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07-10-2013, 04:26 PM
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Player G A Pts
Nash 39 30 69
Stepan 22 49 72
Callahan 31 26 57
Richards 18 38 56
Brassard 16 33 49
Hagelin 21 25 46
Del Zotto 13 32 45
McDonagh 8 25 33
Kreider 15 15 30
Zuccarello 17 30 47
Girardi 9 12 21
Staal 12 15 27
Pouliot 8 14 22
Moore 12 10 22
Stralman 5 8 13
Pyatt 8 7 15
Moore 10 10 20
Boyle 12 13 25
Dorsett 7 9 18

Based on 82 games

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07-10-2013, 04:32 PM
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Player G A Pts
Nash 34 34 68
Stepan 22 45 67
Callahan 21 25 46
Richards 14 38 52
Brassard 18 32 50
Hagelin 18 26 44
Del Zotto 13 32 45
McDonagh 8 25 33
Kreider 17 12 29
Zuccarello 17 31 48
Girardi 9 12 21
Staal 10 18 28
Pouliot 10 12 22
Moore 10 12 22
Stralman 5 8 13
Pyatt 8 7 15
Moore 10 18 28
Boyle 10 13 23
Dorsett 7 9 18

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07-10-2013, 05:14 PM
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Well if it's not based on 82 games then it's closer, but still quite a bit of drop off for some of these guys, I'd say conservative with a touch of pessimism. I agree I think Richards will drop off, but don't think he'll drop almost .5 a ppg worth of production. Hagelin and Callahan are close then considering injury. Think Nash will be around .85 PPG myself. Just nit picky stuff on most guys but a few of them drop off a cliff lol.
i made a poll on the main boards ranking where the Rangers offense is, most voted around 15th-20th. I don't see a problem considering my goal production is on par with that ranking (16th in GPG in 2011-12, 20th in GPG in 2013)

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07-10-2013, 08:31 PM
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That moment when you can't tell which Moore is which Moore.
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07-10-2013, 08:37 PM
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07-10-2013, 08:43 PM
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Player G A Pts
Nash 37 44 81
Stepan 22 50 72
Callahan 18 24 42
Richards 22 41 63
Brassard 18 30 48
Hagelin 13 24 37
Del Zotto 14 37 51
McDonagh 8 33 41
Kreider 20 15 35
Zuccarello 11 27 38
Girardi 5 17 22
Staal 8 23 31
Pouliot 8 12 20
Moore 10 12 22
Stralman 3 8 11
Pyatt 9 11 20
Moore 7 18 25
Boyle 6 15 21
Dorsett 5 9 14
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07-10-2013, 08:54 PM
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Nitpicking, but both Rick Nash and Ryan Callahan have a history of putting up more goals than assists.

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07-10-2013, 08:59 PM
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Nitpicking, but both Rick Nash and Ryan Callahan have a history of putting up more goals than assists.
thats cus nash had no support and offense was Nash-centric and under Torts, our offense wasn't exactly balanced and structured either.

Also, Callahan over steps his bounds as a third line grinder by scoring all those goals so. That third liner.

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07-10-2013, 09:15 PM
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Player G A Pts
Nash 38 38 76
Stepan 25 38 63
Richards 20 34 54
Brassard 22 28 50
Zuccarello 19 26 45
Callahan 23 22 45
Kreider 22 20 42
Del Zotto 9 32 41
McDonagh 7 31 38
Hagelin 16 22 38
J. Moore 7 29 36
Boyle 18 16 34
Girardi 4 24 28
Pyatt 11 16 27
Stralman 10 14 24
Staal 3 18 21
Dorsett 9 9 18
D. Moore 5 11 16
Pouliot 4 7 11

Don't expect Hagelin or Callahan to play a full season.

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07-10-2013, 09:32 PM
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thats cus nash had no support and offense was Nash-centric and under Torts, our offense wasn't exactly balanced and structured either.

Also, Callahan over steps his bounds as a third line grinder by scoring all those goals so. That third liner.
How dare he score those goals! Those are for other players! Legitimate top six players, like David Clarkson!

I think both will continue to have another goal or two more than assists

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07-10-2013, 09:34 PM
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You have everyone on the team regressing, some by a significant amount in PPG except Krieder, Boyle, and Girardi.
There are two possible explanations for that.

1) He's an eternal pessimist, almost all of his posts are pessimistic, so he believes this.

2) He doesn't believe it, but he can't be optimistic in his predictions after being pessimistic year round.

Probably #1, I've never met a bigger pessimist than him.

Brassard had 41 points in 59 games last year and that's not even mentioning that he was nearly PPG for the team that he will actually be playing on. So the idea that he was always a 40 point player goes out the window when he does it in 59 games. But of course it's Kershaw, he won't be happy till he's miserable.

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07-10-2013, 09:54 PM
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Nash - 35/35
Stepan - 20/45
Callahan - 25/25
Richards - 15/45
Brassard - 15/35
Hagelin - 20/25
Kreider - 20/15
Zucca - 10/30
Pouliot - 10/15
Moore - 5/15
Pyatt - 5/15
Boyle - 5/10
Dorsett - 5/10

MDZ - 10/35
McDonagh - 5/25
Girardi - 5/25
Staal - 5/20
Stralman - 5/10
Moore - 5/15
Johnson - 1/5
Falk - 1/5


227 goals which would've ranked us 13th in NHL 2 seasons ago.

Didn't include Asham and Powe. We could also get minor contributions from Miller, Mash and some of the A guys.

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07-10-2013, 09:58 PM
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i made a poll on the main boards ranking where the Rangers offense is, most voted around 15th-20th. I don't see a problem considering my goal production is on par with that ranking (16th in GPG in 2011-12, 20th in GPG in 2013)
You realize the kind of people who vote in those polls right? Irregardless, doesn't matter. I don't see everyone on the team regressing, and basing point production off an HF poll is just silly. But to each their own.

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There are two possible explanations for that.

1) He's an eternal pessimist, almost all of his posts are pessimistic, so he believes this.

2) He doesn't believe it, but he can't be optimistic in his predictions after being pessimistic year round.

Probably #1, I've never met a bigger pessimist than him.

Brassard had 41 points in 59 games last year and that's not even mentioning that he was nearly PPG for the team that he will actually be playing on. So the idea that he was always a 40 point player goes out the window when he does it in 59 games. But of course it's Kershaw, he won't be happy till he's miserable.
Maybe he's afraid he will jinx them if he shows any semblance of positivity? IDK.

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07-10-2013, 10:34 PM
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Probably #1, I've never met a bigger pessimist than him.

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Speak for yourself man. Lundqvist is the Melo of Goalies, rather start Biron, a playoff choker, etc.

if it makes you guys happier, I predict this team to be top 5 in least GA this season. That should effectively put them at around 95-100 pts in the standings.

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07-10-2013, 10:38 PM
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Speak for yourself man. Lundqvist is the Melo of Goalies, rather start Biron, a playoff choker, etc.

if it makes you guys happier, I predict this team to be top 5 in least GA this season. That should effectively put them at around 95-100 pts in the standings.
Uh, Kersh, no offense, but didn't you just win HFNYR's most pessimistic by a landslide?

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07-10-2013, 10:39 PM
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Uh, Kersh, no offense, but didn't you just win HFNYR's most pessimistic by a landslide?
nope.

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07-10-2013, 10:39 PM
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nope.
Most opinionated? I know you got something.

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07-10-2013, 10:40 PM
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Most opinionated? I know you got something.
correct.

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07-10-2013, 11:05 PM
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Not sure why people are putting Pouliot down for 20-25 points; barring an injury I'd almost guarantee he's easily going to top 35.

10/11 & 11/12 he surpassed 30 playing about 12 minutes a game, zero PP time, as well as missing a few games.

Scored at a .58 PPG pace last year (albeit with better linemates at times then he'll find on the Rangers), once again with zero PP time.

This guy will likely be the one shuffled in for Callahan/Hagelin while they are out with injuries, and IMO is not that far of a longshot to get top 6 minutes.

Obviously he's pretty inconsistent (which is why he ended up here on the contract he got), but he's going to get a chance to play on a line with a center that can dish it and he's no stranger to scoring inside the hash marks.

I think he turns out to be what everyone thought Pyatt was going to be based off the first 5~ games last year.

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07-10-2013, 11:36 PM
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You realize the kind of people who vote in those polls right? Irregardless, doesn't matter. I don't see everyone on the team regressing, and basing point production off an HF poll is just silly. But to each their own.
The kind of people? Yeah, unbiased spectators for the most part giving an honest thought on the team. For sure the main boards can get quite irrational at times, but I was simply curious on what the majority of posters thought on the Rangers forward corps and for the most part, I believe most voted around 15th-20th.

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07-10-2013, 11:44 PM
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Player G A Pts
Nash 41 27 68
Stepan 22 47 70
Callahan 26 24 50
Richards 15 38 53
Brassard 16 37 53
Hagelin 17 25 42
Del Zotto 9 32 41
McDonagh 11 31 42
Kreider 15 15 30
Zuccarello 12 36 48
Girardi 7 19 26
Staal 8 23 31
Pouliot 12 17 29
Moore 12 10 22
Stralman 5 13 18
Pyatt 5 10 15
Moore 6 14 20
Boyle 7 13 20
Dorsett 5 9 14

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07-10-2013, 11:59 PM
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I do this every year and overestimate with my glass half full outlook.

Not doing it this time.

I feel like Kristo will be involved somewhere along the line, though

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07-11-2013, 12:13 AM
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first we have to see where guys are going to play before we can make predictions like this dont we? like is Richards gonna get a shot at the 1c or play 3c? etc.

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07-11-2013, 03:28 AM
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The Rangers should easily be in the top 7 teams offensively this year. It was disgusting how much Torts held this team back offensively. His system was completely incompetent. He essentially had the team playing the PK all game.

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07-11-2013, 04:41 AM
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Provided everyone stays healthy and plays a full season

Nash 33-30-63

Stepan 23-41-64

Callahan 20-18-38

Richards 22-31-53

Hagelin 11-23-34

Kreider 15-10-25

Brassard 14-31-45

Pouliot 15-8-23

Zuccarello 9-30-39

Moore 3-10-13

Boyle 8-10-18

Dorsett 5-12-17

McDonagh 9-35-44

Girardi 7-22- 29

Staal 5- 20-25

Del Zotto 8-34-42

Moore 4-13-17

Stralman 4-10-14

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