroit, TB, Florida and Buffalo, just within this division, are not even to this team's level if it gets ugly. Even Ottawa looked better than they were in the playoffs this spring because of the matchups... I mean, really Zack Smith? Fighting a 37 years old, 5'8 Bouillon with a broken pinky, and then waiving to the crowd? Wow! You're got to be real tough!

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Smith asked him if he wanted to fight, and apparently he said "yes" So that's on Bouillon.

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I mean, really Zack Smith? Fighting a 37 years old, 5'8 Bouillon with a broken pinky, and then waiving to the crowd? Wow! You're got to be real tough!
You think maybe Bouillon should have declined the fight, instead of picking it, in that case? Smith asked him more than once if he was really, really sure he wanted to go. Bouillon insisted.

Enough with the excuses, Habs fans. "You only looked better because of the matchups". Well, yeah? What else is there in hockey, other than matchups?

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The Habs love enforcers who don't enforce.
Will be fun to see Chris Neal run away from Parros all year long...

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Let's not poop on Parros. He's one of the older dogs in the fight, and probably has enough scrap to be a worthwhile signing for a team like the Habs whose opponents literally laughed at their attempts to stand up for themselves. At least Parros is going to be able to take a respectable beating once in a while, something few guys on Montreal were capable of doing.

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Moen will grapple.

You forgot to mention White, who must be a favourite of the Sens players.
You forgot to mention gryda for ottawa . He hasnt fought in the NHL cause he was relied upon to be a shut down d but he made through the organization as a fighter.


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