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07-12-2013, 11:02 PM
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That would be very difficult to get done. But again Kadri isnt even close to getting you Larsson
Wow, I love the thought process of some people. Just cuz he is on ur team doesnt make him the next big thing. Larsson has talent and MAY be a top line defenceman in a few years, but at this point, he has done NOTHING to prove he is worth Kadri. If the trade was based around those 2, it would Larsson + for Kadri. Both are young, play a premium position, but one has proved he is a top notch player, one has not. So how is the player that HAS NOT proven he is top notch worth more then a guy who has???


I dont get it

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07-12-2013, 11:20 PM
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I am embarassed to be an Avs fan right now.
To my fellow Avs fans: Stop proposing those nonsensical deals!

Stastny is a quickly declining 4th liner right now who brings nothing to the table, is way overpaid and will walk in UFA next summer anyways.
And you want Captain Phaneuf in return?? Please. Maybe for Duchene...

And the Leafs can't trade Dion under any circumstances anyway right now. With the trade for Bernier they are in great danger of losing April Reimer. After that possible blow they certainly can not afford to lose Elisha Cuthbert as well.
There would be riots..


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07-12-2013, 11:26 PM
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Wow, I love the thought process of some people. Just cuz he is on ur team doesnt make him the next big thing. Larsson has talent and MAY be a top line defenceman in a few years, but at this point, he has done NOTHING to prove he is worth Kadri. If the trade was based around those 2, it would Larsson + for Kadri. Both are young, play a premium position, but one has proved he is a top notch player, one has not. So how is the player that HAS NOT proven he is top notch worth more then a guy who has???


I dont get it
a shortened season is proof Kadri is a top notch player?

He's played 99 career games and has only put up "top notch" numbers this year.

Neither guy has played enough games to prove anything yet. However, defensemen do take longer to develop, so I'd doubt NJ would swap 1 for 1 much less add anything to Larsson.

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07-12-2013, 11:42 PM
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a shortened season is proof Kadri is a top notch player?

He's played 99 career games and has only put up "top notch" numbers this year.

Neither guy has played enough games to prove anything yet. However, defensemen do take longer to develop, so I'd doubt NJ would swap 1 for 1 much less add anything to Larsson.
No one is trading Kadri, the OP is braindead.

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07-12-2013, 11:52 PM
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No one is trading Kadri, the OP is braindead.
Nor will Larsson be moved, just trying to find where on the map the poster I quoted is coming from shakehead and all.

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07-13-2013, 12:23 AM
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Wow, I love the thought process of some people. Just cuz he is on ur team doesnt make him the next big thing. Larsson has talent and MAY be a top line defenceman in a few years, but at this point, he has done NOTHING to prove he is worth Kadri. If the trade was based around those 2, it would Larsson + for Kadri. Both are young, play a premium position, but one has proved he is a top notch player, one has not. So how is the player that HAS NOT proven he is top notch worth more then a guy who has???


I dont get it
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07-13-2013, 01:06 AM
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Disaster is hitting the Devils at the perfect moment ...Brodeur Swan song in the season you give up the 1st rounder, then, Connor McDavid on a silver platter, unless Calgary doesnt improve.

you have the goalie of the future, you have the d-man (Larsson) of the future and the final core piece is 2 seasons away
McDavid's draft year is 2015 so stay the course Devils, he will be yours

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07-13-2013, 01:21 AM
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This. Phaneuf is a #1 defensman. Stastny is overpaid, overrated, and a 3rd line center on most teams.
stastny is a 2nd line C on most teams and phaneuf is more of a #2/3.

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07-13-2013, 01:36 AM
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I feel like Avs fans have united to undermind the Stastny bashing by starting the sterotypical comments...
What? Not at all. We just all finally have come to terms that Stastny is worthless and stating the reality of the situtation, Phaneuf is a #1 D that took his team to game 7 with the Bruins.

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07-13-2013, 01:44 AM
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stastny is a 2nd line C on most teams and phaneuf is more of a #2/3.
Disagree. Stastny was the 3rd line center last year on the worst team in the league.


Phaneuf was the #1 defensman and 10th in Norris votes or something on a playoff team.

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07-13-2013, 02:43 AM
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Disagree. Stastny was the 3rd line center last year on the worst team in the league.


Phaneuf was the #1 defensman and 10th in Norris votes or something on a playoff team.
It's funny cause your sarcasm is true... not sure what you're trying to prove here, but ok if it makes you feel clever then by all means continue


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07-13-2013, 06:00 AM
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Stastny for Phaneuf is a pretty fair swap, it's mixed on both sides for a reason.

Interesting trade for NJ though, not sure either side does either of these. However the value seems fine.
Dion is far more important than Stastny. Like others have said, Stastny is no more than second line center who is grossly overpaid. Losing Dion would create a huge hole on our D.

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07-13-2013, 07:01 AM
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It's funny cause your sarcasm is true... not sure what you're trying to prove here, but ok if it makes you feel clever then by all means continue
I know right, its funny because he thinks he's making leaf fans look stupid, but really....

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07-13-2013, 09:29 AM
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stastny is a 2nd line C on most teams and phaneuf is more of a #2/3.
Riddle me this, oh fighter of the dayman. What kind of 2nd line C scores 20 goals a year, is a strong faceoff guy, brings a strong two-way game, and managed to stay in the top 30 for Center scoring the two years before this shortened season, despite his most common winger being 4mil per year superstar Davey Jones? If that's not 4th liner/AHLer, then leafs fans have been lying to us.

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07-13-2013, 09:31 AM
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Stastny for Phaneuf is a pretty fair swap, it's mixed on both sides for a reason.

Interesting trade for NJ though, not sure either side does either of these. However the value seems fine.
I love how you say this with a straight face as though Colorado can really get Phaneuf for Stastny..

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07-13-2013, 09:38 AM
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I know right, its funny because he thinks he's making leaf fans look stupid, but really....
Stupid? No, not at all.

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I love how you say this with a straight face as though Colorado can really get Phaneuf for Stastny..
For seriouslies. Avs would never trade Staz for Phaneuf.

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07-13-2013, 09:39 AM
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I love how you say this with a straight face as though Colorado can really get Phaneuf for Stastny..
Well if they could, they would have already.

Let's face it, Stastny is trouble. He's a proven loser with nothing to his name. On the other hand, Phaneuf is a consistent winner - he's lived up to his early career hype, has played for a middling playoff team or lottery winner almost every year, and is dating Elisha Cuthbert. Stastny? He's never won anything at any level. I don't even need to watch him to know he's terrible, I can just trust the founded opinions of the other teens on HFBoards.

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That's a terrible deal for the Leafs. I'd consider it if we were guaranteed to draft McDavid though.

Paul Stastny sucks. Not worth 6.6M.

1st line center that is 141st in scoring.

Even Bozak is better than that and we trash the guy to no end.

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For seriouslies. Avs would never trade Staz for Phaneuf.
The Leafs would never consider trading a legitimate #1 defenceman for a 60 point center either.

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The Leafs would never consider trading a legitimate #1 defenceman for a 60 point center either.
Good, so start spreading the word around Toronto. Let the Avs keep their C's cause y'all ain't offering up **** that the Avs would want more. And maybe we won't get leafs fans making multiple proposals for our C's every damn week.

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It's funny cause your sarcasm is true... not sure what you're trying to prove here, but ok if it makes you feel clever then by all means continue
I think you misunderstand me.


Stastny IS declining, IS overpaid, and at this point is a #3 center on most teams in the league. He is probably worthy of the type of contract Bozak has. We would be lucky to get the same type of return Derek Roy did(late 2nd, mediocre prospect) It's looking more and more like we will have to move Stastny at some point, and that we we will have to accept any offer we get. I'm actually not sure if he even has value any more if Grabovski got bought out.



It's time for Avs fans to realize Stastny isn't that good.

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I love how you say this with a straight face as though Colorado can really get Phaneuf for Stastny..
Stasny's a bum! Doesn't deserve to lick the ice off Phaneuf's skates!

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The Stastny love-in is getting pretty sickening at this point. Phaneuf for a glorified 3rd line center at this point in his career? Come on.

Leafs don't do the first one either. We don't exactly have the best depth at Center to deal away our most talented one.

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Disagree. Stastny was the 3rd line center last year on the worst team in the league.
He spent most of the year on the second line IIRC?

Also, Joe Pavelski is a third line center. Would you trade Phaneuf for him?

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Well if they could, they would have already.

Let's face it, Stastny is trouble. He's a proven loser with nothing to his name. On the other hand, Phaneuf is a consistent winner - he's lived up to his early career hype, has played for a middling playoff team or lottery winner almost every year, and is dating Elisha Cuthbert.
No he's not. Also, being a "winner" doesn't mean constantly missing or almost missing the playoffs, and often not being the best player on your team when you do, then finally pitching a fit and giving up and getting traded (when you lose your #1 job) for a FAIR return (Phaneuf+decent prospect+enforcer for young top-line two-way center, top-four defenseman, middle-six winger, and enforcer) into what turned out the be the exact same situation. Sounds more like being a whiny *****, if you ask me. Look out Leafs Fans; if Franson or Gardiner overtakes Phaneuf, he'll start sulking and "need" to be traded.

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Stastny? He's never won anything at any level. I don't even need to watch him to know he's terrible, I can just trust the founded opinions of the other teens on HFBoards.
What have Steven Stamkos, John Tavares, or Claude Giroux won? Would you trade Phaneuf for one of them?

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