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07-15-2013, 03:46 PM
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I have a feeling kristo makes it out of camp for a starting roster

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07-15-2013, 03:51 PM
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I don't really get why Kristo is projected to play in the NHL by so many of you, his 9 game stint in the AHL seems to have been lacklustre at best. Guess it's the new toy syndrome.. Callahan is not a third line player and should play on the second line
He came from playing a full year in the NCAA to then play on a new team, late in the year with a new coach and a new system and new teammates.

In 9 games, he registered 3 assists. Only 2 PIM. I like the 2 PIM as his style of play and 3 assists is not too shabby. I def see him being a regular NHL player.

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07-15-2013, 04:21 PM
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He came from playing a full year in the NCAA to then play on a new team, late in the year with a new coach and a new system and new teammates.

In 9 games, he registered 3 assists. Only 2 PIM. I like the 2 PIM as his style of play and 3 assists is not too shabby. I def see him being a regular NHL player.
His season in the NCAA was good, however that does not necessarily translate to the NHL. I'm not saying he can't play in the NHL but I'm against handing out roster spots based on expectations alone. If the kid has a good camp and preseason give him a chance, especially with hags and cally most likely out.

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They were decent together in Columbus. I'm not sure why they didn't click here.
They seldom played on the same line in Columbus

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07-15-2013, 07:03 PM
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Hagelin-Stepan-Callahan (Top Checking Duties, defensive zone starts)
Kreider-Richards-Nash (Favorable offensive zone mins)
Pouliott-Brassard-Kristo (Favorable offensive zone mins)
Boyle-Moore-Dorsett (Defensive zone start line, secondary checking duties against teams with depth scoring)

Miller, Lindberg, Powe filling in on occasion.
Mikos, I really like your thinking and it's perfectly possible that we will end up with a lineup balanced as yours.

Especially with Cally and co becoming the so called "third line" in terms of checking responsibility while being the second line in terms of ice time.

Depth and durability is this teams strength and it's hard to see how we can build two top heavy lines that can carry us offensively.

In the end, I do like the depth we have and competition we will have for so many positions. It's the top line and PP that worry me.

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07-16-2013, 08:49 AM
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They seldom played on the same line in Columbus
Not what a different Jackets fan told me, but thanks for correcting me.

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Not what a different Jackets fan told me, but thanks for correcting me.
I don't remember them playing together too often the last couple seasons Nash was in Columbus. Perhaps they did earlier than that

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when's my boy andrew yogan going to make the team

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07-31-2013, 08:10 AM
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I like these lines, the 3rd line is soft yeah but it's got goal scoring ability up and down
I fear that any 3rd line we try to construct will appear "soft" because we have 3 soft centers, plus Pouliot is pretty notorious for shying away from contact.

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07-31-2013, 08:14 AM
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when's my boy andrew yogan going to make the team
Probably never, to be honest.

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07-31-2013, 08:35 AM
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I fear that any 3rd line we try to construct will appear "soft" because we have 3 soft centers, plus Pouliot is pretty notorious for shying away from contact.
There is no way around it.


Here would be my opening night line-up (assuming Callahan and Hagelin will not be ready):

Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Pouliot-Brassard-Zuccarello
Pyatt-Richards-Kristo/Miller
Boyle-Moore-Dorsett
Powe, Asham

Looks awful.

When they are back:

Hagelin-Stepan-Nash
Kreider-Brassard-Zuccarello
Pouliot-Richards-Callahan
Boyle-Moore-Dorsett
Pyatt, Powe, Asham

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07-31-2013, 08:41 AM
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There is no way around it.


Here would be my opening night line-up (assuming Callahan and Hagelin will not be ready):

Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Pouliot-Brassard-Zuccarello
Pyatt-Richards-Kristo/Miller
Boyle-Moore-Dorsett
Powe, Asham

Looks awful.

When they are back:

Hagelin-Stepan-Nash
Kreider-Brassard-Zuccarello
Pouliot-Richards-Callahan
Boyle-Moore-Dorsett
Pyatt, Powe, Asham
Im not sure how good Pouliot is defensively, but I think you're going to need to put Callahan on a line with either Kreider or Zuccarello (probably Kreider since hes a LW).

Kreider-Brassard-Zuccarello couldnt scare me more when it comes to defense.

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07-31-2013, 08:42 AM
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The lineup without Callahan and Hagelin looks AWFUL. The first 10 games, all on the road and without those two, are going to be huge for this team.

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07-31-2013, 08:43 AM
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Looking at all the proposed lineups, it's hard to disguise the fact that this team is a little soft and there aren't a lot of two-way forwards up and down the roster. The Rangers are going to have to field at least one line that has the potential to get pushed around a bit and get pinned in their own zone, unfortunately.

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Im not sure how good Pouliot is defensively, but I think you're going to need to put Callahan on a line with either Kreider or Zuccarello (probably Kreider since hes a LW).

Kreider-Brassard-Zuccarello couldnt scare me more when it comes to defense.
True. But Pouliot-Richards-Zuccarello isn't good either. The Rangers ave (3) good top-9 defensive forwards. Callahan, Hagelin, Stepan. Hagelin and Stepan have good chemistry with Nash. One of the other lines is going to be weak defensively unless they move Dorsett or Boyle up to help add some defensive awareness.

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07-31-2013, 08:46 AM
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Looking at all the proposed lineups, it's hard to disguise the fact that this team is a little soft and there aren't a lot of two-way forwards up and down the roster. The Rangers are going to have to field at least one line that has the potential to get pushed around a bit and get pinned in their own zone, unfortunately.
Yep. Maybe they can make a bit of a puck possession line with the Brassard and Zuccarello tandem. Hard to gauge.

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07-31-2013, 09:39 AM
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Yep. Maybe they can make a bit of a puck possession line with the Brassard and Zuccarello tandem. Hard to gauge.
Eh, I dunno.

Kind of hard to play a puck possession game when you're getting manhandled. I could see Brassard/Zuccarello being modestly successful on the rush, but I don't think they have the physical attributes to consistently possess the puck in the offensive zone. Guess what Im saying is I'd keep these two away from each other.

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Eh, I dunno.

Kind of hard to play a puck possession game when you're getting manhandled. I could see Brassard/Zuccarello being modestly successful on the rush, but I don't think they have the physical attributes to consistently possess the puck in the offensive zone. Guess what Im saying is I'd keep these two away from each other.
They played very well together at the end of the season though.

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07-31-2013, 09:47 AM
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Or keep them together since they seemed to develop some chemistry last year and pair them with Cally. Z can play lw.

Hagelin-Stepan-Nash
MZA-Brassard-Callshan
Kreider-Richards-Pouliot
Boyle-Moore-Dorsett

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07-31-2013, 12:36 PM
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Hagelin- Steps -Cally worked well together last year

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07-31-2013, 12:41 PM
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Im not sure how good Pouliot is defensively, but I think you're going to need to put Callahan on a line with either Kreider or Zuccarello (probably Kreider since hes a LW).

Kreider-Brassard-Zuccarello couldnt scare me more when it comes to defense.
Yeah that's what I'm saying. Brass is pretty neutral defensively, IMO, so he needs at least 1 W who can play some D. We don't know if Beav is gonna rebound this year (by rebound, I mean 'not suck'), or if he'll be just as bad as, if not worse than, last year.

Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Boyle-Brassard-Zucc
Pouliot-Richards-Dorsett
Pyatt-Moore-Miller

Just to hold down the fort until Cally/Hags return.


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07-31-2013, 01:30 PM
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With the forward corps we have, the way I'd construct our lines would be top-9 and a defensive/checking line. That could either be done in a 1-2a-2b manner, or a more balanced A-B-C.

1-2a-2b:

Hagelin-Stepan-Nash
Pouliot-Richards-Callahan
Kid/Pyatt-Brassard-Zuccarello
Pyatt/Moore-Boyle-Dorsett

A-B-C:

Pouliot-Stepan-Nash
Hagelin-Richards-Kid/Pyatt/Boyle
Zuccarello-Brassard-Callahan
Pyatt/Moore-Boyle-Dorsett

With injuries we either have to go 1-2-3-KIDS!, or A-B-C.

1-2-3-KIDS!:

Richards-Stepan-Nash
Pouliot-Brassard-Zuccarello
Pyatt/Moore-Boyle-Dorsett
Kid/Pyatt-Kid/Moore-Kid

The kid line would obviously get very sheltered minutes.

A-B-C:

Kid-Stepan-Nash
Pouliot-Richards-Kid
Kid/Pyatt-Brassard-Zuccarello
Pyatt/Moore-Boyle-Dorsett

More balance, but one or two kids really have to show that they belong. Fortunately, we have a ton of kids that may or may not be ready that all have top-6 potential.

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07-31-2013, 04:22 PM
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Lineup looks brutal without Callahan/Hags. Our D and Hank are going to have to come up huge. Hopefully at least one of Lindberg/Fasth/Kristo/Miller surprises. Can Brassard play wing? Lindberg looked very good defensively at the world championships. Maybe he shows he belongs in training camp and then he can either play wing (doubtful) or center with Brassard if he can play wing. It's a leap of faith, but crazier things have happened. Not thrilled with throwing him right into the top 6 but I'd really like a defensive presence on that line.

I'm not going to count on Richards bouncing back. IMO he can either really drag down this roster or give us one of the strongest forward groups down the middle in the east.

Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Lindberg?-Brassard-Zuccarello
Pouliot-Richards-Fasth/Miller/Kristo
Moore-Boyle-Dorsett

Pyatt sucks. Get him off this team.



As I'm typing this I think we might be better off swapping Lindberg and Boyle. Boyle played with Brassard and Zucc in the playoffs and had success. Also forces Richards to get going otherwise he will have a kid replace him on the 3rd line. Confident Lindberg can handle 4th line minutes as of right now. Not sure about Fasth/Miller/Kristo on the 3rd.

Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Boyle-Brassard-Zuccarello
Pouliot-Richards-Fasth/Miller/Kristo
Moore-Lindberg-Dorsett

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