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07-12-2013, 08:15 PM
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I think he's saying Gordon is a scratch?
Better be.

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Hall RNH Eberle
Perron Gags Yakupov
Morrow Gordon M.Martin
Jones D. Shore Brown
Smyth


Smid Coburn
Bogosian Petry
Ferrence J. Schultz


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07-12-2013, 09:59 PM
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Hall rnh ebs
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07-13-2013, 12:34 AM
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Hall - RNH - Yakupov
Perron - Gagner - Eberle
(Hemsky trade) - Gordon - Jones
Joensuu - Lander - Brown
Smyth

Ference - Schultz
Smid - Petry
Schultz - Belov
Klefbom, Potter

Dubnyk
Labarbara

PP1
Hall - RNH - Yakupov
Eberle - Schultz

PP2
Perron - Gagner - RNH
Ference - Belov

PK1
Gagner - Eberle
Ference - N. Schultz

PK2
Gordon - Jones
Smid - Petry

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07-13-2013, 10:59 AM
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Trade Hemsky to NAS for Gaustad. Sign Morrow.

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Perron-Nuge-Ebs
Morrow-Gordon-Jones
Eager/Smyth-Gaustad-Brown/Joensu

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07-13-2013, 11:43 AM
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Don't wanna be that guy, but Penner as 3LW still looks good. Sure it's unlikely, but he makes us a better team.

Penner-Horcoff-Hemsky was a legit 1st line a few years ago, Penner-Gordon-Hemsky would make a pretty good 3rd line still.

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Perron-Gagner-Yakupov
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Off topic but I kind of want to see a Perron-Gagner or Penner-Gordon line flanked by Mike Brown so we can call it the PG-13 line.

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07-13-2013, 12:22 PM
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I think smyth is really only useful in the offensive zone.

Would rather have him in the top six (a la holmstrom) or preferably to retire.

Still, Gordon is not an offensive player and hemsky is not a defensive player. Hence 3 scoring lines, Gordon on 4th, smyth on 2nd.

As it stands were not better off...

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07-13-2013, 12:37 PM
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Wonder why Mason Raymond hasnt signed yet.

Dont see any problem with him as 3LW.

Speed, with some offensive upside. Prefer him over Penner.

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07-13-2013, 12:42 PM
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Wonder why Mason Raymond hasnt signed yet.

Dont see any problem with him as 3LW.

Speed, with some offensive upside. Prefer him over Penner.
He's got speed and he's good defensively, but his offense comes very streaky and his best season came when he was playing with Ryan Kesler, a linemate of ability that he wouldn't be afforded in Edmonton. I think he could transition into a more defensively-sound player on a 3rd line with Gordon though, and become a real shutdown unit.

Apparently Penner's agent said that Oilers aren't interested at all so that's not happening.

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07-13-2013, 01:05 PM
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I think a guy we could get for the 3rd line for pretty much nothing is David Booth... Nucks have Higgins-Kesler-Kassian as second line and bunch of guys to fill the bottom six that are cheaper... plus Schroeder and Jensen need to start getting time with the big club.

Canucks will also need a bit more capspace to fill out their roster... so one year $4.5... we can eat that money no problem for a year... not sure what they will want though? Maybe 2014 3rd/2015 2nd + Musil + Pitlick/Hamilton?

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Booth-Gordon-Hemsky
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07-13-2013, 01:09 PM
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I think a guy we could get for the 3rd line for pretty much nothing is David Booth... Nucks have Higgins-Kesler-Kassian as second line and bunch of guys to fill the bottom six that are cheaper... plus Schroeder and Jensen need to start getting time with the big club.

Canucks will also need a bit more capspace to fill out their roster... so one year $4.5... we can eat that money no problem for a year... not sure what they will want though? Maybe 2014 3rd/2015 2nd + Musil + Pitlick/Hamilton?
Booth can be okay because he skates with drive and determination, so it makes him look like he's doing a lot when he really isn't. Still, I think the opposing teams see what the fans do and play him a little closer, not really sure how capable he is.

I think he's injured still though, but we're pretty meh about him in Vancouver. I think that package would get him.

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07-13-2013, 01:13 PM
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Wonder why Mason Raymond hasnt signed yet.

Dont see any problem with him as 3LW.

Speed, with some offensive upside. Prefer him over Penner.
Is that you Mason?

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07-13-2013, 01:35 PM
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man penner is so huge now i know why they call him DP

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07-13-2013, 01:43 PM
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What about Steckel as our 4th line Centre, I wouldn't hate Penner as 3rd line LW on a value contract.

Hall RNH Eberle
Perron Gagner Yakupov
Penner Gordon Hemsky trade
Smyth Steckel Jones
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Ference JSchultz
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07-13-2013, 01:47 PM
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Assuming no trades...

Perron-RNH-Eberle
Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
Jones-Gordon-Hemsky
Smyth-Lander-Brown
Joenssu, Eager

Smid-Petry
Ference-J. Schultz
N. Schultz-Belov
Larson

What I would like to see...

Perron-RNH-Eberle
Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
Penner-Gordon-Hemsky
Smyth-Lander-Jones

Problem with the line up right now is that there is really nothing that the team can do if we get injuries in the top 6. This will be compounded even more when we move Hemsky for a plug.

Keep Hemsky and sign Penner and you have a 3rd line that is responsbily good defensively and can pot some goals. Also in case of injuries on the wing you can move either Hemsky or Penner up and not be hurt by it.

If not Penner, Antropov would be another option (in some senses better as he can slot in LW or C).

Realistically it looks like the Oilers are done signing forwards.

In an ideal world we add a legit 3 line winger, another NHL caliber center and a really good top 4 d-man.

Don't see us doing any of those three things though. But then again I didn't think MacT would make a trade and then he traded for Perron. So you never know.

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07-13-2013, 02:14 PM
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If I were MacT, I would take a risk and sign Peter Mueller to a 1 year 2-way contract, similar to what Blum/Pouliot got. Have him on the 4th line, but bring him up into the top 6 in case of injury. Sure he's injury prone himself, but the dude can play both center and right wing and just gives us lots more flexibility. Plus he has some upside and his skills haven't deteriorated beyond salvation unlike a certain former Dallas Stars captain. Matt Halischuk would also be a nice addition in a similar capacity, although he can't play center and we can really only risk one project.

If the Oilers want to win, we need to get rid of Hemsky. Plain and simple. I'd much rather have a guy like Ryan Jones who puts his all in every shift than this lazy bum who spends half the season sulking about not getting first line minutes, and another one quarter floating about accomplishing nothing. Hopefully we can get a guy like Steve Bernier/David Moss/Patrick Eaves in return, but if I were a GM, I wouldn't even give a 2nd rounder for him.

As bad as Jerred Smithson was for us, David Steckel is a worse player and handing the roster spot to Lander without competition is just a disaster waiting to happen. We also need a backup goalie that isn't you know, a backup goalie. Trade Nick Schultz for honestly who cares. Preferably we can get a nice 3rd liner like Bernier/Moss/Eaves back, but he's just taking up a roster spot atm. Maybe Minnesota wants him back? I hear they're souring on Kyle Brodziak. Certainly would be a better option than Smithson. If Dubnyk is injured and we have to start LaBarbara for any length of time, we're ****ed. A certain Russian goaltender who fears the bear in the forest fits this description to a tee.

Finally, sign the burger king. Not only would he be a big help on the powerplay, because without Paajarvi we just lost another big body to park in front of the net, he's also an excellent even strength possession player and underrated defensively. The effort thing is overblown, Penner isn't some lazy bum who skips practice to eat fuzzy peaches and sour patch kids or something. He is just difficult to motivate to 100%, but he wont flinch even the slightest bit when coming to a teammate's defence. When he gets confident, he's an unstoppable force as seen in the playoffs. He certainly tries a lot harder than Ales Hemsky on the ice at least, and fans seem okay with keeping him in the lineup.

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron-Gagner-Yakupov
(honestly any combination of the top 6 could work, just switch things up if they get cold)
Penner-Gordon-Moss/Bernier/Eaves (anyone but Hemsky, tbh I'd rather have Liam Reddox/Zack Stortini playing here than Hemsky)
Joensuu/Hamilton/Mueller-Lander-Jones
Smithson/Brodziak

Smid-Schultz (I really want Eakins to give this pairinga go for at least a couple games, Kruger didn't even try it)
Ference-Petry
Belov-Larsen
Potter (I'd prefer Klefbom get half a season in the AHL to get used to the NA game)

Dubnyk
LaBarbara *cough*sign Bryzgalov*cough*

Smyth gets to cheer the team on from his uhh, permanent guest of honor seat in the "fan appreciation box".

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I think smyth is really only useful in the offensive zone.

Would rather have him in the top six (a la holmstrom) or preferably to retire.

Still, Gordon is not an offensive player and hemsky is not a defensive player. Hence 3 scoring lines, Gordon on 4th, smyth on 2nd.

As it stands were not better off...
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smyth is useful in the offensive zone.
Did you actually watch a single game last year? No team in the NHL, including the Flames and Predators, is bad enough to need Ryan Smyth in any offensive capacity. This franchise owes Ryan Smyth absolutely nothing, if anything, he owes us for wasting assets/money to bring him back.

We need to become a franchises that has no issue getting rid of former fan favorites/alumni players if it helps the team, ie) every single good team in the NHL. This holds moreso for Ales Hemsky than Ryan Smyth tbh, I don't care that he's the favorite player of a lot of fans, I was part of the age group where he was our best forward too, but the fact is nowadays he hurts the team just by being on it ala Smyth/Horcoff/Belanger/Whitney. I for one am done with his loser mentality/sense of entitlement/lack of effort, his sulking/moping/complaining about no longer being the 1st line RW both on and off the ice make him the exact type of player we need to purge from the organization. If the Oilers want any shot at being competitive, let alone making the playoffs, Ales Hemsky must not be wearing an Oilers jersey on opening night.

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07-13-2013, 03:01 PM
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Wonder why Mason Raymond hasnt signed yet.

Dont see any problem with him as 3LW.

Speed, with some offensive upside. Prefer him over Penner.
Raymond would be a wonderful replacement for Paajarvi on the 3rd.

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Anyone else thinking this roster is a mess right now?

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Anyone else thinking this roster is a mess right now?
The bottom 6 is awful, the rest is okay. There are a lot of question marks on D though.

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07-13-2013, 04:12 PM
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Anyone else thinking this roster is a mess right now?
We live and die by our top 6, Dubnyk, Smid, Petry, and Schultz.

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Anyone else thinking this roster is a mess right now?
What do you mean by mess? Mac T said he expects things to "slow down significantly now" after the Perron trade, so if this is what he is prepared to go with its clear to see his lineup.

Hall - Nuge - Eberle
Perron - Gagner - Yakupov
Jones - Gordon - Hemsky
Smyth - AHL'er - Brown
Joesnsuu

Ference - Schultz
Smid - Petry
N. Schultz - Potter
Belov/Larsen

What I mean by the fourth line center is that it will be either Lander, Arcobello or Acton. I sure hope he does something else though. In a perfect world it would be for a big top 4 D who plays physical. As it stands right now, pretty soft lineup. Skilled but soft.

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07-13-2013, 04:37 PM
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We're really never going to be like LA Kings or Boston Bruins, we're not built that way.

We are a skill based team and that's just all there is to it.

I think Hemsky will be shipped out for a grittier bottom six forward but that's about it.

In a few years when we have Nurse and Klefbom in the lineup and if their development has gone well and we've added a few more pieces, then I think we'll be more comparable to the Chicago Blackhawks. But ultimately we may just become our own thing.

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07-13-2013, 05:02 PM
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I love the oilers to death. but I cant stand our roster how it stands today......

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07-13-2013, 06:27 PM
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Hall-Nuge-Yak
Perron-Gagner-Eberle

Our top 2 lines look good. They should all be able to put up 60+ points.

Morrow-Gordon-Hemsky

Letting Gordon have 3rd line minutes is questionable, but it may work out. He's great on draws and that will generate offense. signing Morrow will allow us to have a solid 2 way 3rd line. Depending on Gordon, they should be able to put up 35-55 points each.

Smyth-Lander-Brown.

Joesnuu and Jones are healthy scratches, but should get in the lineup quite often. I would love to sign Mueller but there is no room for him. Wouldn't be surprised if Lander gets sent down and Smyth gets put in the middle, but Lander should be able to stick with the team.

Smid-Petry
Schultz-Schultz
Ference-Larsen
Belov/Klefbom

I really want to see Klefbom stick with the team, but a year in the AHL wouldn't be awful. Not sure Belov makes it out of training camp. It's between those two for the 7th defenceman.

Dubnyk
Labarbera

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07-13-2013, 06:59 PM
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What i'd like to see, but will for sure not happen.

Hall - Gagner - Eberle
Perron - Nugent Hopkins - Yakupov
Penner - Gordon - Jagr
Jones - Smith - Brown
Smyth/Jonesuu

Smid - Petry
Ference - J. Schultz
Belov - Hainsey
Larsen/Potter

Dubnyk
Labarbera

Cap Space: $1,960,833

Sign Penner 2 years/2.5 mil per, Jagr 1 year/4 mil per and Hainsey 2 years/3.5 mil per.
Hemsky for Zack Smith
Dump Nick Schultz for picks or bottom 6 help.

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