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07-11-2013, 11:46 PM
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Leafs - nj - col

Two separate deals... just bored.

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F - Nazem Kadri
D - Cody Frason
2014 1st


D - Adam Larsson
Prospect
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#2


D - Dion Phaneuf


F - Paul Stastny


JvR - Stastny - Kessel
Lupul(C) - Bozak - Clarkson
Kulemin - Bolland - McClement
Frazer - Colbourne - Orr

Gardiner - Larsson
Reilly - Gunnarsson
Liles - Fraser

Bernier
Reimer


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So you trade GunnArson, then have him in your lineup? Also, that D would be WAY too young. And if I'm the Devils, I'm not moving Larsson. Period.

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Why the hell would your trade Phanuef/Kadri for Stasny/Larsson.

Whats wrong with you?

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Leafs say no to both. That's too expensive of a price for Larsson when the Leafs aren't exactly deep in top-6 centres. Also, if Phaneuf is gone, we have a huge hole on our defense. Honestly, I think Phaneuf has more value than Stastny.

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That's a very soft defense. They're not pushovers but that defense won't win you any playoff rounds.

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As an Avs fan, I'd consider this

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07-11-2013, 11:52 PM
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#2 is BRUTAL for the Leafs. Stastny is an over glorified & overpaid 2nd/3rd line centre at this point in his career.

The value is there in the first proposal, but I don't see either team doing it. The Leafs have longed for a #1 C and they may have found it in Naz. I also can't see the Devs moving Larsson for anything, barring an extreme overpayment.

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Stastny for Phaneuf is a pretty fair swap, it's mixed on both sides for a reason.

Interesting trade for NJ though, not sure either side does either of these. However the value seems fine.

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I'd think the Avs would at least need to add their 1st. Stastny is nothing more than a 3C on a good team. Phaneuf is a #1 on most teams.

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#2 is BRUTAL for the Leafs. Stastny is an over glorified & overpaid 2nd/3rd line centre at this point in his career.

The value is there in the first proposal, but I don't see either team doing it. The Leafs have longed for a #1 C and they may have found it in Naz. I also can't see the Devs moving Larsson for anything, barring an extreme overpayment.
You're on glue if you think Stastny is a 3rd line center. He's overpaid, but so are a lot of guys in the league, but he's not a 3rd line center.

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Both are terrible for the Leafs.

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Both are terrible for the Leafs.
Alright, lets cut out the Leafs.

Larsson for Stastny+1st+

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I'd think the Avs would at least need to add their 1st. Stastny is nothing more than a 3C on a good team. Phaneuf is a #1 on most teams.
This. Phaneuf is a #1 defensman. Stastny is overpaid, overrated, and a 3rd line center on most teams.

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I'd think the Avs would at least need to add their 1st. Stastny is nothing more than a 3C on a good team. Phaneuf is a #1 on most teams.
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You're on glue if you think Stastny is a 3rd line center. He's overpaid, but so are a lot of guys in the league, but he's not a 3rd line center.
Don't even bother responding to that stuff, it just turns into a **** fight.

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Alright, lets cut out the Leafs.

Larsson for Stastny+1st+
I like it

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07-12-2013, 12:00 AM
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Wouldn't do the second trade, if we trade Phaneuf that 2014 1st could very well be a lottery pick.

I'd do the first trade however, Larsson and Rielly/Gardiner would solidify our top pairing for the next 10+ years

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Because of the Kovi retirement. I don't like either one.

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both of them are terrible for the leafs...


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Larsson is a non-starter. Any deal involving him needs mega-colossal overpayment. Like, laughable and insulting NHL '13 video game overpayment. I'm talking like JVR + Gardiner + your next five 1sts overpayment.

Basically - ask yourself "what would be a fair trade to get the best player on MY team?", and then make it a NOT fair trade, and then add five 1st round picks to it. And that's what it would take to get Adam Larsson. So no, we'll pass on this package. He's untouchable. He's Uber-untouchable.

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07-12-2013, 12:32 AM
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Two separate deals... just bored.

#1


F - Nazem Kadri
D - Cody Frason
2014 1st


D - Adam Larsson
Prospect
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#2


D - Dion Phaneuf


F - Paul Stastny


JvR - Stastny - Kessel
Lupul(C) - Bozak - Clarkson
Kulemin - Bolland - McClement
Frazer - Colbourne - Orr

Gardiner - Larsson
Reilly - Gunnarsson
Liles - Fraser

Bernier
Reimer
I had this type of a reaction...

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07-12-2013, 12:46 AM
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Would not even trade Kadri straight up for Larsson.

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07-12-2013, 12:48 AM
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Would not even trade Kadri straight up for Larsson.
Homerism at it's finest. And I'm a fan of neither team.

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Homerism at it's finest. And I'm a fan of neither team.
It's called team needs. Kadri is the only chance the Leafs have had and likely will have at a number one centre in/for a while. You don't trade a 22-year-old who almost had a PPG campaign in what was practically his rookie season immediately after.

Meanwhile, the Leafs have Phaneuf/Gunnar on D while Gardiner and Franson develop. Rielly should be joining that group in the next year or so. Plenty of good D prospects with a shot to make it as well.

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Kadri 1st and Franson for Larsson ???

Nope

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This. Phaneuf is a #1 defensman. Stastny is overpaid, overrated, and a 3rd line center on most teams.
His numbers have been consistently decaying since he got exposed 3 years ago. Every single year they drop by like 15 points or something. Plus he sucks so bad in the faceoff circle he's only really good, and two way play, yeah right. Staz the ghost can't do anything right. Doesn't chip in 20 goals a year regardless of linemates or role either, no sir.

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