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07-16-2013, 02:54 AM
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What's to happen with Tim's parade plans if the Leafs don't win the Cup? Maybe he'll spew a 5-year plan upon Leafs fans as well, and when that doesn't happen, he could make further excuses and blame the CBA for not allowing them to build the best team possible. He had plenty of excuses when he was Kings President, but let's not forget that it was his meddling that got Blake, Luc, and Philippe Boucher out of town, and they all won Stanley Cups elsewhere.

I'm thankful that Leiweke eventually wised up and stood out of hockey decisions when he relented to Dean Lombardi, however, Toronto isn't Los Angeles. Every word that comes out of his mouth will be minced and dissected and studied under a microscope. Good luck Tim, you're going to need it.
Yep.

We can only hope that Tim hires Justin Bieber a doctor while he is up there

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Its his job... Is he supposed to come out and say "I am not really worried about it, because we aren't going to win anyways, lol."

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07-16-2013, 03:37 AM
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He's basically a SALES MAN ... and a damn good one ... I don't see the problem either, it's kind of his job to pump up the fan base of his team and attract as many dollars as he can, be it from Ticket Sales, or Advertising partners, which is what he's doing with these public statements ...

He, for better or worse, had that same vision and talked the same talk with us in LA and eventually brought the cup here ... I give him his due and say thanks, glad you brought in Lombardi, thank you for your service, and best of luck in Toronto ... you'll need it.
Good post, Puck!

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Yep.

We can only hope that Tim hires Justin Bieber a doctor while he is up there
Bieber's gunna need a plastic surgeon after Keyshawn gets done with him.

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07-17-2013, 03:16 PM
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Former Kings exec Tim Leiweke is as chatty as ever in new Toronto job

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“I don’t want the players walking in the hallways of the Air Canada Centre and seeing pictures from 1962,” he added. “Get rid of those pictures and tell them, this is your legacy.”

FYI: The Maple Leafs last won the Stanley Cup in 1967, the longest drought in the NHL.
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The first word that came to my mind when reading this is: buffoon.

How can he not know it was 1967? Jesus, even people who don't follow hockey know that.

I am wondering what Toronto fans think of that.

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07-17-2013, 03:17 PM
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He's already inserting his foot into his mouth and the season hasn't even started yet. Just wait until the excuses start flowing after a dismal season.

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07-17-2013, 03:56 PM
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All talk.
Well, yeah.

Technically he doesn't play with the team.

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07-17-2013, 04:03 PM
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Well, yeah.

Technically he doesn't play with the team.
Pretty sure he is implying "all talk, no (real) action."

I mean, hey. I can arrange a victory parade in Winnipeg. Same effect.

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07-17-2013, 05:14 PM
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**** man, I'm expecting him to lace up some skates and go play any day now! "The fans of Toronto, the greatest ****ing fans in the universe, no galaxy, deserve a number one center! Here I am! Go Leafs Go!!! Start making the rings. Let's rattle off ten straight Cup wins! Any of you want to buy a bridge I'm selling?"

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07-17-2013, 06:02 PM
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I'm curious how he planned a route when he doesn't even know where streets will still be in 2208 a.d.

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07-17-2013, 06:55 PM
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Former Kings exec Tim Leiweke is as chatty as ever in new Toronto job



The first word that came to my mind when reading this is: buffoon.

How can he not know it was 1967? Jesus, even people who don't follow hockey know that.

I am wondering what Toronto fans think of that.
He is right, though, they did win the Cup in 1962. He didn't say that was their last Cup.

There was another article in The Star today: http://www.thestar.com/sports/2013/0...%2Fsports.html

I'm REALLY glad he's not going to have all those ridiculous ceremonies celebrating the past because it only emphasizes how brutal the last 40+ years have been. About the old pictures, I think he can leave some up but take some down as well. Put the emphasis on present and future and see how it goes.

He's either going big or going home.

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Doesn't this dumbass want Rob Blake?

Doesn't Rob Blake have some kind of roots in Ontario?

Sounds like a perfect fit to me.

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No truth to the rumor Leiweke never drew up parade plans for the Kings because he didn't know how to spell Figueroa.

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Who care what Leiweke says about the Leafs or the Kings? You are acting the girl who's ex boyfriend has a new girlfriend.

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07-18-2013, 01:12 AM
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I'm curious how he planned a route when he doesn't even know where streets will still be in 2208 a.d.

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Who care what Leiweke says about the Leafs or the Kings? You are acting the girl who's ex boyfriend has a new girlfriend.
It always cracks me up when someone begins a post "who care(s)" as though these messaging boards didn't have a reason to exist.

And my reply is always the same. If you don't like the thread, skip the thread. Comment on stuff you care about, do not disrespect other posters just because they are commenting on a topic you don't wish to.

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07-18-2013, 11:57 AM
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Leiweke wants to be a ‘hero’ in Toronto

The comments on this blog entry are pretty funny.

This guy's ego cannot reasonably fit on this planet.

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07-18-2013, 12:35 PM
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Tim Leiweke scaling new heights of human hubris and ego: Feschuk

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“I think (the Leafs) need a few ass-kickings, and that’s one that will stay with them for a long time,” Leiweke told Bloomberg News this week. “I think it will pay huge dividends in the long term no matter how painful it was.”
So let’s get this straight. The Leafs, who’ve been getting their heinies handed to them steadily since the 1960s, need “a few ass-kickings.” Giving up a three-goal lead in the dying minutes of Game 7 was, in the new CEO’s mind, “the best thing that could have happened.” If he’d arrived in the moments after Vince Carter capped his college graduation day by clanking the jumper that could have sent the Raptors to the Eastern Conference final in 2001, one assumes he would have heralded that brick as the perfect disappointment to inspire the next decade of dominance.
It’s laughable stuff for alert Toronto sports fans, who probably thought they’d experienced the living pinnacle in human hubris and ego when they lived through four years of Brian Burke. A little more than two weeks’ worth of Leiweke suggests that, in the cultivation of executive arrogance, the new guy in town is intent on scaling new heights.

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This guy needs to shut the hell up. I laughed at this though - "It’s laughable stuff for alert Toronto sports fans, who probably thought they’d experienced the living pinnacle in human hubris and ego when they lived through four years of Brian Burke."

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07-18-2013, 12:48 PM
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Tim Leiweke scaling new heights of human hubris and ego: Feschuk
Sorry, but I agree with Leiweke on that point.

A good ass-kicking is often the omen of greater things for good teams (not that I'm saying Toronto is one).

Remember our Game 4 collapse against San Jose in 2011?

Detroit in 96 getting thumped by Colorado in round three after their record season?

The Oilers getting blitzed by the Kings in the Miracle on Manchester and then the following year getting swept by the Islanders in the finals?

There is a long list of painful defeats for a team prior to their rise to the top. Most teams don't come along like the Hawks and after years of doing nothing, suddenly make the 3rd round one year and win the cup the next (like they did in 2009 and 2010 respectively). Usually, a team endures one (or a few) really shocking and/or painful defeats in the playoffs, whether it be a one game blitz, like us against San Jose, or a couple of series in a row (like Detroit in the finals in 1995 and the semi-finals in 1996) right before they make that leap up.

They say you need to learn to lose before you can learn to win, and sometimes that's very true.

I still think that Game 4 disaster against San Jose in 2011 built a ton of character into our team that won the cup the next year. 15 of the players that played in that 2011 series were with the Kings when they won the cup the next season.

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07-18-2013, 01:18 PM
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Not so long a list. You only mentioned 4.

There may also be a list of teams that got thumped and never recovered. The columnist mentions one.

I think the whole "must experience pain first" argument is kind of bogus. You can point to the Lakers in 1980 as a prime example of that. Some teams don't need "pain" they just have the talent already to win titles.

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07-18-2013, 01:19 PM
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He's been doing that since 1997. I am still mad at myself for believing his ******** from 1997-2002.

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Leiwekes right. Is been the problem of the leafs for decades. Lose, panic, dump players, spend money, and then lose again. They've never wanted to spend the years needed to build a team from scratch and at the least bit of adversity would dump everything they'd built. Firing Burke was just the last in a long line of serious long term mistakes.

This whole phenomina is a near constant in Canadian hockey but god nows we've done the same thing. Couple of more individual lost game and DL gets fired and I'd bet the whole team gets thrown away by the new guy.... No cup, core, and another 5 year plan. Two or three more loses and that would have been us.

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Not so long a list. You only mentioned 4
Because I'm not going to through each and every Stanley Cup winner and pin point who did/didn't suffer agony before glory. I just named a few off the top of my head. That said, my list of those who did is longer than your list of those who didn't (and in a different sport too).

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There may also be a list of teams that got thumped and never recovered. The columnist mentions one.
As did I (Chicago). Never said there weren't some teams who didn't, I simply said it's a common thread for many Cup champions to suffer that painful moment before going on the win it all.

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I think the whole "must experience pain first" argument is kind of bogus. You can point to the Lakers in 1980 as a prime example of that. Some teams don't need "pain" they just have the talent already to win titles.
As I said, some times it doesn't happen. It does happen a lot though. There's a reason many players talk about learning to win through those painful moments. Gretzky for example has spoken repeatedly (including in his autobiography) about how seeing the Islanders win the cup in 1983 was a huge learning experience for him and Kevin Lowe (and I presume other Oilers as well) and credited it with being crucial to the Oilers winning four cups in the next five years.

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Leiwekes right. Is been the problem of the leafs for decades. Lose, panic, dump players, spend money, and then lose again. They've never wanted to spend the years needed to build a team from scratch and at the least bit of adversity would dump everything they'd built. Firing Burke was just the last in a long line of serious long term mistakes.

This whole phenomina is a near constant in Canadian hockey but god nows we've done the same thing. Couple of more individual lost game and DL gets fired and I'd bet the whole team gets thrown away by the new guy.... No cup, core, and another 5 year plan. Two or three more loses and that would have been us.
Burke is a very polarizing figure here. I think it was a smart move to get rid of him because he was always pissed off, always looking to fight with someone and made himself the face of the team. No with Nonis, he's got the hockey smarts, he's quiet and stays in the background and lets the players be the face of the team. It is much more pleasant for me as a resident of Toronto not to have to listen to that loudmouth as he picks one fight after another with various people. Slowly, the players are starting to emerge as the important parts of the team and the people we see and think of when the Leafs are mentioned.

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