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07-17-2013, 02:52 PM
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Sure why not, then we can have threads that whine about having "given away" Carey Price because that's how we roll in Montreal. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
It was the same thing at the draft we drafted big guys and fans screamed bust. We pick small skilled guys and they say we are smurfs.


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07-17-2013, 02:53 PM
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It was the same thing at the draft we drafted big guys and fans screamed bust. We pick small skilled guys and they say we are smurfs.

Bienvenue a Montreal!!!!

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07-17-2013, 03:04 PM
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Montreal, where you can go from hero to zero in just two weeks.

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Montreal, where you can go from hero to zero in just two weeks.
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I know this is a nitpick but can we stop calling these hypothetiocal threads "speculation" as it makes it sound like an actual deal is afoot vs. someone just pulling something out of their @ss

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I would trade Price in a second for some blue-chip defense and a power forward.
Not exactly against or for trading anyone, value just needs to be there no matter who's traded.

I'm just puzzled how you expect us to win regularly without getting a goalie in return. Don't tell me you would go the Flyers way of goaltending, that's psychopath talk. If you can't get a goalie in the trade for Price, other teams are going to ask for the moon if the Habs were to ask for some other team's goaltender. We'd be at a disadvantage.

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07-17-2013, 03:25 PM
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Trade Price - NO!

I think he's gonna have a bounceback year next year under Stephane Waite and he'll prove to everyone that he is a top 5 goalie in the league, like if Waite can turn Crawford and Niemi into great goalies, imagine what he could do with Price.

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07-17-2013, 03:28 PM
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vanek yes

keep price!

get bigger, help price in front of the net, make the hab crease feared, right now there is just a big welcome mat in front of the crease.

MB will fix the crease part. tougher

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I would trade Price in a second for some blue-chip defense and a power forward.
Out of morbid curiosity, who goes in nets?

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Out of morbid curiosity, who goes in nets?
He probably wants us to tank and get Ekblad in '14 and McDavid in '15

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No, but mostly because Miller is now 33 years old and Price is only 25.

I've been a Price fan since draft day, but I think he's been mishandled more than once (started by not sending him for a year in the AHL, then trading Huet and no good backup heading into the playoffs, etc. Unfortunately, I think Price is missing something between his hears... probably confidence. He reminds me more and more of guys like Fleury and Luongo.

Still hoping that the new goalie coach and the sports psychologist the Habs hired can bring him to the next level, but I think what we see is what we'll get with him... a good, top-20 NHL goalie. If a good offer came along I'd consider a trade, but ONLY if the trade is really worth it.

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07-17-2013, 04:03 PM
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Price is entering his prime, 25 and already have 6-7 yrs experience. He'll get better with a new goalie coach. I would trade Price for Miller+Vanek+2 first round picks.

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I would trade Price in a second for some blue-chip defense and a power forward.
I assume you're being facetious, since the Habs would immediately have to trade valuable assets, such as a blue chip Dman and a power forward, for a suitable replacement. If you are even half-serious, your whimsy has little more merit than pulling the goaltender for a sixth attacker in all 60 minutes of regulation time. Sure, the Habs would score more goals, but losing 30-8 would not please the Bell Centre fans.

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Gretzky got traded. Twice. So that's all I have to say about the possibility.

1-for-1, it'd just be a terrible trade for us. Miller is over the hill. Price is 10 years younger, bigger, stronger, faster. Not as good as Miller in his prime but he will be, and more.

So the trade is really about who you'd include apart from Miller. That's the interesting part. I'd ask for Vanek and Ristolainen. If you think Fucale can be another Price in 3-4 years, then that's not so crazy (similar to Halak deal). In exchange I'd give 'em a D prospect (not called Beaulieu or Tinordi) and Leblanc. Im probably asking for too much, but Vanek is UFA next season and Risto is unproven.

Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Vanek is a hell of a top line.

Tinordi-Subban
Beaulieu-Ristolainen

Could be a hell of a top 4 pairings.


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Not exactly against or for trading anyone, value just needs to be there no matter who's traded.

I'm just puzzled how you expect us to win regularly without getting a goalie in return. Don't tell me you would go the Flyers way of goaltending, that's psychopath talk. If you can't get a goalie in the trade for Price, other teams are going to ask for the moon if the Habs were to ask for some other team's goaltender. We'd be at a disadvantage.
I think you can be very successful with a 'solid' goalie, and not relying on a future 'vezina winner' to lead you. You can hide a lot of flaws with a solid blueline and tight checking team as well.

I know it can go both ways, but trading Price shouldn't ever be out of the question if we can improve the team with a few moves.

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07-17-2013, 04:45 PM
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As is, even if Price doesn't reach superstar status he's still a solid #1 goalie. A legit #1. It's not worth the risk.

Vanek on the hand, I'd inquire about for sure. However, price would be massive and reasonably so.

I stand by notion habs should've been in on Ryan. I think habs(like any team) can use some quality vs quantity.

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07-17-2013, 05:12 PM
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Out of morbid curiosity, who goes in nets?
Hit the FA market?

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There's a guy outside my house with a picture of a flying pig. No joke. So sure, maybe Price for Miller.

No. Not even with the flying pig. Not happening.

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Hit the FA market?
Any UFA who has heard that the Habs have traded Price would be in the driver's seat and demand much more than he's worth.

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Someone is thinking outside of the box with this thread..


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If Schneider can fetch Bo Horvat, I'd want Horvat + Luongo + a bit more for Price.

Listened to a radio interview with Luongo in Vegas, where he was talking to a couple of Vancouver sport reporters a week or so after the draft. Luongo was saying all the right things but he clearly isn't happy with what has transpired.

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As is, even if Price doesn't reach superstar status he's still a solid #1 goalie. A legit #1. It's not worth the risk.

Vanek on the hand, I'd inquire about for sure. However, price would be massive and reasonably so.

I stand by notion habs should've been in on Ryan. I think habs(like any team) can use some quality vs quantity.
Stand as much as you like and wear comfortable shoes. Sure Bergevin would like to add quality. However, Ryan alone couldn't elevate them by an order of magnitude. He'd have to trade for more Ryans. By the end of the day he'd have depleted a lot of assets and probably exceeded the cap. I'd say the Habs have to give their prospects more time (and I certainly don't mean one preseason) before they can assess how much they'd have to add from the trade/UFA markets. Premature trades = panic = folly.

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Stand as much as you like and wear comfortable shoes. Sure Bergevin would like to add quality. However, Ryan alone couldn't elevate them by an order of magnitude. He'd have to trade for more Ryans. By the end of the day he'd have depleted a lot of assets and probably exceeded the cap. I'd say the Habs have to give their prospects more time (and I certainly don't mean one preseason) before they can assess how much they'd have to add from the trade/UFA markets. Premature trades = panic = folly.
I don't see how adding a player like Ryan is a bad thing in any scenario. We finished 2nd in conference last year and we'd add a legit top 6 winger(top 3 really...) who is young, big and talented.

Call me crazy but acquiring players like that kind of make it easier to forget about prospects. At end of the day, having a guy like Ryan removes a long term need that prospects may or may not be able to achieve.

Either way, how would acquiring a Bobby Ryan type player for what Ottawa gave be considered a 'premature' trade. That wording throws me off.

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If Schneider can fetch Bo Horvat, I'd want Horvat + Luongo + a bit more for Price.

Listened to a radio interview with Luongo in Vegas, where he was talking to a couple of Vancouver sport reporters a week or so after the draft. Luongo was saying all the right things but he clearly isn't happy with what has transpired.
Why would Luongo be unhappy? He should feel more secure than he has been for quite a while. His heir apparent was traded for a draft pick that turned into a prospect at a different position.

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