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07-17-2013, 11:32 AM
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will girg get a shot in the nhl next year?
He'll probably start in the A so he can hit the ground running and be the #1 midseason call-up. Larsson and Grigs are the two favored make the team out of camp.

Granted, Z is an absolute ******* beast and could go hard enough in September to make the roster.

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Sorry to burst bubbles, but Grigorenko had bust written all over him, he still has tons of offensive abilities but I doubt his game will ever fully translate to become a top 6 NHL forward.

And Girgensons by a good amount especially because of his offensive potential.

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He's sort of become the great hope to usher in this culture change and new mentality we all want.
He tweeted about hitting the weight room/eating a bowl of nails immediately after being drafted.

His attitude is everything this team needs going forward. Dude literally acts like he's carrying the hopes of his country on his back.

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I have been wondering about something for quite some time and I feel it is a good place to ask. How come Girgensons was able to jump directly to the AHL after 2 years in the USHL ?

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Sorry to burst bubbles, but Grigorenko had bust written all over him, he still has tons of offensive abilities but I doubt his game will ever fully translate to become a top 6 NHL forward.

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I have been wondering about something for quite some time and I feel it is a good place to ask. How come Girgensons was able to jump directly to the AHL after 2 years in the USHL ?
USHL does not have the same agreement governing players as the CHL leagues do. He was set to go to Vermont but changed his mind, signed with Buffalo and turned pro instead.

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USHL does not have the same agreement governing players as the CHL leagues do. He was set to go to Vermont but changed his mind, signed with Buffalo and turned pro instead.
So any USHL player that gets drafted can do the same ? Like McCarron if he wasnt going to London ?

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So any USHL player that gets drafted can do the same ? Like McCarron if he wasnt going to London ?
It's possible. There was a fracture between Girgensons and the WHL team holding his rights -- Kelowna -- and that may have played into him not going to the 'dub. But yes, there is only the team's view of what they think is the best development position for the player when dealing with a USHLer signing a contract. McCarron could go to the Bulldogs, if the Habs thought that best.

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So any USHL player that gets drafted can do the same ? Like McCarron if he wasnt going to London ?
McCarron can go to the A at any time, as he wasn't drafted out of the CHL.

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07-17-2013, 12:02 PM
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Sorry to burst bubbles, but Grigorenko had bust written all over him, he still has tons of offensive abilities but I doubt his game will ever fully translate to become a top 6 NHL forward.
You should probably get your knife and fork ready for the crow you'll be eating sometime soon.

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07-17-2013, 12:18 PM
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The consensus I've come to is that De La Rose is considered to be slightly better defensively at this stage (and from what I've seen, he looks like a possible defensive beast down the middle), while Girgensons has more offensive upside. As a general rule of the thumb, I would rather have Girgensons for that reason, although I was very happy when Montreal took De La Rose at 34 this year.

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07-17-2013, 02:16 PM
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The consensus I've come to is that De La Rose is considered to be slightly better defensively at this stage (and from what I've seen, he looks like a possible defensive beast down the middle), while Girgensons has more offensive upside. As a general rule of the thumb, I would rather have Girgensons for that reason, although I was very happy when Montreal took De La Rose at 34 this year.
Girgensons is known as a beast in all areas of the game (loves playing the body, backchecks hard, and blocks a lot of shots). Sabres fans are just starting to awe at his offensive potential, because he finally broke through at the pro level at the end of the season for Rochester. He was one of their best players by the end of the regular season and was definitively their best player in the playoffs. My favorite thing about him, though, is his attitude. Just no quit.

This post-playoff interview about sums it up for me:
Interviewer (paraphrased because I don't remember how exactly the question was worded): You had 3 goals in the series. Do you feel like individually you had a good playoff?
Girgensons: No. We lost.

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Girgensons is known as a beast in all areas of the game (loves playing the body, backchecks hard, and blocks a lot of shots). Sabres fans are just starting to awe at his offensive potential, because he finally broke through at the pro level at the end of the season for Rochester. He was one of their best players by the end of the regular season and was definitively their best player in the playoffs. My favorite thing about him, though, is his attitude. Just no quit.

This post-playoff interview about sums it up for me:
Interviewer (paraphrased because I don't remember how exactly the question was worded): You had 3 goals in the series. Do you feel like individually you had a good playoff?
Girgensons: No. We lost.
I was always skeptical of him because I knew he was a rock on defense but I was scared that his offense wouldnt translate. He seems to have quite the complete package. Sounds like a 2nd line center for years to come if he develops like he should.

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07-17-2013, 02:52 PM
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He's one of those guys where even if his raw offensive talent is lacking, his work ethic is such where he's sure-as-**** going to do whatever it takes to maximize the tools that he does have.

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I went into this thread not knowing anything about girgs now I want him on the habs lol

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Sorry to burst bubbles, but Grigorenko had bust written all over him, he still has tons of offensive abilities but I doubt his game will ever fully translate to become a top 6 NHL forward.
I'm not sure what this has anything to do with anything in this thread other than that a couple people pointed out that they actually like Girgensons better than Grigorenko.

Girgensons is a player to be excited about on Buffalo - he seems like he's going to be one of those special players who can do it all.

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I went into this thread not knowing anything about girgs now I want him on the habs lol
I did not want to pick him at the draft. I really didnt like what he brought and the lack of offense. Man did he prove me wrong..

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07-17-2013, 06:46 PM
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Girgensons work ethic is the best in the entire Sabres organization at was a leader at 18 with Rochester. Not saying he is the next Toews but it's been awhile since a player was drafted with the natural leadership of Girgensons.

These are the type of players who surpass expectations.

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07-17-2013, 07:11 PM
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I really hope people dont start to over-value Girgensons. His work ethic is stellar but he is behind Pysyk, Grigorenko and Risto IMO.

However I attribute that to how deep the Sabres are and not a knock on Girgensons.

If all goes well he could be a 60-70 point player that has those leadership qualities. However you never know with how good his work ethic is!

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Girgensons is known as a beast in all areas of the game (loves playing the body, backchecks hard, and blocks a lot of shots). Sabres fans are just starting to awe at his offensive potential, because he finally broke through at the pro level at the end of the season for Rochester. He was one of their best players by the end of the regular season and was definitively their best player in the playoffs. My favorite thing about him, though, is his attitude. Just no quit.

This post-playoff interview about sums it up for me:
Interviewer (paraphrased because I don't remember how exactly the question was worded): You had 3 goals in the series. Do you feel like individually you had a good playoff?
Girgensons: No. We lost.
Sounds like a player to me.

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Was hoping Girgensons would drop to the Flames' pick in 2012

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Was hoping Girgensons would drop to the Flames' pick in 2012
He did. Buffalo took him with the Flames pick.

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Was hoping Girgensons would drop to the Flames' pick in 2012
He did lol

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Was hoping Girgensons would drop to the Flames' pick in 2012
Well, technically he did fall to their pick, but I think the Flames didn't feel Girgensons had enough jank, to be frank.

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Habs fan, but not close girgs could be great

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