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07-13-2013, 03:16 PM
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We'll wait for our norwegian posters to provide a better translation then.
But this jives with the rumors that he would be signed 2 weeks ago (was it?) and then everything seems to come to a halting stop.
He is not saying that, basically he is speculating that the rangers would have agreed with his demand if they were not so tightly squeezed against the cap.

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He is not saying that, basically he is speculating that the rangers would have agreed with his demand if they were not so tightly squeezed against the cap.
I can see that too as Gag said.

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For now Zucc is a projected top 6 stop gap. At least one of Kreider, Kristo, or Fast will hopefully replace in the next year or two. People keep saying Zucc is a top 6 or bust type of guy, but look around the league there are teams that have "finesse" players in their bottom 6. See: Frolik in Chi or Gerbe in Buf. Zucc isn't just their for offense. He's also feisty and can provide that "agitator role." Do you guys think he can stick around as a bottom 6 PP specialist? Certainly better than having a guy like Asham or Powe in that spot IMO.

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http://www.tv2.no/sport/ishockey/zuc...v-4086948.html

Rough and fast translation, but you will get the idea.
Also, the reporter does not seem to be 100% on the new CBA and rules for arbitration

Zuccarello Denies asking for 12 million (2 million USD)

- We are not very far apart, says Zucca who believes there will be an agreement with New York Rangers.

On Thursday the New York Post wrote that Mats Zuccarello Aasen and the New York Ranges are far apart in the negotiations are far apart in the talks about a new contract.

This is denied by the main character himself.

-We are not far apart, so it will be worked out. Rangers can choose to trade me if they do not come to an agreement with my agents, but i dont thing that will happen, says Mats Zuccarello Aasen to Tv2.no

-Not that much

The newspaper writes that Zucca demands 12 million kroner (2 million USD) to sign a new contract, and that the Rangers only are willing to pay 3 million.

-12 million? That is too much. I do not wish to comment on the ammount i am asking for, but I do not believe its an unreasonable sum. Ive been with the club for more or less 3 years now, and have played well when given the chance to play. I contributed to them making the POs, and player well in the POs. So i am sure if they had money, we would have agreed sooner, explains the hockey star.

Every NHL club has a Salary Cap to consider, and after a few important re-signings the last few weeks, Ranger's wallet is getting thin.

If the parties does not find an agreement and the Rangers wont sign a new contract the Norwegian will become a so called Unrestricted Free Agent, and is allowed to go to another club.
For now he is a Restricted Free Agent, and can only talk to the Rangers.

-Several clubs interested

No lack of interest.

-According to my agents in the USA several clubs have been interested, but to be honest i focus only on the Rangers, and wish to come to an agreement with them.

- What is the offer you have recieved from the Rangers?

-I do not wish to say comment on, but I have been given a new offer after the opening offer, and we have choosen to continue negotiating on this. Either me or my agents feel that I am asking for too much.

The opening offer was 10% over his pay from last season, and was for one year. It was a so called Qualifying Offer which functions as a way for the club to maintain his rights.

Both Ryan McDonagh and Carl Hageling, who is in the same situation as the Norwegian, have resigned with the Rangers. But still they have not resigned their top scorer from last season Derek Stepan, or the Norwegian hockey player.

Demanded arbitration

It has made him, as one of 21 players in the NHL, to ask for arbitration where an independant 3rd person comes in and sets the players salary.

-I still think it will work itself out, and the asking for arbitration when the club and agents are not agreeing is not unusual.

If the Rangers do not accept the pay set in arbitration Zuccarello is free to leave for any other club.
Arbitration have a rumor of being an ugly process where both parties talks the other party down, and themselves up.

- I am prepared that it might get tough, and as i said i hope we can avoid it.
At the same time i have talked to several people who have been through it who say you talk trash in the meeting, but soon become friendly again. So that does not worry me, says the 25 year old.

-How long do you think it will take before a contract might be on the table?

– Its hard to say. Next week, or the week after that. If it goes to arbitration it will be August 25th.

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07-13-2013, 05:37 PM
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Come on, Bob!
We have both seen certain reactions when it regards Zucc that leans towards straight ridicule directed towards those who believe this guy will be a legitimate force.

People carry extreme sentiments towards this guy, one way or another. And while I am guilty of the same - I understand why others may feel differently. Certain Norwegian posters like Ken Guru and Frederickstad or something may provoke people with some weird sentiments - but lets remember what this guy looks like on the ice and not always fall back into the offseason short term memory
Hey hey, what have I said? I'm the one Norwegian who said he was to greedy with 2 mill. Should have taken 1.2 and run.

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07-13-2013, 06:24 PM
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Arbribration is not till August ****ing 25th? thats a joke

shorten that.

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Arbribration is not till August ****ing 25th? thats a joke

shorten that.
I know right? I'm also pissed that the sky is blue and water is wet.

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http://www.tv2.no/sport/ishockey/zuc...v-4086948.html

Rough and fast translation, but you will get the idea.
Also, the reporter does not seem to be 100% on the new CBA and rules for arbitration

Zuccarello Denies asking for 12 million (2 million USD)

- We are not very far apart, says Zucca who believes there will be an agreement with New York Rangers.

On Thursday the New York Post wrote that Mats Zuccarello Aasen and the New York Ranges are far apart in the negotiations are far apart in the talks about a new contract.

This is denied by the main character himself.

-We are not far apart, so it will be worked out. Rangers can choose to trade me if they do not come to an agreement with my agents, but i dont thing that will happen, says Mats Zuccarello Aasen to Tv2.no

-Not that much

The newspaper writes that Zucca demands 12 million kroner (2 million USD) to sign a new contract, and that the Rangers only are willing to pay 3 million.

-12 million? That is too much. I do not wish to comment on the ammount i am asking for, but I do not believe its an unreasonable sum. Ive been with the club for more or less 3 years now, and have played well when given the chance to play. I contributed to them making the POs, and player well in the POs. So i am sure if they had money, we would have agreed sooner, explains the hockey star.

Every NHL club has a Salary Cap to consider, and after a few important re-signings the last few weeks, Ranger's wallet is getting thin.

If the parties does not find an agreement and the Rangers wont sign a new contract the Norwegian will become a so called Unrestricted Free Agent, and is allowed to go to another club.
For now he is a Restricted Free Agent, and can only talk to the Rangers.

-Several clubs interested

No lack of interest.

-According to my agents in the USA several clubs have been interested, but to be honest i focus only on the Rangers, and wish to come to an agreement with them.

- What is the offer you have recieved from the Rangers?

-I do not wish to say comment on, but I have been given a new offer after the opening offer, and we have choosen to continue negotiating on this. Either me or my agents feel that I am asking for too much.

The opening offer was 10% over his pay from last season, and was for one year. It was a so called Qualifying Offer which functions as a way for the club to maintain his rights.

Both Ryan McDonagh and Carl Hageling, who is in the same situation as the Norwegian, have resigned with the Rangers. But still they have not resigned their top scorer from last season Derek Stepan, or the Norwegian hockey player.

Demanded arbitration

It has made him, as one of 21 players in the NHL, to ask for arbitration where an independant 3rd person comes in and sets the players salary.

-I still think it will work itself out, and the asking for arbitration when the club and agents are not agreeing is not unusual.

If the Rangers do not accept the pay set in arbitration Zuccarello is free to leave for any other club.
Arbitration have a rumor of being an ugly process where both parties talks the other party down, and themselves up.

- I am prepared that it might get tough, and as i said i hope we can avoid it.
At the same time i have talked to several people who have been through it who say you talk trash in the meeting, but soon become friendly again. So that does not worry me, says the 25 year old.

-How long do you think it will take before a contract might be on the table?

Its hard to say. Next week, or the week after that. If it goes to arbitration it will be August 25th.
The bolded was a question mark for me on what he actually meant to say, thanks for clearing that up and the better translation.

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no word on zucc?

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If I read that right, if the newspaper is saying that he wants $12M ($2M USD), and also that NYR is only willing to offer $3M ($500,000 USD), then the newspaper writers have some weird information.

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If I read that right, if the newspaper is saying that he wants $12M ($2M USD), and also that NYR is only willing to offer $3M ($500,000 USD), then the newspaper writers have some weird information.
Blasphemy. Just poor reporting. He said he had gotten a new offer after being qualified and did not disclose that amount. It could be anything but is definitely not 3M Norwegian kronas (= $500.000 USD).

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The article says that Zucc wants $2M USD, NYR are offering $1.5 Mill USD.

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The translation above is off on that line. That part is a summary (and currency conversion) of this Brooks article that they link.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...CRgvY0cqztSzJ?

They write it on the form of "He demands 2, and this is 0.5 more than the Rangers are willing to offer".

And Zucc says that it is not true that he demands 2m, and that they are not very far apart.

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He clearly says that he is asking for less than $2M in the article.

The newspaper had information that he was asking for that amount, but when asked to confirm it Mats said that it was too much and that he is asking for a more reasonable amount.

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The article says that Zucc wants $2M USD, NYR are offering $1.5 Mill USD.
He denied that he want 2 mill. "Thats to much" he said.

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My post was ment as a reply to BBK'ers and JCrusty. Sorry, should have quoted.

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My post was ment as a reply to BBK'ers and JCrusty. Sorry, should have quoted.
Feb 2004, 15 posts?

we are blessed to receive 2 whole posts from you this year.

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August 25? It begins next Monday.

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Hearings will be held in Toronto from July 22 to August 6, 2013.
http://www.nhlpa.com/news/21-players...ry-arbitration

The same schedule for years. Late July to early August.

21 players filed. Six players have already settled. Smith,Martinez,Muzzin,White,Bailey and Condra. Bailey signed a 5 year deal worth $3.3M giving up 3 years of group III. The 3 defensemen and Condra signed for between $1M-$1.25M. That's where Zuccarello should really come in at.

The dates have been set. The New York media is in summer mode.

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The Canucks currently have $5.41 million in cap space remaining with 19 players signed. But they need to sign Tanev and likely another defenceman as well as RFA forward Dale Weise. Weise is scheduled to go to salary arbitration on July 27, but it’s just as likely he’ll get a deal done before getting to his hearing.
http://blogs.theprovince.com/2013/07...-glacial-pace/

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For two sides which "aren't far apart",there seems to be a difference. This for a player who has barely played in the NHL.

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Feb 2004, 15 posts?

we are blessed to receive 2 whole posts from you this year.
I think BB had more than that in the first 10 minutes after registering lol.

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For two sides which "aren't far apart",there seems to be a difference. This for a player who has barely played in the NHL.
Or there is no hurry since Zooks wants to be a Ranger and the Rangers want him. Maybe the Rangers are looking in to some trades of other players.

I read Damien Brunner a rookie with less games played than Zooks and similar point production (despite playing with Zetterberg/Datsyk turned down a 2.5 mill offer and is asking for 3-3.5 mill.

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Rather have Mason Raymond at this point.

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Zuc's arbitration date is July 31st.

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http://www.nhlpa.com/news/2013-14-sa...ation-schedule

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Detroit balked at the asking price for Brunner

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The Wings had talked many times with Brunner, but his asking price of $3 million to $3.5 million per season for two-to-three years was more than the Wings were willing to give a one-dimensional player with one NHL season to his credit.
http://www.freep.com/article/2013070...damien-brunner

Helene St.James speculated on the $2.5M

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Brunner is the most likely to be signed. Including bonuses, his salary-cap hit last season was $1.35 million. Hes clearly got offensive talent, if not a skill set that extends to such other dimensions as penalty killing and forechecking.

His value comes from scoring and the fact hes one of the few Wings who shoots right-handed.

Somewhere in the $2.5-million-per-season range should work for both sides.
http://www.freep.com/article/2013062...roit-red-wings

Kenny Holland moved on

The Wings are tapped out

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Wed like to do a move or two, but Im not sure we can,'' Holland said. If we cant make a move Im OK with our team and we'll go to camp. If we can make a move and free up some money then certainly re-signing Dan Cleary is a possibility. But, unless we move somebody, we arent signing anybody.''
http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index....to_make_a.html

Brunner is still sitting on the sidelines without a contract for next season.

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Brunner is still sitting on the sidelines without a contract for next season.
There was speculation yesterday that he was close to a deal with the Devils...but apparently nothing is imminent.

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