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07-11-2013, 09:37 AM
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Ben Duffy signs with the Dogs!

Congrats Ben...that game DID pay off finally...

A 2-way contract AHL/ECHL with the Dogs!

https://twitter.com/PatrickCaisse/st...34617567465472

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07-11-2013, 09:39 AM
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I can tell with his name he's never going to play in the NHL. Still, congrats!

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He has to make the NHL for the Duff man jokes...

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Congrats to Ben!

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Nice pickup for the dogs.

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If I remember correctly, you were impressed by this guy at the development camp, Whitesnake?

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Probably a career AHLer, but hopefully a good one. Good luck to him.

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Good to see that the try-out this year were good enough to get a contract

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If I remember correctly, you were impressed by this guy at the development camp, Whitesnake?
Well last game was a stellar game. Probably the best game I've seen a forward play in a scrimmage. Mind you, it was just that, so in no way does it pencil him as a top 10 scorer for next year. But he deserve it.

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Probably a career AHLer, but hopefully a good one. Good luck to him.
Surely. I will never think Ben Duffy could be anymore, at best, as another Ben Maxwell. And as far as I'm concerned, Maxwell isn't a NHL prospect. Yet, this deal is great one. You could even see Duffy starting in the ECHL and give the Dogs some very good depth.

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Good to see that the try-out this year were good enough to get a contract
This year was CLEARLY the most logical and beset list of invitations since the beginning of guys being invited....and it shows. Honestly, there are other guys I could have even see getting contracts. But there are limitations to rosters....Yet, Wheeling should be all over some of those guys.

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This year was CLEARLY the most logical and beset list of invitations since the beginning of guys being invited....and it shows. Honestly, there are other guys I could have even see getting contracts. But there are limitations to rosters....Yet, Wheeling should be all over some of those guys.
I think it was you that was really impressed with Matt Murphy. I was really surprised that he wasn't drafted. I think he'd be great value next year as a mid rd pick.

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I think it was you that was really impressed with Matt Murphy. I was really surprised that he wasn't drafted. I think he'd be great value next year as a mid rd pick.
We will surely watch his progression in the upcoming year. Seems that it's more in the head than in the skates. We'll see how he handles that.

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Just read the Bulldogs press release about this signing, I was shocked to see his stats Regular Season vs. Playoffs Production... Not sure how he is going to fare against tougher competition in the AHL/ECHL. Hopefully he can adapt to this new game and help our farm teams.

"In five seasons with the PEI Rocket, Duffy compiled 341 points (139 goals, 202 assists) and 18 penalty minutes in 334 regular season games and eight points (five goals, three assists) in 19 post-season games."

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He has to make the NHL for the Duff man jokes...
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Just read the Bulldogs press release about this signing, I was shocked to see his stats Regular Season vs. Playoffs Production... Not sure how he is going to fare against tougher competition in the AHL/ECHL. Hopefully he can adapt to this new game and help our farm teams.

"In five seasons with the PEI Rocket, Duffy compiled 341 points (139 goals, 202 assists) and 18 penalty minutes in 334 regular season games and eight points (five goals, three assists) in 19 post-season games."
There is NO Doubt that he needs to implicate himself in the play more. Now, as far as regular vs playoffs, well in the Q....playoffs for bottom teams are way more tougher than in the NHL, In the year he was in the playoffs, Duffy and his team played against those guys:

2008-2009: Moncton vs PEI. Moncton had 102 points, PEI 62 points.
2009-2010: St.John vs PEI. St.John with 109 points, PEI 78 points. St.John lost in the Finals.
2010-2011: Shawinigan vs PET. Shawinigan was better, but much closer matchup. 3 points in 5 games for Duffy.
2012-2013: Val D'Or vs PEI: PEI should have had this...still 4 points in 6 games. 2 other with 5 points, tons with 4 points.

Let's be positive and say that in his final 2 years...he had 7 points in 11 games. It's his 1 point in the first 8 games of his first 2 years that screws those stats.

Mind you, again, not entirely defending him....there's a reason why he was a ND for me in his draft year and beyond.....But a 1-year AHL-ECHL contract for him....with the season he had, the show he put on this week especially on the last day, he deserves it. Time to show he can upgrade his play.

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Just read the Bulldogs press release about this signing, I was shocked to see his stats Regular Season vs. Playoffs Production... Not sure how he is going to fare against tougher competition in the AHL/ECHL. Hopefully he can adapt to this new game and help our farm teams.

"In five seasons with the PEI Rocket, Duffy compiled 341 points (139 goals, 202 assists) and 18 penalty minutes in 334 regular season games and eight points (five goals, three assists) in 19 post-season games."
PEI never really had a good team the whole time he was there. They didn't make the playoffs or got trashed in 4 games by a more superior team in the 1st round. Last playoffs they had a chance in the 1st round but after all those years of losing, it looked like they didn't know how to react.

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This year was CLEARLY the most logical and beset list of invitations since the beginning of guys being invited....and it shows. Honestly, there are other guys I could have even see getting contracts. But there are limitations to rosters....Yet, Wheeling should be all over some of those guys.
Is there limits to how many AHL contract Montreal signs??? I now there is a limit of 50 NHL contracts.

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Is there limits to how many AHL contract Montreal signs??? I now there is a limit of 50 NHL contracts.
I have no idea. Not a cap specialist, I'd say that there are no limits...but somebody might come in here and confirm. By the way, I know what you mean but just want to say it's not Montreal who signs them to AHL contracts...it's Hamilton. Same guys....I know but just to say that it's officially coming from the AHL team itself. Not sure if Carrière still is the Hamilton GM or if Bergevin has both roles now.

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I really like how Montreal is trying to build depth with there farm teams. It one thing to want NHL depth, but to also build depth on the farm teams I think is very intelligent. Maybe these guys only become career AHL players but I believe they will also push the guys that have NHL talent.....to me this is a win win situation

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I really like how Montreal is trying to build depth with there farm teams. It one thing to want NHL depth, but to also build depth on the farm teams I think is very intelligent. Maybe these guys only become career AHL players but I believe they will also push the guys that have NHL talent.....to me this is a win win situation
That's the way to do things now, that's what Chiarelli was able to accomplish in Boston. Both the Bruins and their AHL teams are very very competitive. Glad were starting to see positive changes here

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I really like how Montreal is trying to build depth with there farm teams. It one thing to want NHL depth, but to also build depth on the farm teams I think is very intelligent. Maybe these guys only become career AHL players but I believe they will also push the guys that have NHL talent.....to me this is a win win situation
You have to create a winning environment throughout all levels of your organization, from top to bottom. It's nice they finally realize this.

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I have no idea. Not a cap specialist, I'd say that there are no limits...but somebody might come in here and confirm. By the way, I know what you mean but just want to say it's not Montreal who signs them to AHL contracts...it's Hamilton. Same guys....I know but just to say that it's officially coming from the AHL team itself. Not sure if Carrière still is the Hamilton GM or if Bergevin has both roles now.
Ooh very true...yes I did not think of it as 2 different teams. So then it would be the rules of the AHL that would govern how many AHL contracts Hamilton signs. Thanks for the info

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Ooh very true...yes I did not think of it as 2 different teams. So then it would be the rules of the AHL that would govern how many AHL contracts Hamilton signs. Thanks for the info
Yet, most teams won,t sign too many of those contracts mostly based on the fact that the goal is always to let their young kids play. But them that sucked in development, can signed whoever they want to fill up their roster. And then, they could sign guys to make them play in the ECHL for depth purpose. Yet, you will believe that most players will always prefer to have a AHL contracts instead of a 2-way Duffy style unless they don't have a choice...like Ben did.

Not sure if the ECHL leading scorer is still available....If I'm the Dogs I do offer Mathieu Roy a contract. Making MacAulay and Duffy ECHL'ers and great depth for the team.

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I have no idea. Not a cap specialist, I'd say that there are no limits...but somebody might come in here and confirm. By the way, I know what you mean but just want to say it's not Montreal who signs them to AHL contracts...it's Hamilton. Same guys....I know but just to say that it's officially coming from the AHL team itself. Not sure if Carrière still is the Hamilton GM or if Bergevin has both roles now.
I looked in on it when I was reading up on the AHL when the NHL wasn't going on.

There doesn't seem to be any practical limit on how many guys can be committed to an AHL team. For example, the Toronto Marlies seemed to carry about 30 guys on their roster this past season. This is an advantage for teams like Montreal who have full control of their AHL teams.

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I looked in on it when I was reading up on the AHL when the NHL wasn't going on.

There doesn't seem to be any practical limit on how many guys can be committed to an AHL team. For example, the Toronto Marlies seemed to carry about 30 guys on their roster this past season. This is an advantage for teams like Montreal who have full control of their AHL teams.
I wonder then who pays the players at the AHL level. The Hamilton Bulldogs owner or the Molson family???

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