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10-27-2006, 06:32 PM
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Typically Montreal media...blow things WAY out of proportion.
Well you have to admit Carbo helped a bit.
I don't see the Bonk line as a demotion myself. I wouldn't be surprised to learn it has more ice time than the 2nd line. Carbo could have come out and said we want 3 scoring lines (1a,1b,1c) and Sammy fits better on our 1c line. Saying (to the media) he's going on our 4th line is asking for trouble but maybe it helped get his message (to Sammy) across better.

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10-27-2006, 07:28 PM
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News without quotation = No credibility
RDS = No credibility

Rds is a joke.
http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/215901.html

Did you read the entire article ?

QUOTE FROM RDS ; FROM THURSDAY , THE OTHER ONES ( TSN AND CANOE ) ARE FROM FRIDAY .

Is the letter that his agent sent to Gainey is considered as a bad source , to say that if the situation doesn't change , he will ask a trade ?

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10-27-2006, 07:46 PM
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If Sammy wanted to whine, he really shoulda signed with those idiots down the road in blue. He'd have fit right in.

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10-27-2006, 09:47 PM
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Samsonov downplays talk, hopes to stay
MONTREAL (CP) - Sergei Samsonov isn't asking out of Montreal, he just wants to play more.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=182093&hubname=

From the above listed article:

"Samsonov has talked about the commitment he made to the Canadiens, which includes buying former Montreal goaltender Jose Theodore's house."

That must be it - he is now cursed from living in Theo's house.

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10-27-2006, 09:51 PM
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From the above listed article:

"Samsonov has talked about the commitment he made to the Canadiens, which includes buying former Montreal goaltender Jose Theodore's house."

That must be it - he is now cursed from living in Theo's house.
Dags keeps dropping by at all hours of the night.

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10-27-2006, 11:05 PM
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News without quotation = No credibility
RDS = No credibility

Rds is a joke.

You're called Lenny Webster and you're calling RDS a joke?!?

Actually, the story ran in the Boston Globe also.

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10-27-2006, 11:06 PM
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From the above listed article:

"Samsonov has talked about the commitment he made to the Canadiens, which includes buying former Montreal goaltender Jose Theodore's house."

That must be it - he is now cursed from living in Theo's house.
He should worry about the stairs during winter time. (Twilight Zone music).

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10-28-2006, 12:27 AM
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Dags keeps dropping by at all hours of the night.

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10-28-2006, 10:18 AM
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RDS- Samsonov may ask for a trade

http://rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/215937.html

This is not looking good..

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didn't he just say yesterday that he wanted to stay here? RDS just tries to stir **** up I think

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To tell you the honest truth, I don't care. His agent is just making waves.. noone's going to trade for him, anyway.

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10-28-2006, 10:41 AM
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10-28-2006, 10:42 AM
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didn't he just say yesterday that he wanted to stay here? RDS just tries to stir **** up I think
That can't be. They'd never do that. They're professionals.

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10-28-2006, 10:46 AM
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Old news from 2 days ago. There were developments after that and RDS decided to leave out of their article. Very unprofessional. Did you wonder why TSN has a completely different spin on an article printed yesterday?

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if this is the truth...i looove those russian primadonnas

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"L'agent de Samsonov a même laissé entendre que son client pourrait demander une transaction si la situation n'était pas corrigée."


sammy is gone for sure!






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10-28-2006, 10:56 AM
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Old news from 2 days ago. There were developments after that and RDS decided to leave out of their article. Very unprofessional. Did you wonder why TSN has a completely different spin on an article printed yesterday?
It's not unprofessional...they were telling a fact!

-Samsonov is unhappy with the situation
-He can understand the situation
-He's still not really happy
-If he can't have a bigger role on the team, he might ask for a trade

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10-28-2006, 11:11 AM
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It's not unprofessional...they were telling a fact!

-Samsonov is unhappy with the situation
-He can understand the situation
-He's still not really happy
-If he can't have a bigger role on the team, he might ask for a trade
It is in fact VERY unprofessional. Of course it happened, but they leave out some inportant facts in order to keep the controversy going. They only report this, and it happened 2 days ago:

"L'attaquant Sergei Samsonov ne s'est pas caché cette semaine pour exprimer son mécontentement face à la décision de son entraîneur de la muter sur le troisième trio. L'agent de Samsonov a même laissé entendre que son client pourrait demander une transaction si la situation n'était pas corrigée."

They say nothing of the fact that Samsonov said his first priority is to stay in montreal and that he's hoping it works and looking forward to the 2 years. When he was asked directly if he wanted out, he said "not at this point, no". TSN reported it so why would RDS leave that out? It's normal Samsonov was upset at the possibility of playing on the 4th line. I would be way more worried if he wasn't. At least Demers on RDS had the presence to say this is all a mountain made out of a mole hill.

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10-28-2006, 11:12 AM
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Samsonov and Dandenault to Phoenix for Boynton....(pull da trigger)

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10-28-2006, 11:14 AM
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"L'agent de Samsonov a même laissé entendre que son client pourrait demander une transaction si la situation n'était pas corrigée."


sammy is gone for sure!





No doubt. It's ridiculous how RDS does this. It's clearly misinterpreting facts in order to get a stir. Here's article from yesterday.

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20.../1002/CPSPORTS

«Nous allons essayer d'arranger les choses, a-t-il dit. Je me suis engagé envers cette équipe — il a acheté une maison et fait venir sa famille à Montréal — et la porte de l'entraîneur est toujours ouverte. Nous devons travailler ensemble. Je sais que l'entraîneur doit assembler les bons trios. Des fois, ça prend du temps.»

I'll take a direct quote over RDS' vagueries. It's ridiculous how they put forth these half-truths and no one calls them on it. They just put things out of context and look for controversy that's not there.

And funny how tsn.ca puts a different spin on the whole situation.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=182093&hubname=nhl

Plus, there was a thread on this yesterday IIRC.

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10-28-2006, 11:59 AM
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Samsonov and Dandenault to Phoenix for Boynton....(pull da trigger)
Boynton sucks.

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10-28-2006, 12:19 PM
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At this point I just want to see him gone. I haven't been keeping up on how kostitsyn is doing in the AHL but he's a NHL guy. He needs to play with skilled players and get ice time at the NHL level. He was ready at the beginning of the season, showed it in training camp, he has the skills, the shape, he's got it all. Even last season he showed great things.

He's a better fit than samsonov only for the two reasons that he's got the hunger to show he's a NHL player, and that he's bigger and more solid than Samsonov. I really believe he'd be a perfect fit with Kovalev. I thought every time I saw Kostitsyn he really tried to make plays happen, he wasn't selfish with the puck and really had a lot of creativeness (sp?) in him on the ice. Always liked the little I saw of him at the NHL level. Again I don't know how he's doing at the AHL level but the few times I saw him last season, and by looking at his actual production he doesn't seem as good there than when he's with the big boys. Why ? Dunno, maybe it's just me that's seeing things..or maybe he's disinterested down there (which wouldn't be a good thing)... or maybe he needs to be surrounded by talented people to really shine, or more russian presence around him.. dunno.

But anyway, I feel Kostitsyn would be a much better fit than Samsonov at this point. Maybe I'm throwing the towel too quickly, entirely possible. But I feel we don't really need that kind of attitude and that kind of mess in Mtl. It snowballs so fast here that we need everyone on the same page.

Samsonov's a really talented guy, I'm sure it would be possible to unload him to a team willing to take a chance.

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10-28-2006, 12:19 PM
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Is Gui playing 2nd line again and Perez on the fourth according to that article???

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10-28-2006, 12:22 PM
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it's just a repeat of previous news. Altho I made a speculative thread about this. I dont think it will get to that. At least not this soon.

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Wow just looked at kost's production, it's only numbers but 3 assists in 5 games and minus one is not all that. Maybe there are good explanations though, anyone saw him play at all ?

Is he not trying, is he confused on the ice, what's the explanation for the lack of production ?

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