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07-11-2013, 04:10 PM
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Trade with NJD?

Anyone think we might be able to gain some cap spaceand strengthen the D further by taking advantage of the NJD's situation?

I'm not too knowledgeable about how they feel about him, but I'd love to get Adam Larsson from them, if the expectation would be that he could be re-signed. Or Volchenkov, although he obviously wouldn't provide salary relief.

Schenn for Larsson? Pieces to add on either side?

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07-11-2013, 04:12 PM
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No. We should stay the course and continue to build within. Don't help them out. Let them rot.

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We aren't getting Larsson and Volchenkov sucks

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07-11-2013, 04:21 PM
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IMO the Flyers don't need defense now and they will be getting some help from the young guys in a 2-4 yrs, maybe sooner (Hagg). There is absolutely no need to move any of the young guys now or in the immediate future unless they are getting a #1. So my answer is no.

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07-11-2013, 05:11 PM
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Why would they trade Larsson?

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Why would they trade Larsson?
I doubt they would now. I don't think a rebuild is out of the question for now. Henrique & Larsson would be the likely guys to build around.

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07-11-2013, 05:39 PM
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We've got our own young Swedish d man to look forward to. No need to trade for Larsson. It would never happen anyway. You don't help division rivals.

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we'll never make a significant trade with a division rival

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07-11-2013, 07:23 PM
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I guess I'm missing a step. They lose Kovalchuk. ... Then they trade Larsson to the Flyers.

Not following.

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Anyone think we might be able to gain some cap spaceand strengthen the D further by taking advantage of the NJD's situation?

I'm not too knowledgeable about how they feel about him, but I'd love to get Adam Larsson from them, if the expectation would be that he could be re-signed. Or Volchenkov, although he obviously wouldn't provide salary relief.

Schenn for Larsson? Pieces to add on either side?
Screw the bevs.

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We should be in the business of enjoying their misery, not helping them rebuild their offense while hoping the defense we gets back compensates for what we give them.

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Wow! Devils got screwed royally....Kovi leaving the NHL and team, they lost their #1 pick for 2014 for Kovi's trade and lost Parise because they couldn't fit both salaries on the team
Now Jersey has to scramble to find some offensive talent like Kovi...GL.
Do the Devils still have to pay Kovi part of his salary as well?
That hurts.

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Wow! Devils got screwed royally....Kovi leaving the NHL and team, they lost their #1 pick for 2014 for Kovi's trade and lost Parise because they couldn't fit both salaries on the team
Now Jersey has to scramble to find some offensive talent like Kovi...GL.
Do the Devils still have to pay Kovi part of his salary as well?
That hurts.
no, but he still carries a $250k cap hit for the duration of his contract

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we'll never make a significant trade with a division rival
With the realignment, that removes a quarter of the teams in the NHL. I don't think we'll see any major trades within the division but it really limits your trading partners if we don't consider trades to the teams we don't see as a threat now that we just added 3 more teams to our division.

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no, but he still carries a $250k cap hit for the duration of his contract
I was curious because they said if Pronger retired from the Flyers his salary would still count against the cap. That's why the Flyers still go with LTIR rather than retirement. Why doesn't this happen with Kovi as well?

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I don't at all mind trading with any of the other 29 teams, provided that the Flyers improve as a team in both the short and long term. As well, against a division rival, if a significant injury can be subtlely introduced in such a way that it wouldn't be traceable back to the Flyer organization, that's a bonus.

"The Pittsburgh Penguins announce that defenseman Brayden Coburn, whom they obtained for prospect Derrick Pouliot and a 2nd round pick in 2014, will miss the remainder of the season after a baffling development of smallpox."

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I was curious because they said if Pronger retired from the Flyers his salary would still count against the cap. That's why the Flyers still go with LTIR rather than retirement. Why doesn't this happen with Kovi as well?
Because Kovys contract isn't a 35+ contract.

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I doubt they would now. I don't think a rebuild is out of the question for now. Henrique & Larsson would be the likely guys to build around.
Yea, until they both leave via FA or retire.

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I was curious because they said if Pronger retired from the Flyers his salary would still count against the cap. That's why the Flyers still go with LTIR rather than retirement. Why doesn't this happen with Kovi as well?
They won't have to pay him but his salary will count against the cap because he is a 35+ contract.

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I don't at all mind trading with any of the other 29 teams, provided that the Flyers improve as a team in both the short and long term. As well, against a division rival, if a significant injury can be subtlely introduced in such a way that it wouldn't be traceable back to the Flyer organization, that's a bonus.

"The Pittsburgh Penguins announce that defenseman Brayden Coburn, whom they obtained for prospect Derrick Pouliot and a 2nd round pick in 2014, will miss the remainder of the season after a baffling development of smallpox."
Yikes. Maybe we should "help" him "accidentally" acquire a disease that, you know, won't cause a worldwide health crisis.

Otherwise, good plan!

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Yikes. Maybe we should "help" him "accidentally" acquire a disease that, you know, won't cause a worldwide health crisis.

Otherwise, good plan!
Fine, Mr. Bleeding Heart. Maybe a nice intestinal parasitic infestation he could share with the rest of the locker room.

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I was curious because they said if Pronger retired from the Flyers his salary would still count against the cap. That's why the Flyers still go with LTIR rather than retirement. Why doesn't this happen with Kovi as well?
It would difficult to explain why a player listed on the Long Term Injured Reserve is playing professional hockey in another country.

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It would difficult to explain why a player listed on the Long Term Injured Reserve is playing professional hockey in another country.
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we'll never make a significant trade with a division rival
Umm... hello? Kris Newbury? Gonna take the Phantoms from worst to first!

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