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07-11-2013, 04:46 PM
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Haha, Bert.

Hope it's nothing too serious.

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Bert's doing his job already but it's just too soon

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Don't fight if you don't want to get hurt. Good on lil Bert doing his job. Hope Jensen is ok, wings and Griffs are going to need him this season.

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Nick Jensen was absent from practice today and won't be participating in the scrimmage tomorrow either. George Malik told me that Nick tweaked his shoulder in the fight with Tyler Bertuzzi yesterday. This sucks a big one because I was really looking forward to seeing Jensen in game action (even if it's just scrimmage). He's made big strides since last year and I think a full camp would have been good for him. Damn it. I mentioned in my day one recap that Jensen got the worse of the fight with BerTwozzi, and it's also worth noting that since fighting isn't allowed in the NCAA, Jensen isn't accustomed to fighting. I really hope keeping him out of practice and the scrimmage is just precautionary.

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If true, SMH... Way to go, Newbert. Good going on injuring a promising prospect for the Wings.

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If true, SMH... Way to go, Newbert. Good going on injuring a promising prospect for the Wings.
Why would it be Bertuzzi's fault? He's doing his job and trying to make an impression. Jensen didn't have to fight. And he "tweaked" his shoulder. The season is still a few months away and he should recover from it.

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why are players dropping the gloves in practice? seems like a stupid idea, nothing positive can come from it.

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I remember that was known already when Wings drafted him. Marchenko had studied english and was very interested in moving America. HE could be a special case, that does not prefer his home country like almost all Russians not named Voynov and superstars have done. They knew the guy, because they got the inside info from Fetisov.
I thought one of his biggest drawbacks was people didn't think he'd come to America?

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I thought one of his biggest drawbacks was people didn't think he'd come to America?
The biggest reason he wasn't drafted in 2010 was injuries. He had his spleen removed and it wasn't sure that he could play again. He also had a major knee injury after being drafted, in 2011-2012.

By the way, I just noticed Pulkkinen and Marchenko are born on the same day.

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Seems like scrimmage is ongoing.

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It's a camp. There proving what they can do. And Bertuzzi did what he did. It's not his fault. Suck it up kid

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Interesting to think about how many goalscorer prospects the Wings have now. Mantha, Frk, Pope, Tatar, arguably Tvrdon (31 goals in the W his rookie year), and Jurco as well. Wonder if we'll see a tiny bit more focus on skilled playmakers again so long as this group continues to impress.

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If true, SMH... Way to go, Newbert. Good going on injuring a promising prospect for the Wings.
Jensen fought in the USHL so this isn't entirely accurate. I have no problem with it happening once in a blue moon between teammates, as long as everyone understands why. I hope Jensen doesn't take this the wrong way he fought basically for what sounded like little Bert running around a little too aggressively and bumping his goalie. I like that Jensen actually went, stinks about his shoulder, but that has more to do with falling or grappling than actually getting his *** kicked. Just unfortunate it happened that way.

It was pretty clear from the write ups today that Bertuzzi was the target of some rough stuff in their scrimmage. That Frk unloaded on him and got his stick up high when he saw him coming. There is a difference between your teammates and the other guys, little Bertuzzi isn't making the Wings this year and I don't think he needs to be playing as aggressive as he is doing right now. I don't think the other prospects appreciate it. Some will like that he doesn't have an off-switch, but I have a feeling he is going to hear don't do this in his exit interview in terms of in the next couple years.

I don't fault Bertuzzi, this is what he is, this is what he was billed as being. He is a tough son of gun and he plays a mean game, he just needs to do it more so to the other teams guys, or at this might sound a little mean but if he wanted to prove his point take on one of the tryouts, not a future teammate who is under contract.

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Interesting to think about how many goalscorer prospects the Wings have now. Mantha, Frk, Pope, Tatar, arguably Tvrdon (31 goals in the W his rookie year), and Jurco as well. Wonder if we'll see a tiny bit more focus on skilled playmakers again so long as this group continues to impress.
jarnkrok projects to be an elite level playmaker. it'll interesting to see who joins him on either of his wings down the road in the AHL and into the N, given all of those goalscorers.

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07-15-2013, 06:06 PM
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Nice bit on Marchenko and how he's likely to embrace living in North America: (from here http://griffinshockey.com/news/featu...rticle_id=2553)

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“It’s always interesting to learn something new, and it will help me a lot in the future,” he said. “I think the smaller rink is better because it’s more intense. You have to think a little bit faster than on a big rink, which makes it more interesting.”

The Moscow native did visit Grand Rapids for a few weeks at the beginning of the team’s playoff run, skating in several practices and bracing for potential culture shock in moving across the world for next season.

“They have a great team and a great group of guys,” said Marchenko. “If I don’t understand something, everyone tries to help by speaking to me and showing me what to do. It was great to see how they work and to feel the atmosphere at the rink.

“I don’t think I will [have trouble adjusting to North America] because my wife will be here, too,” he continued. “It wouldn’t matter if we were in Grand Rapids or in Africa. You are together and helping each other, and I think your teammates will always help you in any part of the world.”

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Nice bit on Marchenko and how he's likely to embrace living in North America: (from here http://griffinshockey.com/news/featu...rticle_id=2553)
He just seems to get it. He understands it better than most players. This kid has his head on a straight as can be.

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07-15-2013, 08:18 PM
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He just seems to get it. He understands it better than most players. This kid has his head on a straight as can be.
I'm glad to have him here. I look forward to following his development.

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http://ohlprospects.blogspot.ca/2013...red-wings.html

A review of Detroit's OHL prospects (season review and future outlook).

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from thehockeywriters...
Few Super Stars among wing prospects

http://thehockeywriters.com/wings-cl...th-or-tactics/

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http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index....d_wings_r.html

Some prospect stuff from Joe McDonnell. From just before he left, of course. Maybe somebody ought to tell him that the Wings' prospect pool isn't any good, because he seems pretty positive.

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Few Super Stars among wing prospects

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That was hard to read.

Guy might has well have been wearing a skirt and waving pompoms

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Few Super Stars among wing prospects

http://thehockeywriters.com/wings-cl...th-or-tactics/
I don't remember Red Wings' brass ever making such an assertion. But a few super-stars among the prospects would be a great thing. There are only a few super-stars in the NHL and only 2 currently on the Wings (a lot of teams don't even have one) so a few in the pipeline sounds very promising to me.

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http://thehockeywriters.com/wings-cl...th-or-tactics/
Quite a bit of spanking it to Napoleon there but he sort of gets it right. The Wings always slow play guys and that includes having very modest expectations. The big question is if we have another Pavs or Z will management let them rise to the level that best suits both them and the Wings or are they so petrified of the cap that they are more inclined to deny guys opportunities that in the end it ends up stunting their growth?

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Quite a bit of spanking it to Napoleon there but he sort of gets it right. The Wings always slow play guys and that includes having very modest expectations. The big question is if we have another Pavs or Z will management let them rise to the level that best suits both them and the Wings or are they so petrified of the cap that they are more inclined to deny guys opportunities that in the end it ends up stunting their growth?
Saying that there are a few super-stars among the prospects is probably being over optimistic, there are only a few super-stars in the NHL and only 2 on the Wings most teams don't even have one. So if there are a few in the system that sounds very promising to me.

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Saying that there are a few super-stars among the prospects is probably being over optimistic, there are only a few super-stars in the NHL and only 2 on the Wings most teams don't even have one. So if there are a few in the system that sounds very promising to me.
I think you're taking the word "few" too literally, to me it sounds like they're are trying to say that there are very little or no superstars in the pool, and not that there is "a few" (i.e 2-3) superstars in the pool. Overall I took it as a reiteration of one of the pool's biggest weakness, a can't miss bluechip/elite prospect, although Mrazek is making a strong case at being one.

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