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07-11-2013, 02:36 AM
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Improving the powerplay?

Have any of the personnel changes improved our powerplay? Or is it still the system in place.

Will it get better next season?

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07-11-2013, 03:06 AM
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Its been 4 years. At some point it stops being about the players, its the coach.


We fix the pp, we become a more dangerous team. If that means getting a new pp coach in there, which IMO needs to happen, then so be it.

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07-11-2013, 03:09 AM
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Its been 4 years. At some point it stops being about the players, its the coach.


We fix the pp, we become a more dangerous team. If that means getting a new pp coach in there, which IMO needs to happen, then so be it.
Pretty much sums up how I feel perfectly.

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Looked alright when Krug and Hamilton were on it together in the playoffs. I think the movement those 2 instigate sort of forces everybody else down low to get their ***** moving as well + they both seem to get their shots threw and always have 1 eye on a pass. Pretty rare talent. If it were my call, those 2 wouldn't come off the ice for the whole PP.

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I really hope that take Big Z off the PP this year. I think replacing him with some of the young D would inprove our PP and also the less minutes would improve Chara's overall play.

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No personnel changes. Focus on one thing: Decision making. Krug on the PP will help us a lot, IMHO.

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I think Chara on the pp has been our biggest problem...hopefully we have enough options now that clode keeps big z on the bench when we have the man advantage.

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I think Chara on the pp has been our biggest problem...hopefully we have enough options now that clode keeps big z on the bench when we have the man advantage.
agreed.
he just doesnt have the hands to be at the point on a power play.
plus he cant bring the puck up.
think of all the minutes it would save him too.

krug, hamilton and bartowski are guys that have the hands, and mobility to play the point on the power play. 4th point man i would put either iginla, bergeron or krejci

i think iginla will help on the off wing too. because he can actually connect on a one-timer. unlike any other Bruin since Neely. He also will just shoot the puck instead of standing still with it.

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I think the PP is going to be better. It looked it's best this post-season when Krug and Hamilton were involved and they're both going to be back.

I also think Iginla could have a real positive impact. He's a big-time PP producer (20-30 pts/season) who's going to spray the net with shots. In the past, it seemed like all of our PP guys would hold onto the puck that extra second or make that extra pass instead of shooting. It'll be nice to have a no-hesitation trigger man out there.

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PP1
Iginla - Bergeron - Eriksson
Hamilton - Krug

PP2
Lucic - Soderberg - Marchand
Krejci - Bart

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No Horton will help, guy took forever to release a puck, Eriksson I have to think won`t have that hesitation. As Bill mentioned, Krug and Hamilton left me very optimistic about the PP, and we can say all we want about Iggy, but he`ll stand in front of the net and STAY THERE, not shift to the side when a shot is coming in.

I wonder what the PP would be like if CJ and Co just let the boys play, use their talents to come up with something??? Hands down, the PP is the major coaching issue I have with Julien or whoever is running that joke

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Its been 4 years. At some point it stops being about the players, its the coach.


We fix the pp, we become a more dangerous team. If that means getting a new pp coach in there, which IMO needs to happen, then so be it.
I think ultimately in the end it falls on the head coach. But regardless your right he either steps in and makes adjustments or finds the right guy to be in charge of it. I remember Belichek going through a similar thing.

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I think ultimately in the end it falls on the head coach. But regardless your right he either steps in and makes adjustments or finds the right guy to be in charge of it. I remember Belichek going through a similar thing.
Nope... Case in point?


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Agree wholeheartedly with sitting Z on the PP. It's time to start reducing his minutes in, what hopefully, is a long season.

With the advent of Krug, coupled with the anticipated improvement of Dougie, the PP can be vastly more mobile, and successful.

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The PP was good in the playoffs. Hope that trend continues

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I wouldn't move Z off the powerplay. I'd just move him to the front of the net on the 2nd unit.

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i really don't get why people keep going back to the D for the PP woes....

Hamilton and krug and skate 'around' as much as they want, but if the forwards don't do the same, nothing is going to change.

its the passive cycle by the forwards and/or the stationary forwards that's the biggest problem.

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We've missed Savvy setting up shop on the half wall. No one has replaced that aspect of the PP.

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i really don't get why people keep going back to the D for the PP woes....

Hamilton and krug and skate 'around' as much as they want, but if the forwards don't do the same, nothing is going to change.

its the passive cycle by the forwards and/or the stationary forwards that's the biggest problem.

Totally disagree. Hard for the forwards to skate when the defensemen at the point are stationary and poor stick-handlers in a tight space. When a forward moves. The defenseman has to move into the spot he vacated. You can't put that on the forwards. Sure, the forwards could be better. We don't really have an elite power-play specialist. I'm hoping Iginla and Eriksson man the wings.
With Krejci at center. Krug and Dougie at the points.

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Nope... Case in point?

The point? I'll rephrase if the pp isn't working it falls on the head coach. I'm not bashing Julien, but I'm guessing Julien has authority over Ward and most likely picked him to coach it.

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The PP was good in the playoffs. Hope that trend continues
No it wasn't. It was better than it was in the regular season, but that's not really saying much, is it?

Regular season: PP% 14.8, good for 26th in the league
Playoffs: PP% 17.5, which would have put them 17th in the league if they'd converted at that rate in the regular season. Even in the playoffs, they were still only 8th out of 16 teams regarding PP%.

That's just not good enough, and it doesn't matter who they have manning it, because they fundamental goal of their PP is what's flawed. They want to work it back to the point for the shot and hope for a tip or screen. Good PP units work it down low. Until they make a shift in that basic philosophy, they're going to be marginal at best, IMO, regardless of who they get to play on the PP.

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No it wasn't. It was better than it was in the regular season, but that's not really saying much, is it?

Regular season: PP% 14.8, good for 26th in the league
Playoffs: PP% 17.5, which would have put them 17th in the league if they'd converted at that rate in the regular season. Even in the playoffs, they were still only 8th out of 16 teams regarding PP%.

That's just not good enough, and it doesn't matter who they have manning it, because they fundamental goal of their PP is what's flawed. They want to work it back to the point for the shot and hope for a tip or screen. Good PP units work it down low. Until they make a shift in that basic philosophy, they're going to be marginal at best, IMO, regardless of who they get to play on the PP.
It was over 20% in the Final and was substantially better after the 1st round when Krug drew into the lineup.

From where I was watching it looked to me like they started working the puck down low a lot more than they had done in the reg season and years past.

A PP goal in G6 would have been nice, but it never happened, but CHI's goalie taking his helmet off when the Bruins had the puck and then a phantom glove pass didn't help either.

From what I saw of the PP in the playoffs, I'm encouraged for this upcoming season.

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That's just not good enough, and it doesn't matter who they have manning it, because they fundamental goal of their PP is what's flawed. They want to work it back to the point for the shot and hope for a tip or screen. Good PP units work it down low. Until they make a shift in that basic philosophy, they're going to be marginal at best, IMO, regardless of who they get to play on the PP.
AGREED.

I can't stand watching it anymore. My blood boils. Shoot from the blueline and hope for a tip. Its terrible. Change the philosophy and we shall profit.

Though Clode always downplays the pp woes. And that's an issue for me. Bud, its been non exsistanr for 4 years. Tell Ward he's fired and move on. Pretending that it'll eventually get fixed is killing the team.

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The point? I'll rephrase if the pp isn't working it falls on the head coach. I'm not bashing Julien, but I'm guessing Julien has authority over Ward and most likely picked him to coach it.
My point is also simple: Whatever the coach, if the players don't execute, nothing will happen.

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