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07-11-2013, 10:46 PM
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I have to say it sucks we couldn't land Monahan. He would make our bottom six more interesting for next year
Meh, not like we passed over him for another player or anything. The only player I might've considered was Nich, but Nich couldn't pass to save his life, even Perron is less of a puck hog than him.

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07-11-2013, 10:52 PM
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Trust me, I can't stand the fact that Sam Gagner is our 2C.

But he has more value than Adam Henrique, no matter what people on HF Oil or the rest of this website have to say
There's not a manager in this league that would take Henrique Over Gagner.

It just goes to show how many people on here watch only their team and the SCF.

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07-11-2013, 10:54 PM
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Does anyone think we could add say Sam to get Adam Henrique?
Henrique isn't as good and just as small.
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Hemsky for Zajac
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Nope. Terrible Horcoffian contract and he has not played well since he came back from his torn achilles.
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Meh, not like we passed over him for another player or anything. The only player I might've considered was Nich, but Nich couldn't pass to save his life, even Perron is less of a puck hog than him.
I would not have minded us picking Nich. Big guy with talent. Having said that, we got a steal in Nurse I think.

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Actually I wonder if you could get the Devils to bite on

To NJ: Gagner and Hemsky

To EDM: Henrique, Carter and Gelinas

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07-11-2013, 11:05 PM
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With Magnus gone and a hole in the 3 slot at LW + Detroit having too many forwards is it time to jump on Abdelkader?

Has size, kills penalties, agitates, and is an all around menace on the ice.

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With Magnus gone and a hole in the 3 slot at LW + Detroit having too many forwards is it time to jump on Abdelkader?

Has size, kills penalties, agitates, and is an all around menace on the ice.
Do you think they'd let him go though? I agree he'd be a great pickup, but he seems like a guy the Wings would like to hang on to.

They'd probably prefer to dump Samuelsson

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With Magnus gone and a hole in the 3 slot at LW + Detroit having too many forwards is it time to jump on Abdelkader?

Has size, kills penalties, agitates, and is an all around menace on the ice.
He plays on the first line in Detroit and he's not going anywhere.

Perfect type of guy though

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Given the talent here, and his better size and better defensive play, he could fit nicely on the 2nd, imo.

Either way, I'm not sure this defense of Gagner, I thought we hated him now.
A 2nd line center has to contribute offense. Please don't tell me about Henrique's rookie season because he will never do that again.

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07-11-2013, 11:12 PM
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Brad Boyes. Nikolai Kulemin. Zach Smith.

Drop the puck.

(Don't ask my how it gets done, I just want it to. )

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He plays on the first line in Detroit and he's not going anywhere.

Perfect type of guy though
He may have played in their top 6 at times last year but lets not kid ourselves.

Dats, Zues, Mule, Alfie, Weiss are your top 5 and Babcock LOVES Cleary and Bert.

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07-11-2013, 11:15 PM
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Brad Boyes. Nikolai Kulemin. Zach Smith.

Drop the puck.

(Don't ask my how it gets done, I just want it to. )
Let's all eat a bowl of lucky charms for breakfast but by boyes you meant Mueller

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Wouldn't mind signing Nik Antropov if he's healthy (think he was injured there at the trade deadline) to be a big body for the bottom-6. Can take face-offs, can play in front of the net, strong along the boards and can throw his weight around occasionally. If RNH is out for the beginning of the season, he'd be the most capable candidate to fill in down the middle in the Top-6.

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07-11-2013, 11:17 PM
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Wouldn't mind signing Nik Antropov if he's healthy (think he was injured there at the trade deadline) to be a big body for the bottom-6. Can take face-offs, can play in front of the net, strong along the boards. If RNH is out for the beginning of the season, he'd be the most capable candidate to fill in down the middle in the Top-6.
And he can also contribute offense to an extent. I like this idea. What do you think he would cost? Offer him say a 2 year deal?

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Wouldn't mind signing Nik Antropov if he's healthy (think he was injured there at the trade deadline) to be a big body for the bottom-6. Can take face-offs, can play in front of the net, strong along the boards and can throw his weight around occasionally. If RNH is out for the beginning of the season, he'd be the most capable candidate to fill in down the middle in the Top-6.
I think this would be a good signing... Costs would be limited and worst case he is a ton better than Lander at 4C...

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A 2nd line center has to contribute offense. Please don't tell me about Henrique's rookie season because he will never do that again.
He might if he played with Hall and Eberle, but it would still have more to do with Hall and Eberle than Henrique himself.

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Wouldn't mind signing Nik Antropov if he's healthy (think he was injured there at the trade deadline) to be a big body for the bottom-6. Can take face-offs, can play in front of the net, strong along the boards and can throw his weight around occasionally. If RNH is out for the beginning of the season, he'd be the most capable candidate to fill in down the middle in the Top-6.
Antropov FO % last 2 seasons - 956 draws in 109gp
12/13 - 42.1
11/12 - 43.4

Gagner FO % last 2 seasons - 1442 draws in 123gp
12/13 - 43.9
11/12 - 47.6

For all the lamenting that Gagner can't win any draws, he's been better at it than Antropov for the last 2 seasons.

I think we should start getting used to the idea of Lander as 4th C, and Acton as plan B in case Lander isn't ready. That appears to be the Oilers plan, whether we like it or not.

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He might if he played with Hall and Eberle, but it would still have more to do with Hall and Eberle than Henrique himself.
Henrique and Hall do have Chemistry but Henrique couldn't get it done with the Devils best players so I doubt he can here either

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07-11-2013, 11:36 PM
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Hall Gagner Yakupov
Perron Nuge Eberle
Jones Gordon Moss
Eager Boyle Brown

I could live with that lineup. I'm sure some people would take issue with the fourth line, but that line could wreck people.

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Actually I wonder if you could get the Devils to bite on

To NJ: Gagner and Hemsky

To EDM: Henrique, Carter and Gelinas
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Given the talent here, and his better size and better defensive play, he could fit nicely on the 2nd, imo.

Either way, I'm not sure this defense of Gagner, I thought we hated him now.
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Henrique and Hall do have Chemistry but Henrique couldn't get it done with the Devils best players so I doubt he can here either
The Devils are so high on that kid because of his rookie season.
No reason he couldnt produce similar #'s on a more sheltered line with Perron, and Yakupov though.

Still a big hell no for a Gagner-Henrique swap

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Meh, not like we passed over him for another player or anything. The only player I might've considered was Nich, but Nich couldn't pass to save his life, even Perron is less of a puck hog than him.
Were gonna kick ourselves for not taking Horvat or Pulock. Both will be playing fulltime next year in the NHL IMO.

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Antropov FO % last 2 seasons - 956 draws in 109gp
12/13 - 42.1
11/12 - 43.4

Gagner FO % last 2 seasons - 1442 draws in 123gp
12/13 - 43.9
11/12 - 47.6

For all the lamenting that Gagner can't win any draws, he's been better at it than Antropov for the last 2 seasons.

I think we should start getting used to the idea of Lander as 4th C, and Acton as plan B in case Lander isn't ready. That appears to be the Oilers plan, whether we like it or not.
Ideally Antropov would only have to play centre when there are injuries. He also plays right wing.

Hall - Gagner - Yakupov
Perron - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
XXXXX - Gordon - Antropov
Smyth - Lander - Jones
Eager, Brown

Then hopefully we can trade Hemsky for a third line LWer (or grow some balls and sign Penner)

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Henrique and Hall do have Chemistry but Henrique couldn't get it done with the Devils best players so I doubt he can here either
It's actually the opposite. Henrique DID get it done with the Devils' best players. 51 points in 74 games as a rookie is an excellent stat line. It's when he went from playing with Parise/Kovalchuk in his rookie year to Clarkson and Zubrus in his second year where things went south.

The Henrique/Hall chemistry I consider to be along the lines of the so-called chemistry between Pouliot/Crosby, or even Hall/Bailey. The chemistry was there because one player is good no matter who he plays with.


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Antropov FO % last 2 seasons - 956 draws in 109gp
12/13 - 42.1
11/12 - 43.4

Gagner FO % last 2 seasons - 1442 draws in 123gp
12/13 - 43.9
11/12 - 47.6

For all the lamenting that Gagner can't win any draws, he's been better at it than Antropov for the last 2 seasons.

I think we should start getting used to the idea of Lander as 4th C, and Acton as plan B in case Lander isn't ready. That appears to be the Oilers plan, whether we like it or not.
I don't know that this completely the case, I think they want Lander to have a shot, but I still think they bring in a guy who can take faceoffs to so they don't get caught if feet break again this year.

Edit: And for the record, I feel for Lander a bit, he would have had a nice shot at proving himself last year, then breaks his foot on a freak play.

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Hall Gagner Yakupov
Perron Nuge Eberle
Jones Gordon Moss
Eager Boyle Brown

I could live with that lineup. I'm sure some people would take issue with the fourth line, but that line could wreck people.
Meh, I'd prefer Brown as a 13th forward.

3rd liner-Gordon-Moss
Eager-Boyle-Jones
Brown

I wouldn't mind that.

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Were gonna kick ourselves for not taking Horvat or Pulock. Both will be playing fulltime next year in the NHL IMO.
When Nurse is NHL ready we'll remember why we picked him. Future beast.


I want no part of Nik Antropov. Watched him float around way too much as a leaf (my dad is a fan)

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