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07-09-2013, 10:48 AM
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If the Flyers weren't on their 11th dman last year, he would've never seen the Wells Fargo Center. Sometimes desperation calls for it.

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07-09-2013, 10:56 AM
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Lauridsen was much more active than Marshall, but like I said, this isn't about Lauridsen's activity. Sure, I'd rather have a guy do something than relatively nothing at all like Marshall, but to promote Lauridsen's play is backhanded.

Lauridsen was a liability every time he wasn't pushing a guy around in front of the net. That means he was a liability along the boards, a liability in the neutral zone, a liability on the point, and more importantly, a liability with the puck.

He needs to get much better before we stick him with the NHL-worthy label.
What are you talking about? Activity? Lauridsen was more "active" because he was actually capable of doing things on the ice.

Was he a liability at times, sure. A lot of NHL defensemen can be liabilities. This beyond the point though.

You claimed Marshall was better than Lauridsen. Though this is a very minor comparison to make it really makes me question all of your hockey judgments.

Marshall may be the worst Flyer to suit up in the last five years. And yea, even with Shelley and Michael F. Leighton on that list.

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07-09-2013, 11:03 AM
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Speaking of which...Brandon Manning was the most reliable not to do stupid things and was on par or better than Lauridsen in everything outside of blocked shots...

MANNING
143.32 NHL minutes (14:16 ToI/G)
0.146 Hits/m
0.042 Blocked Shots/m
+0.000 Takeaway/m (EV)
0.000 Penalties/m

MARSHALL
87.60 NHL minutes (8:45 ToI/G)
0.091 Hits/m
0.045 Blocked Shots/m
+0.012 Takeaway/m (+1)
0.000 Penalties/m

LAURIDSEN
227.02 NHL minutes (15:08 ToI/G)
0.159 Hits/m
0.106 Blocked Shots/m
-0.053 Takeaway/m (-12)
0.075 Penalties/m

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07-09-2013, 11:06 AM
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All in all, Lauridsen may never be an NHL regular. But as one poster previously stated, its miracle he's gotten to this point given his draft status and unorthodox hockey origin.

There's something to be said about a player who can make those strides. It shows he's receptive to coaching and confident enough to be constantly working on the holes in his game. Of course, there's a limit to how much he can improve, but I believe him to have NHL level attributes.

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07-09-2013, 11:11 AM
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Speaking of which...Brandon Manning was the most reliable not to do stupid things and was on par or better than Lauridsen in everything outside of blocked shots...

MANNING
143.32 NHL minutes (14:16 ToI/G)
0.146 Hits/m
0.042 Blocked Shots/m
+0.000 Takeaway/m (EV)
0.000 Penalties/m

MARSHALL
87.60 NHL minutes (8:45 ToI/G)
0.091 Hits/m
0.045 Blocked Shots/m
+0.012 Takeaway/m (+1)
0.000 Penalties/m

LAURIDSEN
227.02 NHL minutes (15:08 ToI/G)
0.159 Hits/m
0.106 Blocked Shots/m
-0.053 Takeaway/m (-12)
0.075 Penalties/m
I fail to see how any conclusions can be ascertained from these stats.

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07-09-2013, 11:12 AM
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All in all, Lauridsen may never be an NHL regular. But as one poster previously stated, its miracle he's gotten to this point given his draft status and unorthodox hockey origin.

There's something to be said about a player who can make those strides. It shows he's receptive to coaching and confident enough to be constantly working on the holes in his game. Of course, there's a limit to how much he can improve, but I believe him to have NHL level attributes.
That's fine. I will say that it's certainly possible with the sheer amount of improvement in his game that he could become an NHL regular.

However, what I'm puzzled by is the almost cult-like status of his play even though it was for a short period of time, not demonstratively significant compared to his peers, and actually proved that he was a liability both with the puck and when getting out of position to the point where he would take penalties.

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I fail to see how any conclusions can be ascertained from these stats.
Manning and Lauridsen were both playing similar NHL minutes during their respective 10 game and 15 game stints. Both were hitting at roughly the same pace. Manning was turning the puck over far less and taking far less penalties. Lauridsen was blocking more shots. Manning was a +5 in his NHL stint. Lauridsen was EV.

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That's fine. I will say that it's certainly possible with the sheer amount of improvement in his game that he could become an NHL regular.

However, what I'm puzzled by is the almost cult-like status of his play even though it was for a short period of time, not demonstratively significant compared to his peers, and actually proved that he was a liability both with the puck and when getting out of position to the point where he would take penalties.
He's just a likeable player. When players play with his level of confidence and energy, they are bound to make some fans. Most importantly, people see a guy who's 6'6, 220... And they pray he will spontaneously transform into Pronger.

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Can the season start already?

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07-09-2013, 11:57 AM
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Presser introducing Vinny, Streit, and re-introducing Emery at 1pm, live on CSN and online here:

http://video.flyers.nhl.com/videocen...262427&lang=en

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Presser introducing Vinny, Streit, and re-introducing Emery at 1pm, live on CSN and online here:

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All 3 of them look quite sad

Edit: oh, Emery just smiled

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07-09-2013, 12:14 PM
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Bryz also looked better the last few games of the year as well, not just Mason
Huh? After Mason came in Bryz still looked like hell. He had that goal on the weak wrister where he didn't even try, for instance, and those games where it was clear he just didn't care. His Save percentage stats since the Mason acquisition were .824, .893, .750, .939, .893, .933, .955. 3 good starts, 4 bad starts. Looks like more of the usual for him.

Mason was 1.000 (In relief,doesn't really count), .903, .952, .950, .897, .951, .977. And he definitely earned those stats while facing a lot of shots.

Bryz continued his normal sucky play, Mason was noticeably better. The defense was worse, but we were getting far better goaltending from Mason.

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07-09-2013, 12:14 PM
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Ok so Schenn is playing wing according to Homer

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Homer: "I'm a huge believer in the more centers you have the better off you're gonna be"

well now we know 100% when we add a center that we should never speculate others are on the way out

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Seriously, even something like this has me pumped.

And it's over.

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Ok so Schenn is playing wing according to Homer
Go Homer.

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07-09-2013, 12:25 PM
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Seriously, even something like this has me pumped.And it's over.
I am jacked to! Really wish the season started today!

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07-09-2013, 12:26 PM
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Homer: "I'm a huge believer in the more centers you have the better off you're gonna be"

well now we know 100% when we add a center that we should never speculate others are on the way out
We have 8 NHL-caliber centers on the roster right now:

Giroux, Lecavalier, Couturier, Schenn, Read, Laughton, Talbot, and Hall.

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We have 8 NHL-caliber centers on the roster right now:

Giroux, Lecavalier, Couturier, Schenn, Read, Laughton, Talbot, and Hall.
2 per line, perfect. The guys can try and cheat on faceoffs and risk getting booted. FO% should be higher this year for all players.

edit: All but G's line. Not sure I'd call Read an NHL caliber center either.

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Huh? After Mason came in Bryz still looked like hell. He had that goal on the weak wrister where he didn't even try, for instance, and those games where it was clear he just didn't care. His Save percentage stats since the Mason acquisition were .824, .893, .750, .939, .893, .933, .955. 3 good starts, 4 bad starts. Looks like more of the usual for him.

Mason was 1.000 (In relief,doesn't really count), .903, .952, .950, .897, .951, .977. And he definitely earned those stats while facing a lot of shots.

Bryz continued his normal sucky play, Mason was noticeably better. The defense was worse, but we were getting far better goaltending from Mason.
What I really noticed was how Mason's ability to handle the puck was a big reason the team seemed to play better. His style really looked like he fit right in with the team and helped the defense breaking out of the zone. I do not know what the future holds for this team, but I like the combo the Flyers have in net this year. Plus no more drama in the room with the sideshow that Bryz brought to the team. (Do not get me started about the media).

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07-09-2013, 01:15 PM
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2 per line, perfect. The guys can try and cheat on faceoffs and risk getting booted. FO% should be higher this year for all players.

edit: All but G's line. Not sure I'd call Read an NHL caliber center either.
just do what the Bruins and other teams do. send your 2nd best FO guy in after icing and get booted intentionally.

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Awesome price, wish the term was longer.

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This is the point that is kind of missed on Lauridsen. The guy was a seventh round pick in only his second year of professional hockey last year. Late round guys usually take 3-5 years of to develop because they're often project picks. The fact that he was able to at least hang at the NHL level just three years after being drafted so low is a good indication that this guy might have an NHL future. He had no business being in the NHL last year if you go by draft status and his NHL arrival projections.
Exactly, that is our problem there!! No patience in developing these players, he was thrust into the fire from all the injuries the Flyers suffer. Yes he looks out of place at times but he did handle himself fine as he got more playing time. I would send him back to the Phantoms for 2-3 more years to let him continue to develope. You guys have to remember defenseman takes longer to develop then forwards.

We just drafted a project in Morin who's just as big as Lauridsen, only difference is Morin can skate and has some skill. Morin is just as raw as Lauridsen. Would be nice if we can finally develope these guys into serviceable defenseman. Imagine on every pairing we have a big guy playing physical and mean infront of the net. No opponent will want to crash our net then, would be a dream come true.

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