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07-10-2013, 08:05 AM
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Sven Baertschi book it

Dark horse: Trouba
Well he might if he was still considered a rookie...

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Brock Nelson....Big Mature center whos defensively responsible and can put the puck in the net...

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Well he might if he was still considered a rookie...
Good thing he's still considered a rookie then.

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Good thing he's still considered a rookie then.
Wasn't the rule, if you played in 25 games or more then you're not a rookie anymore?

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07-10-2013, 09:31 AM
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Wasn't the rule, if you played in 25 games or more then you're not a rookie anymore?
Has to be in a single season.

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07-10-2013, 09:32 AM
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Tomas Tatar!! (If he's in fact eligible)

Alex Chiasson is my dark horse pick

...especially if he can continue at his 0.86 GPG pace

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came to say the same. Pirri could be a dark horse and get some consideration. Wouldn't win it in the end "because he plays with Kane/Hossa/Sharp" but he could still end up as good Top6 option with 50+ points. (Big IF but could happen)



Drouin seems to be a good choice for now if he plays next to MSL and Stamkos for most of the year.


I dont get this.Pirri wont win because he will have Sharp and Hossa on his line,but Drouin will win because he has Stamkos and ST Louis on his???

I'll like Pirri's chances.A little older(22)and more seasoned than the others.Has 2yrs in AHL and led league in scoring last yr.Will be given every opportunity to succeed playing between Hossa and Sharp.He is an excellent offensive player whose biggest knock was his defense.However,according the all the reports I've read,he has improved in this area to the point that,while not a defensive whiz,he is at least competent.Plus Sharp and Hossa are 2 of the best two-way players in the game so they should make up for any deficiencies in his D.I think he's more than a dark horse and has as good a chance as anyone else.

My picks for the 3 finalists right now would be(in no particular order)Pirri,Barkov and Forsberg.

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07-10-2013, 09:35 AM
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Wasn't the rule, if you played in 25 games or more then you're not a rookie anymore?
25+ in 1 season. or 6+ in consecutive seasons

'12 5gp
'13 20gp

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07-10-2013, 09:40 AM
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Has to be in a single season.
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25+ in 1 season. or 6+ in consecutive seasons

'12 5gp
'13 20gp
thanks for the clarification

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07-10-2013, 10:07 AM
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I doubt Barkov wins the Calder. He's still got a lot to do with his physique and the fact that he doesn't get much playing done before the start of the season makes it even harder. My guess is that he scores around 20-30 points if he plays a full season. This isn't based on any data, but IMO often big players take a few more years before they get their game going (Thornton, Jokinen, even Lecavalier come to mind).

When is the last time a player won the calder in his first year after the draft, coming from Europe? (Only Landeskog comes to mind, but he played 2 years in the CHL and was as physically ready as you'll ever see a 18-year-old).
Well I'd say that outside Barkov's should injury, he's probably the most physical ready player in the entire draft. There is reason he was called the man child

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07-10-2013, 10:50 AM
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lol at Droun playing with Stamkos next year

Why would TB split up the one only good line they have of Purcell - Stamkos - St. Louis?

Obviously it will happen eventually (maybe even next season) but theres a chance Drouin doesn't even crack their roster next season just based on the amount of young talent they have on the cusp of making the NHL.

I love Drouin and might have taken him before Barkov but the only time he'll get with Stamkos (if any at all) is on the PP
Sorry, but I have to They rarely played together it was always Stamkos + one off the two. And overall Purcell only plays 3rd line minutes most of the time. Not to say our rookie line and our 2nd line weren't that bdad either.

I agree with the rest you said though.

A lot of Tampa fans expect a top6 of this:
Killorn-Stamkos-MSL
Drouin-Filppula-Panik/Purcell

We can't play a one dimensional line of Stamkos, Drouin and MSL. Killorn already played 16 minutes per game this season with 0,5 PPG. I expect him to make a serious run for the calder, as he produces Points and will even do so more this season alongside Stammer and MSL, while playing an impressive two-way game.
And Cooper loves his puck posession style, so a lot of People expect him to get really big minutes next to the big two.

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07-10-2013, 11:04 AM
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I'm gonna just guess and say Drouin.

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07-10-2013, 11:14 AM
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I think it will come down to opportunity. If Drouin is playing next to Stamkos and St. Louis I don't see how he doesn't win it. If he isn't on that line, then it's a pretty wide open race with lots of guys capable:

Bartschi
Klefbom
Trouba
Bjugstad
Mackinnon
Barkov
Toffoli

Any of them have the ability to win it if they feature prominently for their clubs.

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Nobody mentioning any Defencemen. What if one comes in and pots 40 points and logs decent minutes?

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07-10-2013, 02:33 PM
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Nobody mentioning any Defencemen. What if one comes in and pots 40 points and logs decent minutes?
Klembom, Trouba, Murray and Jones have all gotten mentions. I don't really see any other defensemen worth mentioning in Calder discussions.

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07-10-2013, 02:48 PM
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I won't be surprised if MacKinnon has 80 points next season.
lul wut?

RNH didnt even have 80 points playing with Hall and Eberle, i dont see Mackinnon getting that playing with Mcguinn and Statsny.

And i cant see Drouin playing with Stamkos next year, he would get killed on the first line.

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lul wut?

RNH didnt even have 80 points playing with Hall and Eberle, i dont see Mackinnon getting that playing with Mcguinn and Statsny.

And i cant see Drouin playing with Stamkos next year, he would get killed on the first line.
cuzz RNH is any good duh. and he doesn't pass to Hall.

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I'm gonna just guess and say Drouin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s6nf6dP7qg

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Baertschi
Drouin
Barkov

Mackinnon
Trouba
Pirri
Nelson

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lul wut?

RNH didnt even have 80 points playing with Hall and Eberle, i dont see Mackinnon getting that playing with Mcguinn and Statsny.

And i cant see Drouin playing with Stamkos next year, he would get killed on the first line.
RNH also missed games due to injury but was on pace for like 70 points in his rookie year. I consider MacKinnon a better player at the same age and is physically more suited for the NHL. If MacKinnon were playing top line minutes next year with the talented forward group that Colorado has, it really isn't outlandish to think he can pot close to 80. That being said, I think he'll get around 60 with 2nd line minutes.

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07-11-2013, 10:43 AM
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RNH also missed games due to injury but was on pace for like 70 points in his rookie year. I consider MacKinnon a better player at the same age and is physically more suited for the NHL. If MacKinnon were playing top line minutes next year with the talented forward group that Colorado has, it really isn't outlandish to think he can pot close to 80. That being said, I think he'll get around 60 with 2nd line minutes.
But he wont, he wont usurp Duchene and ROR, not in his first year.

I think he will be a better player than both, but thats in a few years. Not now.

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To everyone saying Trouba.... I honestly believe Scheifele has a better chance than him. Jets have 9-10 dmen under contract and only Trouba is waiver exempt. Unless he shoots the lights out at TC I wouldn't be surprised if he starts in the A. Scheifele however has basically been gifted a spot with Burmi leaving (unless Chevy makes more moves).

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Drouin. I could see him getting loads of PP time with St. Louis and Stamkos.

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I think MacKinnon will come out of the gate much stronger than Drouin. Drouin will be struggling at the beginning adjusting to the physicality of the NHL. He's such a smart player though once he learns what works and what doesn't in the big league he's going to start putting up points especially if he's playing with Stammer.

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Barkov is already the most talented center the Panthers have, which is sad. He'll get the big minutes that accompany a 1C at even strength, PPand PK, not to mention, the benfits of playing alongside the reigning Calder Trophy winner. And for those concerned with his adjustment to the North American rinks/style, being 6'3", 200+ lbs. goes a LONG way in that regard. It's not like Barkov is known for being soft.

Seeing as Florida will once again be expected to do nothing, no rookie will be given a longer leash.

If more folks were familiar with the situation in Sunrise, Barkov would be the runaway favorite to win the Calder.

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