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07-11-2013, 06:18 PM
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And yet Boston employed Thornton who was extremely effective.

No. I don't like goons. I like players who can muck it up, drop the gloves, and play the game.
thornton is a good hockey player that would be in the nhl if there was no fighting allowed.

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I'm watching the WC on NHLN. It reminds me how differently the 2013 squad played. No one had anyone's back.

Oh, yeah, and Richards didn't look like a **** up

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I'm watching the WC on NHLN. It reminds me how differently the 2013 squad played. No one had anyone's back.

Oh, yeah, and Richards didn't look like a **** up
I miss the 2012 crew so hard. I still get a little choked up thinking about that season.

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I miss the 2012 crew so hard. I still get a little choked up thinking about that season.
Mike Rupp- 2g
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Makes me laugh

Anyways I miss Dubinsky the most. He was overpaid but damn the hits he threw around...

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I think you come on just to argue or you really don't have a clue.
Yeah, I'm the one without a clue. You, the one who is sounding the alarm because the Islanders are auditioning some no-talent goons. This sends you into a frenzy. Oh my god, the Islanders are coming, the Islanders are coming.

They might become good, but the way you will know they have become good is the day they are down to one or no goons, not when they are auditioning no-talent goons.

You live in a fantasy world where guys like Colton Orr are an asset to a team. Your whole view of hockey is based on fear. You are terrified that the Rangers might lose a fight and you treat this like it's an affront to your manhood. Everything to you is about fear and intimidation.

The players on the ice, the ones who you think aren't tough, the same ones who throw their bodies in front of frozen pucks moving 100 miles an hour aren't tough enough to you. Being tough is holding onto a puck in order to make the right pass even when you know you are about to absorb a huge hit.

You accuse these players of not being tough. You think that someone who takes one shift in a game and swings at his identical double on the other team is tough.

When you get called on it you retreat from your ridiculous beliefs and claim that you want physical and skilled players just like everyone else, but it pains you too much to remain on such a rational stance and you always fall back into the same role of preaching that the Rangers must worry about losing fist fights and they must always be fighting.

The year before last the Rangers fought more than everyone and you still incessantly whined that they were not tough enough to play on the same ice as the big, bad Bruins. It's a never ending story.

As long as you revere guys like Colton Orr, you really don't understand that the 1970's are over. The days of one team running over another are over. The rules have changed. Skating has improved. Strategy by all teams have changed, yet you live in the past, desiring the next Colton Orr, Brashear or blablabla.

I love watching a fight as much as anyone, but a long time ago I realized that it has become for the most part staged, pre-meditated, and only a diversion until the game resumes again.

As much as I like watching a fight, it pales in comparison to watching a great move or a great shot or a great pass or a great bodycheck, or a great save. That is the beauty and excitement of hockey. That is why playoff games are so much better than regular season games.

Those are the reasons that hockey is the greatest sport on earth. Fights are a fun diversion to most. Sadly, to some it is the most important thing. You're missing a wonderful game.

But I don't have a clue.

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Yeah, I'm the one without a clue. You, the one who is sounding the alarm because the Islanders are auditioning some no-talent goons. This sends you into a frenzy. Oh my god, the Islanders are coming, the Islanders are coming.

They might become good, but the way you will know they have become good is the day they are down to one or no goons, not when they are auditioning no-talent goons.

You live in a fantasy world where guys like Colton Orr are an asset to a team. Your whole view of hockey is based on fear. You are terrified that the Rangers might lose a fight and you treat this like it's an affront to your manhood. Everything to you is about fear and intimidation.

The players on the ice, the ones who you think aren't tough, the same ones who throw their bodies in front of frozen pucks moving 100 miles an hour aren't tough enough to you. Being tough is holding onto a puck in order to make the right pass even when you know you are about to absorb a huge hit.

You accuse these players of not being tough. You think that someone who takes one shift in a game and swings at his identical double on the other team is tough.

When you get called on it you retreat from your ridiculous beliefs and claim that you want physical and skilled players just like everyone else, but it pains you too much to remain on such a rational stance and you always fall back into the same role of preaching that the Rangers must worry about losing fist fights and they must always be fighting.

The year before last the Rangers fought more than everyone and you still incessantly whined that they were not tough enough to play on the same ice as the big, bad Bruins. It's a never ending story.

As long as you revere guys like Colton Orr, you really don't understand that the 1970's are over. The days of one team running over another are over. The rules have changed. Skating has improved. Strategy by all teams have changed, yet you live in the past, desiring the next Colton Orr, Brashear or blablabla.

I love watching a fight as much as anyone, but a long time ago I realized that it has become for the most part staged, pre-meditated, and only a diversion until the game resumes again.

As much as I like watching a fight, it pales in comparison to watching a great move or a great shot or a great pass or a great bodycheck, or a great save. That is the beauty and excitement of hockey. That is why playoff games are so much better than regular season games.

Those are the reasons that hockey is the greatest sport on earth. Fights are a fun diversion to most. Sadly, to some it is the most important thing. You're missing a wonderful game.

But I don't have a clue.
Thank you.

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Yeah, I'm the one without a clue. You, the one who is sounding the alarm because the Islanders are auditioning some no-talent goons. This sends you into a frenzy. Oh my god, the Islanders are coming, the Islanders are coming.

They might become good, but the way you will know they have become good is the day they are down to one or no goons, not when they are auditioning no-talent goons.

You live in a fantasy world where guys like Colton Orr are an asset to a team. Your whole view of hockey is based on fear. You are terrified that the Rangers might lose a fight and you treat this like it's an affront to your manhood. Everything to you is about fear and intimidation.

The players on the ice, the ones who you think aren't tough, the same ones who throw their bodies in front of frozen pucks moving 100 miles an hour aren't tough enough to you. Being tough is holding onto a puck in order to make the right pass even when you know you are about to absorb a huge hit.

You accuse these players of not being tough. You think that someone who takes one shift in a game and swings at his identical double on the other team is tough.

When you get called on it you retreat from your ridiculous beliefs and claim that you want physical and skilled players just like everyone else, but it pains you too much to remain on such a rational stance and you always fall back into the same role of preaching that the Rangers must worry about losing fist fights and they must always be fighting.

The year before last the Rangers fought more than everyone and you still incessantly whined that they were not tough enough to play on the same ice as the big, bad Bruins. It's a never ending story.

As long as you revere guys like Colton Orr, you really don't understand that the 1970's are over. The days of one team running over another are over. The rules have changed. Skating has improved. Strategy by all teams have changed, yet you live in the past, desiring the next Colton Orr, Brashear or blablabla.

I love watching a fight as much as anyone, but a long time ago I realized that it has become for the most part staged, pre-meditated, and only a diversion until the game resumes again.

As much as I like watching a fight, it pales in comparison to watching a great move or a great shot or a great pass or a great bodycheck, or a great save. That is the beauty and excitement of hockey. That is why playoff games are so much better than regular season games.

Those are the reasons that hockey is the greatest sport on earth. Fights are a fun diversion to most. Sadly, to some it is the most important thing. You're missing a wonderful game.

But I don't have a clue.
That almost made me cry...you're a bully.

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07-12-2013, 06:00 AM
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Well the Islanders are coming. They're just coming with Clutterbuck and Matt Martin. It's like having two bigger versions of Ryan Callahan and Martin is a pretty good fighter and Clutterbuck kind of so-so. Nothing to be particularly afraid of here but those two hit everything that moves all the time. The Islanders I'm expecting are going to play a really physical forechecking style.

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Well the Islanders are coming. They're just coming with Clutterbuck and Matt Martin. It's like having two bigger versions of Ryan Callahan and Martin is a pretty good fighter and Clutterbuck kind of so-so. Nothing to be particularly afraid of here but those two hit everything that moves all the time. The Islanders I'm expecting are going to play a really physical forechecking style.
The Islanders will have the 1st pick in the draft...because they are terrible...don't you know that...

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thornton is a good hockey player that would be in the nhl if there was no fighting allowed.
Exactly, but he is a "goon". He is the type of "goon" that I would want. More players like him, Neil, Prust, Dorsett.

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Well the Islanders are coming. They're just coming with Clutterbuck and Matt Martin. It's like having two bigger versions of Ryan Callahan and Martin is a pretty good fighter and Clutterbuck kind of so-so. Nothing to be particularly afraid of here but those two hit everything that moves all the time. The Islanders I'm expecting are going to play a really physical forechecking style.
They also have Boulton and Carkner(if he plays). I am not afraid of them, but it is still something to keep in mind.

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Exactly, but he is a "goon". He is the type of "goon" that I would want. More players like him, Neil, Prust, Dorsett.
You and I have different definitions of 'goon' then. Boogard (RIP), Brashear, Laraque. Those are goons. Neil, Prust, Dorsett, Thornton are tough S.O.Bs that can play hockey at a high and effective level (when utilized appropriately).

Edit: I understand it's an argument of semantics, but it's important thing to point out the distinction. It's not necessarily directed at you Viper, you're well aware of the difference.

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You and I have different definitions of 'goon' then. Boogard (RIP), Brashear, Laraque. Those are goons. Neil, Prust, Dorsett, Thornton are tough S.O.Bs that can play hockey at a high and effective level.

Edit: I understand it's an argument of semantics, but it's important thing to point out the distinction. It's not necessarily directed at you Viper, you're well aware of the difference.
No worries.

I agree with you. I was just arguing that Thornton is Boston's "goon" and he is rather unique in the fact that he can skate and play 8 minutes a night and be effective on the forecheck. Those are the types of guys who deserve to play in this league still and who I would love to have on this team. They are hard to find.

However, it must be stated that until almost all of the teams in NHL decide unanimously to scrap that line of thinking, there will be an "arm's race". Luckily, it seems that the Rangers division, outside of the Isles, have decided to go the "New Age" route. Pitt doesn't employ a goon. Neither does Philly. Neither does NJ.

With all of that said, I still think they need at least (2) more players who can play the game AND drop the gloves when called upon to do so. Dorsett is one. I am not talking about getting a Brashear, I am talking about more guys like Nystrom or Hendricks (both of whom were overpaid) or guys like that.

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No worries.

I agree with you. I was just arguing that Thornton is Boston's "goon" and he is rather unique in the fact that he can skate and play 8 minutes a night and be effective on the forecheck. Those are the types of guys who deserve to play in this league still and who I would love to have on this team. They are hard to find.

However, it must be stated that until almost all of the teams in NHL decide unanimously to scrap that line of thinking, there will be an "arm's race". Luckily, it seems that the Rangers division, outside of the Isles, have decided to go the "New Age" route. Pitt doesn't employ a goon. Neither does Philly. Neither does NJ.

With all of that said, I still think they need at least (2) more players who can play the game AND drop the gloves when called upon to do so. Dorsett is one. I am not talking about getting a Brashear, I am talking about more guys like Nystrom or Hendricks (both of whom were overpaid) or guys like that.
I honestly don't think there's a single reasonable person in this thread that will argue with that.

The only disagreement really here is when people want a player whose only strength is fighting and/or when people get worried about another team getting someone whose only real use is fighting.

I'd love a thornton, I'd love to have the prust of old back (too many injuries now). I'm pleased we got dorsett back. These types of players are rather difficult to get and the last two we've gotten through trades. I'd rather management be picky on getting these type of players and make sure they get ones that can actually play hockey at a reasonable price (not signing them as UFA where they get overpaid).

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Well the Islanders are coming. They're just coming with Clutterbuck and Matt Martin. It's like having two bigger versions of Ryan Callahan and Martin is a pretty good fighter and Clutterbuck kind of so-so. Nothing to be particularly afraid of here but those two hit everything that moves all the time. The Islanders I'm expecting are going to play a really physical forechecking style.
Martin might become Callahan, but right now Callahan is an established 45 point scorer while Martin is below a 20 point scorer. What makes Martin a bigger version of Callahan, now?

Clutterbuck is a better analogy but so far Callahan has shown himself to be a better player.

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I honestly don't think there's a single reasonable person in this thread that will argue with that.

The only disagreement really here is when people want a player whose only strength is fighting and/or when people get worried about another team getting someone whose only real use is fighting.

I'd love a thornton, I'd love to have the prust of old back (too many injuries now). I'm pleased we got dorsett back. These types of players are rather difficult to get and the last two we've gotten through trades. I'd rather management be picky on getting these type of players and make sure they get ones that can actually play hockey at a reasonable price (not signing them as UFA where they get overpaid).
I agree. But like you said, they are very hard to find and many teams are not willing to move them. I think the Rangers got lucky with Dorsett because Columbus is a big team full of guys willing to engage. Boll, Dubinsky, Umberger, Foligno, Prout, Wisniewski. That team is going to be a MAJOR pain to play against.

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They also have Boulton and Carkner(if he plays). I am not afraid of them, but it is still something to keep in mind.
Boulton and Carkner are both kind of one dimensional. Carkner can play some but does not have the speed or mobility to be an effective physical player apart from the fighting part. He's a better version of Dale Purinton. Boulton is old and was never anything more than a 12th-13th forward. You can't hit what you can't catch. The reason Martin and Clutterbuck are very good physical players is they're both very good skaters.

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Martin might become Callahan, but right now Callahan is an established 45 point scorer while Martin is below a 20 point scorer. What makes Martin a bigger version of Callahan, now?
Literally, larger and more impact when he hits. Martin is a very underrated player. He and Clutterbuck are going to make for a very good physical presence on that team. I am VERY surprised Edmonton didn't make a larger push on him.

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Martin might become Callahan, but right now Callahan is an established 45 point scorer while Martin is below a 20 point scorer. What makes Martin a bigger version of Callahan, now?
Yeah, well that's true. Martin can skate though. He can do a number of little things. He's an effective defensive player and penalty killer. He will put up some points. He's a bigger body than Callahan--a little bit stronger IMO and a pretty good fighter. Very good at tracking puck carriers down--that comes with being able to skate. IMO he edges out Prust as a player--bigger, better skater. Prust IMO is a slightly better fighter. If I had to choose I'd take Martin. I think he led the league in hits last year.

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Boulton and Carkner are both kind of one dimensional. Carkner can play some but does not have the speed or mobility to be an effective physical player apart from the fighting part. He's a better version of Dale Purinton. Boulton is old and was never anything more than a 12th-13th forward. You can't hit what you can't catch. The reason Martin and Clutterbuck are very good physical players is they're both very good skaters.
Agreed. Just stating they were one of the only teams in this division employing the old style "goons" still.

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Yeah, well that's true. Martin can skate though. He can do a number of little things. He's an effective defensive player and penalty killer. He will put up some points. He's a bigger body than Callahan--a little bit stronger IMO and a pretty good fighter. Very good at tracking puck carriers down--that comes with being able to skate. IMO he edges out Prust as a player--bigger, better skater. Prust IMO is a slightly better fighter. If I had to choose I'd take Martin. I think he led the league in hits last year.
I think Martin has the potential to be a good complimentary top-6 forward very soon. Similar to David Clarkson actually except he is a better skater. He is just a massive pain in the ass to play against because he finishes every check.

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I'd love to have Dubinsky back if he had a more reasonable contract. I still think his hockey sense is pretty poor, but he is an incredibly useful player when he is playing N/S hockey (none of that east west hockey he tries to play when he forgets the type of player he is).

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Yeah, I'm the one without a clue. You, the one who is sounding the alarm because the Islanders are auditioning some no-talent goons. This sends you into a frenzy. Oh my god, the Islanders are coming, the Islanders are coming.

They might become good, but the way you will know they have become good is the day they are down to one or no goons, not when they are auditioning no-talent goons.

You live in a fantasy world where guys like Colton Orr are an asset to a team. Your whole view of hockey is based on fear. You are terrified that the Rangers might lose a fight and you treat this like it's an affront to your manhood. Everything to you is about fear and intimidation.

The players on the ice, the ones who you think aren't tough, the same ones who throw their bodies in front of frozen pucks moving 100 miles an hour aren't tough enough to you. Being tough is holding onto a puck in order to make the right pass even when you know you are about to absorb a huge hit.

You accuse these players of not being tough. You think that someone who takes one shift in a game and swings at his identical double on the other team is tough.

When you get called on it you retreat from your ridiculous beliefs and claim that you want physical and skilled players just like everyone else, but it pains you too much to remain on such a rational stance and you always fall back into the same role of preaching that the Rangers must worry about losing fist fights and they must always be fighting.

The year before last the Rangers fought more than everyone and you still incessantly whined that they were not tough enough to play on the same ice as the big, bad Bruins. It's a never ending story.

As long as you revere guys like Colton Orr, you really don't understand that the 1970's are over. The days of one team running over another are over. The rules have changed. Skating has improved. Strategy by all teams have changed, yet you live in the past, desiring the next Colton Orr, Brashear or blablabla.

I love watching a fight as much as anyone, but a long time ago I realized that it has become for the most part staged, pre-meditated, and only a diversion until the game resumes again.

As much as I like watching a fight, it pales in comparison to watching a great move or a great shot or a great pass or a great bodycheck, or a great save. That is the beauty and excitement of hockey. That is why playoff games are so much better than regular season games.

Those are the reasons that hockey is the greatest sport on earth. Fights are a fun diversion to most. Sadly, to some it is the most important thing. You're missing a wonderful game.

But I don't have a clue.
Awesome. Well spoken.

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I'd love to have Dubinsky back if he had a more reasonable contract. I still think his hockey sense is pretty poor, but he is an incredibly useful player when he is playing N/S hockey (none of that east west hockey he tries to play when he forgets the type of player he is).
Exactly. Nick Foligno is another one. Marcus is going to be even more physical than his brother playing in Buffalo. Good young power forward.

Hell, Travis Moen is an example of a player who can play the game, be effective on the forecheck and drop the gloves. He is overpaid as well in Montreal. Seems like a trend? That's because these guys are hard to come across.

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Exactly. Nick Foligno is another one. Marcus is going to be even more physical than his brother playing in Buffalo. Good young power forward.

Hell, Travis Moen is an example of a player who can play the game, be effective on the forecheck and drop the gloves. He is overpaid as well in Montreal. Seems like a trend? That's because these guys are hard to come across.
I agree. You either have to draft these guys (incredibly difficult to do, I feel it's really hard to predict if these types of players can make it to the NHL. Hell it can be argued that a high end type of this player just got drafted 9th by Vancouver) or trade for them. Can't overpay for them as a UFA and then put them in a position to fail/not meet expectations (ala what will happen to Clarkson for the next 7 years imo).

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