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07-13-2013, 10:01 PM
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I couldn't possibly disagree more strongly. The performance of the Sens after bringing in Cory Clouston and trading for Campoli and Comrie exceeded everybody's expectations. We closed out the season playing very well yet still had several teams between us and the final playoff spot.

The fact is we had no business being buyers at the trade deadline that year. We were NEVER going to make the playoffs so we wasted a first round pick for nothing. It would have been the perfect time to start our rebuild. Failing to do so set us back two years. We also screwed up our draft position. Comrie was unrestricted. We lost him. Campoli was obtained when prices were at their highest. It was a STUPID move by any imaginable measure.

Ryan O'Reilly was just of the many excellent players available for the pick we wasted.
I'm sick of this "we could have picked so and so" We also could have picked Philippe Paradis, Carter Ashton, Dylan Olsen or one of a dozen other busts picked around that time. Drafting is not a science.

We had a decent team and we weren't out of the playoffs yet. Also, we knew the pick wasn't going to be a lottery pick so there was very little risk.

The playoffs are a lottery as well, and you never know what team can put it together. I'd give up every first round draft pick from now until the end of time for a guaranteed shot at the playoffs every season.

It wasn't a "all in for the playoffs" move either. We weren't acquiring a UFA for nothing. Comrie could have ended up re-signing if he had fit into the team better, and Campoli was a possible long term solution for us. This wasn't a sacrifice for the future trade. Very few players picked that late even end up making the NHL, much less have the impact Campoli was having. Sure, Campoli "busted" but at the time of the trade he was at least as likely to make an NHL impact as any late first round pick.

You can wax eloquently about how we COULD have had Ryan O'Reiley, but in the end we made a move that made us a better team at a critical juncture of a bad season. Not only did we get Comrie but we got to try out Chris Campoli and see for ourselves if he was the real deal.

Think of it this way: Instead of picking in the first round of 2009, we gave up a 2011 second rounder we got a first rounder back in 2011 and moved up two spots. Also, we happened to get to try out Campoli and Comrie as a bonus.

Not a huge loss.

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I'm sick of this "we could have picked so and so" We also could have picked Philippe Paradis, Carter Ashton, Dylan Olsen or one of a dozen other busts picked around that time. Drafting is not a science.

We had a decent team and we weren't out of the playoffs yet. Also, we knew the pick wasn't going to be a lottery pick so there was very little risk.

The playoffs are a lottery as well, and you never know what team can put it together. I'd give up every first round draft pick from now until the end of time for a guaranteed shot at the playoffs every season.

It wasn't a "all in for the playoffs" move either. We weren't acquiring a UFA for nothing. Comrie could have ended up re-signing if he had fit into the team better, and Campoli was a possible long term solution for us. This wasn't a sacrifice for the future trade. Very few players picked that late even end up making the NHL, much less have the impact Campoli was having. Sure, Campoli "busted" but at the time of the trade he was at least as likely to make an NHL impact as any late first round pick.

You can wax eloquently about how we COULD have had Ryan O'Reiley, but in the end we made a move that made us a better team at a critical juncture of a bad season. Not only did we get Comrie but we got to try out Chris Campoli and see for ourselves if he was the real deal.

Think of it this way: Instead of picking in the first round of 2009, we gave up a 2011 second rounder we got a first rounder back in 2011 and moved up two spots. Also, we happened to get to try out Campoli and Comrie as a bonus.

Not a huge loss.
You've managed to miss the crux of the argument which is that there is a time to be a seller and a time to be a buyer. When you've been all but mathematically eliminated from the playoffs it is not the time to be a buyer. You're right about the insignificance of first round picks though because I can't think of any first rounders who ever amounted to anything.

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