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07-14-2013, 10:45 AM
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07-14-2013, 11:24 AM
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Rinaldo - Hall - Talbot

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Gustafsson - Schenn
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Schenn - LeCavalier - Simmonds
Gagne - Couturier - Read
Talbot - Laughton - Hall/Rinaldo

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Grossmann - Meszaros/LTIR

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What about Streit?

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07-14-2013, 07:12 PM
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Rinaldo - Hall - Talbot

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Gustafsson - Schenn
Grossmann - Streit

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Hartnell - Giroux - Voracek
Schenn - LeCavalier - Simmonds
Gagne - Couturier - Read
Talbot - Laughton - Hall/Rinaldo

Timonen - Coburn
Gustafsson - Schenn
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Not playing a rookie all year and then adding him in for the playoffs seems ass-backwards, and destined to fail...especially if he's going into the shutdown role.

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07-14-2013, 08:13 PM
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Not playing a rookie all year and then adding him in for the playoffs seems ass-backwards, and destined to fail...especially if he's going into the shutdown role.
Not saying its right, but many teams actually do it. Boston for example did with Krug.

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07-14-2013, 08:24 PM
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Not playing a rookie all year and then adding him in for the playoffs seems ass-backwards, and destined to fail...especially if he's going into the shutdown role.
Lots of rookies make their regular debut in the playoffs, and most of them step up to the challenge.

2013: Krug
2013: Toffoli
2013: Pageau
2012: Kreider
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In fact, I can't even really find an example of someone who made his debut as a regular in the playoffs and failed. It would hardly be a recipe for failure especially if it's a limited role like the poster suggested.

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07-14-2013, 08:25 PM
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Not saying its right, but many teams actually do it. Boston for example did with Krug.
That's true, he did well too. I still think he should have much more of a taste of the NHL before he gets thrown to the playoff wolves.

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07-14-2013, 08:40 PM
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Not saying its right, but many teams actually do it. Boston for example did with Krug.
Boston didn't play Krug because he was their rookie secret weapon. Half their D got hurt and they needed to ice a team. That Krug was so good was to his credit, he beat out Hamilton and Bartkowski for a spot.

I doubt we'll be able to bring Laughton up during the playoffs. London is hosting the Memorial Cup, and if Laughton gets sent down, my money is on the Knights acquiring him. With the possibility that both Horvat and Domi make their NHL teams, they will need a centre.

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07-14-2013, 09:58 PM
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Boston didn't play Krug because he was their rookie secret weapon. Half their D got hurt and they needed to ice a team. That Krug was so good was to his credit, he beat out Hamilton and Bartkowski for a spot.

I doubt we'll be able to bring Laughton up during the playoffs. London is hosting the Memorial Cup, and if Laughton gets sent down, my money is on the Knights acquiring him. With the possibility that both Horvat and Domi make their NHL teams, they will need a centre.
If im not mistaken a few other teams like nyr did also. Happens alot. Not saying its right but teams ussually dont play the agitate/fighters/guys who are one dimensional. They add a young guy that might help them out in other areas.

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07-14-2013, 10:02 PM
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If im not mistaken a few other teams like nyr did also. Happens alot. Not saying its right but teams ussually dont play the agitate/fighters/guys who are one dimensional. They add a young guy that might help them out in other areas.
Tom Wilson did it last season for the Caps too.

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07-14-2013, 10:22 PM
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Ottawa did it two years ago with Silverberg and Mark Stone. They seem to do it a lot actually.

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07-14-2013, 11:14 PM
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I doubt we'll be able to bring Laughton up during the playoffs. London is hosting the Memorial Cup, and if Laughton gets sent down, my money is on the Knights acquiring him. With the possibility that both Horvat and Domi make their NHL teams, they will need a centre.
There's a better chance Laughton is in the NHL this year and Horvat & Domi are back in London than that scenario.

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07-15-2013, 01:12 PM
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Yeah, I go with Larry's situational necessity angle than the secret-weapon ploy for rookies in the playoffs. That's a nice benefit of having quality prospects who are primed to step in when needed. It's also the upside of the defensive decimation, when players like Gustafsson and Lauridsen got big minutes when called up, and Manning and Konan even touched NHL ice.

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07-23-2013, 11:37 AM
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At this point, I would be pretty content with them not making any more moves...other than maybe resigning Gagne after they officially LTIR Pronger.

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I know it seems silly to have a 4 million dollar dman as your 7th...but I think he could be worth hanging on to at the start of the season. Lets face it, guys are going to get hurt...the more dmen you have, the better. Even if he plays in limited games, if he shows he can play he can give Homer some options later in the season.

It is hard to really predict how a season is going to play out. I think the current roster is solid, but injuries or other unforeseen things can come up...so I like the idea of having cap room during the season. This way, Homer can properly evaluate the team mid season and actually be able to fill any needs they may have for once.

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07-23-2013, 12:06 PM
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At this point, I would be pretty content with them not making any more moves...other than maybe resigning Gagne after they officially LTIR Pronger.

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I know it seems silly to have a 4 million dollar dman as your 7th...but I think he could be worth hanging on to at the start of the season. Lets face it, guys are going to get hurt...the more dmen you have, the better. Even if he plays in limited games, if he shows he can play he can give Homer some options later in the season.

It is hard to really predict how a season is going to play out. I think the current roster is solid, but injuries or other unforeseen things can come up...so I like the idea of having cap room during the season. This way, Homer can properly evaluate the team mid season and actually be able to fill any needs they may have for once.
If Meszaros is on the roster at the start of the season and healthy, you can bet he will be in the lineup over Gustafsson for two reasons: he's better than Gustafsson, and it would better to showcase him if we still want to trade him.

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07-23-2013, 12:12 PM
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Meszaros has to go for salary cap reasons.

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07-23-2013, 01:21 PM
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If Meszaros is on the roster at the start of the season and healthy, you can bet he will be in the lineup over Gustafsson for two reasons: he's better than Gustafsson, and it would better to showcase him if we still want to trade him.
1. Gustafsson is the better defenseman now and has been for a year.
2. Meszaros hasn't been cleared yet, and we're pushing August.
3. Showcasing Meszaros only makes sense if we're putting him in for 5-10 games and then trading him. Otherwise, it's going to stunt Gustafsson's growth. You can't send Gustafsson to the minors either because he's not waiver exempt meaning you will definitely lose him.
4. Playing Meszaros over Gustafsson does not even significantly make our defense better considering the minutes they're both getting. That's of course assume that Meszaros is even better than Gustafsson at this point, which he isn't.
5. You're not committing to Meszaros after this year, but you have a commitment to Gustafsson long-term. There's no reason to ignore your long-term plans just to get a little better value for Meszaros, whose value is so low at this point that it's pointless.

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07-23-2013, 07:47 PM
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1. Gustafsson is the better defenseman now and has been for a year.
2. Meszaros hasn't been cleared yet, and we're pushing August.
3. Showcasing Meszaros only makes sense if we're putting him in for 5-10 games and then trading him. Otherwise, it's going to stunt Gustafsson's growth. You can't send Gustafsson to the minors either because he's not waiver exempt meaning you will definitely lose him.
4. Playing Meszaros over Gustafsson does not even significantly make our defense better considering the minutes they're both getting. That's of course assume that Meszaros is even better than Gustafsson at this point, which he isn't.
5. You're not committing to Meszaros after this year, but you have a commitment to Gustafsson long-term. There's no reason to ignore your long-term plans just to get a little better value for Meszaros, whose value is so low at this point that it's pointless.
And we all know there will be one injury going on to the D. And if that happens, we then could Gervais in the lineup...which I would like to avoid. I am all for trading Mez for a pick though. I would like to have a better #7 though as a safety net.

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09-07-2013, 01:46 PM
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lecavalier-giroux-voracek
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09-07-2013, 03:09 PM
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Did Matt Read get hit by a bus or something?

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Braydn-G-Vorabeast
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I agree with this. The only only change I would make is switching McGinn and Talbot. It would give McGinn a more offensive role on the team where he could hopefully flourish.

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what do you think of the trade value of matt read he is ufa after this season?

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what do you think of the trade value of matt read he is ufa after this season?
Worth way more to us than his value. Eklund says we have interest in Cleary if we shed salary(Mezz i assume). Ithink a 3rd line of Cleary Couts Read would. Be wicked.

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Worth way more to us than his value. Eklund says we have interest in Cleary if we shed salary(Mezz i assume). Ithink a 3rd line of Cleary Couts Read would. Be wicked.
Cleary would be a better option than Gagne for a bottom six role if they are looking for a veteran presence IMO.

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Putting Laughton on the 4th line would be a waste IMO, I'd rather send him to juniors. I'm worried about him playing center for us. I don't think Vinny will play wing except for the PP, and that leaves the 3rd line spot for either Couts or Laughton. I am anxious to see how this will play out over the next couple years.

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