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07-10-2013, 12:32 PM
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Offensive Projections [Bumped from beginning of season]

Player G A Pts
Nash 35 35 70
Stepan 24 43 67
Callahan 28 30 58
Richards 15 35 50
Brassard 20 30 50
Hagelin 19 29 48
Del Zotto 10 35 45
McDonagh 8 30 38
Kreider 18 15 33
Zuccarello 12 20 32
Girardi 6 20 26
Staal 8 22 30
Pouliot 11 10 21
Moore 6 12 18
Stralman 6 10 16
Pyatt 6 10 16
Moore 4 10 14
Boyle 5 8 13
Dorsett 4 7 11
Falk 2 7 9
Johnson 2 5 7

My projections are based on 82 GP.

Team goals would 249. This would be 5th best in 2010-11. So I'm probably over-estimating, and likely due to injuries that are unaccounted for. What are your projections.

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07-10-2013, 01:13 PM
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Player G A Pts
Nash 40 35 75
Stepan 20 50 70
Callahan 25 35 60
Richards 20 35 55
Brassard 25 40 65
Hagelin 19 39 58
Del Zotto 12 37 49
McDonagh 8 25 33
Kreider 15 20 35
Zuccarello 18 32 50
Girardi 6 20 26
Staal 10 32 42
Pouliot 18 15 33
Moore 8 15 23
Stralman 7 12 19
Pyatt 5 10 15
Moore 10 15 25
Boyle 5 8 13
Dorsett 12 15 27
Falk 2 7 9
Johnson 2 5 7

Zucc's history with the Rangers is that he's a .50 points per game player. He's played in 67 games played he has 34 points. A full season from Zuccs playing PP minutes and I see no reason he can't get to 50 points.

I pushed quite a bit on Brassard, but like his skill set and if he finally sheds the consistency bugaboo, I see no reason he couldn't get to the 60+ point mark.

Staal showed this past season before getting hurt that he can put up points. He was trending towards a 40 point season over an 82 game set. If his eye is sound and he comes in confident, I see no reason he can't push the 40 point number.

An improved PP is sure to do wonders for MDZ's numbers. I can easily see 50 points from this kid this year.

Stepan continues to improve his point production.

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07-10-2013, 01:15 PM
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defensemen and B6 guys scoring goals? How dare you? This is the type of thinking that got us into an economic free fall in the first place.

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07-10-2013, 01:19 PM
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I can see McD having the most points among the dmen...say 45pts

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07-10-2013, 01:49 PM
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I don't think the idea that AV is going to make McD his offensive pet project is going to check out. MDZ is going to be utilized more in that offensive role a lot more still.

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07-10-2013, 01:54 PM
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I don't think the idea that AV is going to make McD his offensive pet project is going to check out. MDZ is going to be utilized more in that offensive role a lot more still.
We know he can carry the puck end to end and has a very good shot, Torts never really unleashed his offensive game, made him a shutdown, never really played the PP

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07-10-2013, 02:03 PM
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Player G A Pts
Nash 34 32 66
Stepan 23 41 64
Callahan 21 20 41
Richards 12 24 36
Brassard 12 28 40
Hagelin 18 21 39
Del Zotto 10 28 38
McDonagh 4 29 33
Kreider 12 13 25
Zuccarello 12 17 29
Girardi 5 21 26
Staal 3 14 17
Pouliot 14 10 24
D.Moore 5 8 13
Stralman 2 13 15
Pyatt 12 10 22
J.Moore 4 12 16
Boyle 8 7 15
Dorsett 4 8 12
Falk 0 4 4
Johnson 0 2 2

Total Goals: 215

This would put them around 16th place in total GF in 2011-12 and around 20th in GPG for 2013 season.

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07-10-2013, 02:03 PM
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We know he can carry the puck end to end and has a very good shot, Torts never really unleashed his offensive game, made him a shutdown, never really played the PP
I think stuff like that needs to develop and he needs to find a place for that in his game. We hold a high opinion of him but expecting him to flourish offensively but going from one year to another might be expecting the wrong thing. No doubt he'll put up points and I'm definitely not saying he can't exceed expectations this season but I think everyone here is too eager to groom him into an elite defenseman that can shut down, skate, make passes, read plays, block shots, score goals and function as PMD and a shooter in the offensive zone/PP.

The fact that everyone is still ******** on DZ despite the obvious mismatch between his game (or any of the 95% of offensive defensemen's games in the league for that matter) and Torts' defensive orientation is beyond me. If everyone calls McD, G, Staalsy 1-2 material and Stralsy and Moore 3-4 material, by contrast, DZ as a playmaking offensive d man should make a few more mistakes. It's the same thing with Henrik.... by contrast, any other goalie we ever see looks like they're trying out for the local beer league. DZ wasn't given his shot before with Torts (partly because of his immaturity and Torts' incompatibility (personality and game), and now with AV there is another shot for him to play the offensive game he's always meant to play and the offensive game from the BL that we've always lacked. McD has offensive potentials but he's perfect being at where he's at right now with or without the offensive upside. The key on the blueline is MDZ despite all the focus on the other top 3 traditionally shut down guys.

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07-10-2013, 02:16 PM
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So Richards is only going to have 2 more points in an additional 36 games? This was an abomination of a season for him and he has 34 in 46.

I'd say you're being conservative Kershaw, but some of those totals are laughable.

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07-10-2013, 02:18 PM
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So Richards is only going to have 2 more points in an additional 36 games? This was an abomination of a season for him and he has 34 in 46.

I'd say you're being conservative Kershaw, but some of those totals are laughable.
I feel that Richards is close to being finished, hence his lower point totals. Which other ones are you not content with?

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That moment when you can't tell which Moore is which Moore.

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wow. we could really use another guy who can score.

looking at it this way scares the **** out of me. we really have very few actual goal scorers.


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wow. we could really use another guy who can score.

looking at it this way scares the **** out of me. we really have very few actual goal scorers.

Yep. AV isn't a miracle worker. This team desperately needs Kreider and Richards to take steps forward and pot 20.

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OP, you're having the Rangers D go from scoring 27 goals in 10-11, 30 goals in 11-12 and a projected 27 goals over 82 games in '13 to scoring 46 goals in 13-14. Are you really expecting to see nearly a 50-75% increase in goal scoring from the backend?


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Player G A Pts
Nash 41 35 76
Stepan 26 50 76
Callahan 30 30 60
Richards 20 40 60
Brassard 15 40 55
Hagelin 20 29 49
Del Zotto 12 38 50
McDonagh 10 31 41
Kreider 16 15 31
Zuccarello 15 30 45
Girardi 5 20 25
Staal 7 25 32
Pouliot 15 15 30
D.Moore 8 12 20
Stralman 5 18 23
Pyatt 7 13 20
J.Moore 7 15 22
Boyle 8 8 16
Dorsett 8 12 20
Falk 1 5 6
Johnson 0 3 3

Total Goals: 296

didn't know how to make a table, sorry

Even though I have no doubt in my mind we WONT reach that number of goals, I think most of the goal totals are accurate :shrug:

thoughts?

Edit: I found out how to make the table as you can all see!


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07-10-2013, 02:51 PM
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OP, you're having the Rangers D go from scoring 27 goals in 10-11, 30 goals in 11-12 and a projected 27 goals over 82 games in '13 to scoring 52 goals in 13-14. Are you really expecting to see nearly a 100% increase in goal scoring from the backend?
Our D is young and getting older/more experienced. Couple that with an improved powerplay (can't get worse, right?) and I'm expecting some organic growth. That said, I overstated. Probably looking closer to 40 goals from the unit.

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Zucc is going to pot a lot more points than some of you expect.

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Zucc is going to pot a lot more points than some of you expect.
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I feel that Richards is close to being finished, hence his lower point totals. Which other ones are you not content with?
You have everyone on the team regressing, some by a significant amount in PPG except Krieder, Boyle, and Girardi.

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You have everyone on the team regressing, some by a significant amount in PPG except Krieder, Boyle, and Girardi.
don't you know? Our team sucks. With age, experience, and maturity instilled into our young core, we're destined to regress every year until everyone hits their early 30s and regress even faster because of age.

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Nash is a lock for 30+ goals and Callahan will most likely pot 20+ if healthy. After that, it's really anyone's guess.

I'd like to see Richards score at least 20 goals but who knows with him. I think Stepan is a likely candidate for 20 goals. Maybe Brassard and Hagelin flirt with 20 goals, I think they could come close.

I wouldn't be surprised if this team scored 210 goals nor would I be surprised if they scored around 240, lots of uncertainty.

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You have everyone on the team regressing, some by a significant amount in PPG except Krieder, Boyle, and Girardi.
i also factored in injuries (Callahan Hagelin out 1 month with shoulder injuries, staal's eye). Pyatt also boost from last season, Stepan higher than career PPG, Nash on par with career PPG, McDonagh tying career high in pts., etc.

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how do u make a table?

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i also factored in injuries (Callahan Hagelin out 1 month with shoulder injuries, staal's eye). Pyatt also boost from last season, Stepan higher than career PPG, Nash on par with career PPG, McDonagh tying career high in pts., etc.
Well if it's not based on 82 games then it's closer, but still quite a bit of drop off for some of these guys, I'd say conservative with a touch of pessimism. I agree I think Richards will drop off, but don't think he'll drop almost .5 a ppg worth of production. Hagelin and Callahan are close then considering injury. Think Nash will be around .85 PPG myself. Just nit picky stuff on most guys but a few of them drop off a cliff lol.

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