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07-07-2013, 11:02 PM
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...so none of our picks have a shot?
Picks from last month? They were 3rd rounders and lower...doubtful we'll be seeing any of them on Broadway for 3 years, probably longer.

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Ryan Callahan is a 25-30 goal scorer and people want him on the third line?

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Dorsett had a fair amount of PK time in Columbus, I believe. He could be an option on a second unit with Moore.
Nash MIGHT be an option for the PK..

This, unfortunately, is another reason why Powe may be pulled up at some point. he is a solid PKer

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07-08-2013, 12:00 AM
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...so none of our picks have a shot?
from this draft? I'd seriously doubt it.

Tambellini has the most skill, and is very underweight. Needs another 20-30 lbs of muscle on him before he can do anything useful on the ice with his body. (Side note, his hockey brain works, and works well... I'm pretty sure his physical body can't keep up yet)

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07-08-2013, 12:02 AM
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Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Hagelin-Brassard-Callahan
Pouliot-Richards-Zuccarello
Boyle-Moore-Dorsett
Pyatt, Kristo/Miller

Staal-Girardi
McD-MDZ
Moore-Stralman


I'm excited to see what Kreider could do with AV and on a line with Stepan and Nash. Not a big fan on that 3rd line however, they could get exposed defensively.

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07-08-2013, 01:06 AM
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Kreider Stepan Nash
Pouliot Richards Zuc
Pyatt Brassard Kristo
Boyle Moore Dorsett

after the wounded return

Kreider Stepan Nash
Pouliot Richards Zuc
Hagelin Brassard Callahan
Boyle Moore Pyatt

Kristo and Dorsett ride the pine, although Kristo could force a move if he shows up and puts points on the board.

Although I think Boyle is probably gone which means Dorsett sees regular ice time

4th line
Pyatt Moore Dorsett

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07-08-2013, 05:00 AM
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Kreider Stepan Nash
Pouliot Richards Zuc
Pyatt Brassard Kristo
Boyle Moore Dorsett

after the wounded return

Kreider Stepan Nash
Pouliot Richards Zuc
Hagelin Brassard Callahan
Boyle Moore Pyatt

Kristo and Dorsett ride the pine, although Kristo could force a move if he shows up and puts points on the board.

Although I think Boyle is probably gone which means Dorsett sees regular ice time

4th line
Pyatt Moore Dorsett
If Kreider is going to play 1LW he's going to have to show us a hell of a lot more than he did last season. I'd try him out there to start the season, since we'll be missing hagelin's speed.

Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Pouliot-Richards- Zuc
Pyatt/Asham-Brassard-Kristo/Fast/Lindberg
Boyle Moore Dorsett

When all are healthy:
1 Hagelin - Stepan - Nash
2 Zuc - Richards - Callahan
3 Kreider- Brassard - Pouliot
4 Boyle - Moore - Dorsett

1 They worked well together at times this year, Stepan's passing gets better every year and Hags is strong behind the net. Rick Nash is Rick Nash. This line will score.
2. I feel Zuc needs Callahan on the oposite wing. He adds just the right amount of grit and defense, in addition to his ability to get the "ugly" goals. Zuc should be able to get the puc to Cally in front of the net or to Rich for a shot. Should be a highs scoring line too.
3. Brass and Kreids seemd to have some chemistry. Not 100% sure about this one as both wingers are best as LW, but they should be fine.
4. One of the best fourth lines of hockey

PP1

------Stepan-------
---------Net--------
-----Callahan----Nash
Richards----McDonagh

PP2:
-----Brassard-------
-------Net-----------
------Kreider---Zuccarello
MDZ----------Stralman

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07-08-2013, 10:15 AM
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Right now there is a bit of a logjam on the offensive side of things. I'm going to assume the following players will be in the starting lineup from the get-go, regardless of their preseason and training camp performance.

Richards, Callahan, Nash, Hagelin, Kreider, Brassard, Zuccarello, Stepan, Pouliot, Moore, Dorsett

...with Lindberg, Miller, Boyle, Hrivik, Fast, Kristo, and Pyatt fighting it out for the last spots. I'd let the young guys stick around in Hartford for a while; and bring up a hot hand only if you need to.

Hagelin - Stepan - Nash
Kreider - Brassard - Zuccarello
Pouliot - Richards - Callahan
Boyle - Moore - Dorsett
Pyatt

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07-09-2013, 12:38 AM
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Real lines

NASH-- B.R.--KRISTO/KREIDER(
POULIOT--STEPAN--PYATT/dorsett
BRASSARD-JTM-DORSETT/BOYLE
palmieri.-DOMINIC MOORE-STEWART/HRIVIK(TRADE A prospect/PICK FOR UNDERUSED former 1st rounder Anthony Stewart he's good for short 10-20 game stretches and will give hagelin/Callahan time to fully heal)

CALLAHAN+HAGELIN can't be the only puck possesion beasts(tsn words) there is a need for another speedster to step up.
They've already missed out on Dvorak/Stalberg ...but Kristo looks legit and DOBBERSHOCKEY has HRIVIK as a strong possibility to start the opening roster...Time will tell.

Blueline needs major work on the Right Side....They lose Gilroy...but can still get Sanguinetti/Blum or trade for #1 overall disappointment E.Johnson. He's every bit as good as McDonagh without the size mismatches that occassionally occur and he's only 3.7m cap hit for next few seasons. NYR have the cap space problems because they overpay middling talent or alienate guys and pay top rate(lundqvist was looking for 5mill and then after arbitration used LUONGO as a comparable to stick it to Sather and now the team is stuck dumping salary in Lundqvists final year of his contract.....Coincidence --no team has won under the cap era with a $5million+ goalie yet....it won't happen anytime soon unless somebody makes big trades or has injuries to keep them under the cap midseason.
NYR HAVE both their captain and top skater in Callahan injured to start and Hagelin+MDZ needing time to heal as well which could lower the cap hit slightly ....TAKE advantage and load up this season the way that Pittsburgh did last season. The weakness there was a weak blueline which NYR doesn't really have. They have great Left shooting blueliners with only 1 legit top guy on the right side in Girardi.
TRADE for a legitimate speedskating Right shooting defender or sign a UFA.

Staal-Girardi
McDonagh-Falk/Future UFA/Trade Acquisition
Moore-MDZ
Eminger-McIlrath
Stralman(good value for trade should be dumped now if possible)


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07-09-2013, 01:14 AM
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Stralman(good value for trade should be dumped now if possible)


Stralman plays the right side. It's only him and Girardi that play there. Stralman can pinch in and play top-4 minutes when required. I wouldn't be trading him.

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07-09-2013, 11:52 AM
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Okay, I think we could use a lines thread with the additions the team has made to the roster and the fact that the first day of free agency has officially PASSED. So...what you guys got? This is mine, ideally:

Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Hagelin-Brassard-Callahan
Pouliot-Richards-Zuccarello
Boyle-Moore-Dorsett

Two scoring lines, an energy line (the second line, that is, the third line will be a sheltered offensive line), and a shutdown line. I like the way the roster is shaping up, any of these lines could chip in a goal at any given time.
I like these lines. Except I'd maybe switch Cally and Zucc.

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07-09-2013, 02:05 PM
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I'm in favor of the lines listed in the OP. Good balance throughout, especially now that we have Pouliot.

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07-09-2013, 06:42 PM
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I really like your guys signing of Pouliot. He never panned out as a 1st line 30 goal scorer like everyone expected, but he's still a solid player who can score 15 goals and knows how to use his size even if he isn't the most physical player. The Devils have been signing former high first round picks who never reached their full potential, but have still become solid 3rd and 4th line players for a while now. Pouliot can become your guys version of our Bernier. I actually wish we signed Pouliot instead of Olesz, oh well.

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07-09-2013, 08:24 PM
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If Richards can return to format, I would put him with Nash and Kreider since Stepan Hagelin and Callahan worked well together last year.

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07-09-2013, 08:27 PM
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Ryan Callahan is a 25-30 goal scorer and people want him on the third line?
Maybe to balance out the lines. Excellent two way game.

I want him on the top power play unit. He's so underrated there.

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Maybe to balance out the lines. Excellent two way game.

I want him on the top power play unit. He's so underrated there.
That's quite accurate. I most likely see Callahan as a fixture on the 2A or 2B lines depending on the opponent. His grit, heart, and compete level would make him one of the best third line checking forwards in the NHL but his goal-scoring abilities allow him to assume second line duties. If you're looking for an analog, Mike Keane would be a good comparison.

This also brings me to Carl Hagelin. He has great wheels and compete level, an asset on the forecheck. The biggest question is: does he have first line abilities to score consistently? Sure he had his moments playing with Richards and Gaborik during the 2012 playoffs, but his ceiling is not too high to be a first line regular. Signing Benoit Pouliot could prove to be beneficial to Hagelin as it may very well enable him to maximize his skating and hustle on both ends of the puck, since Pouliot has first line skill - albeit inconsistently - so he gets pegged down to the second line. Which is why Hagelin could thrive on the third line (think of him as a faster version of Jan Erixon or Niklas Sundstrom... possibly Bob Gainey if you're stretching the comparisons)

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07-09-2013, 09:34 PM
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If Richards can return to format, I would put him with Nash and Kreider since Stepan Hagelin and Callahan worked well together last year.
I think Nash-Stepan-Kreider has to be a top line. i mean all of them have chemistry especially kreider and stepan

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I think Nash-Stepan-Kreider has to be a top line. i mean all of them have chemistry especially kreider and stepan
that was a very small sample size though, Hagelin-Stepan-Callahan was one of the best lines we had last year just beside Hagelin-Stepan-Nash

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Stepan and Kreider have chemistry. Stepan and Nash have chemistry. Why the hell not? is what I say

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Stepan and Kreider have chemistry. Stepan and Nash have chemistry. Why the hell not? is what I say
And that goal from Nash to Kreider in this year's playoffs. I would say that's some good chemistry.

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07-10-2013, 03:15 PM
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When Healthy:

Kreider Richards Nash
Zucc Brass Miller
Hags Step Cally
Pouliot Moore Dorsett
Powe Asham

I list Step's line 3rd because they will be tasked with a shut down role when needed. I fully expect Miller to make this team next year. If he doesn't it will be because Kristo is better in camp. I also expect Boyle and Pyatt to be moved.

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CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Derek Stepan ($3.500m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / Mats Zuccarello ($1.500m)
Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Taylor Pyatt ($1.550m) / J.T. Miller ($1.244m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Anton Stralman ($1.700m)
Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m) / John Moore ($0.965m)
Justin Falk ($0.975m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
OTHER
Buried: Darroll Powe ($0.142m)
Buried: Arron Asham ($0.075m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,525,833; BONUSES: $1,287,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $61,667

Hagelin and Cally are on LTIR the first month or so. Meaning Asham and/or Powe easily fit into the lineup capwise until they return. When they return there will be have to be some roster movement, probably not before then though. There is also the possibility of someone surprising in camp - ie Lindberg, Hrivik, Fast, Hrivik, Mashinter, Big Mac... Will be interesting to watch

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07-11-2013, 07:32 AM
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A lot of interchangeable players on line combinations. Not too sure whether that is a good sign not having a solid 1st line combo or whether we are developing three lines that have a better ability to score than in years past. One thing I can see is that we will have a changing rotation of line combo's as AV gets a handle on evaluating the available personnel.
Hags Step Nash
Kreider Richards Callahan
Pouliot Brassard Zucc?
Boyle Moore Dorsett

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I'm surprised everyone has Stepan with Nash and Kreider. Personally, I thought Brassard played well with Nash last year and Stepan played well with Callahan. I would prefer:

Kreider-Brass-Nash
Hags-Stepan-Callahan
Pouliot-Richards-Zucc
Boyle-Moore-Dorsett

McDonagh-Girardi
Staal-MDZ
Moore-Stralman

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I think Nash-Stepan-Kreider has to be a top line. i mean all of them have chemistry especially kreider and stepan
The beauty is that everyone seems to have chemistry with Stepan.

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