HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Central Division > Chicago Blackhawks
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Carcillo Dealt to Los Angeles for a 2015 6th/5th-round Pick

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
07-17-2013, 07:55 AM
  #51
coldsteelonice84
Registered User
 
coldsteelonice84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 25,570
vCash: 10592
Quote:
Originally Posted by zytz View Post
Ty for posting this. Was getting tired of hearing how Bollig does exactly what DC did.
Yeah, they aren't even close, DC >> Bollig, as in, much better than. We'll see what happens, obviously, we can win without him but I don't see how this move makes the team better unless it precludes another move to bring someone in.

coldsteelonice84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 09:06 AM
  #52
Hawkaholic
Registered User
 
Hawkaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: London, Ont.
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,354
vCash: 500
Meh, another replaceable player gone, and we clear cap room for one of the young kids to step up.

Bollig doesn't replace Carcillo, because Carcillo and Bollig are 2 different players. Carcillo already said he doesn't really want to fight anymore, where as Bollig will take on pretty much anybody.

I would say Ben Smith or Jimmy Hayes will take Carcillos spot, which isn't a drop off at all.

Hawkaholic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 10:59 AM
  #53
HawkinMI
Registered User
 
HawkinMI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Country: United States
Posts: 2,895
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 View Post
Yeah, they aren't even close, DC >> Bollig, as in, much better than. We'll see what happens, obviously, we can win without him but I don't see how this move makes the team better unless it precludes another move to bring someone in.
The Hawks signed Carcillo as a physical presence. He may have provided that early on, but after his injury he was too slow to really tear it up out there. I hate bringing this into it, but he doesn't really fight either. Bollig at least will stand up to other players. But in my eyes unless he's absolutely needed for a game he WILL be replacing Carcillo. In the press box.

How does this not make the Hawks better? He sat in the pressbox almost every night and was an unnecessary burden on the cap. This gives the Hawks a chance to bring up a young guy who could prove himself and actually play consistent minutes on the team.

Bowman by this point has shown his hand to us all for like 5 minutes. He's analyzing last season and trimming the fat off of the team. The Hawks have a stocked cupboard of forward prospects ready to come up and play in the NHL right now.

The last thing this team needs is Daniel freaking Carcillo to stand in the way of that. We already know guys like J. Hayes and B. Smith are at least at Carcillo's level of play, and have the potential to be better.

HawkinMI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 11:09 AM
  #54
Trance Kuja
Global Moderator
2nd Coming.
 
Trance Kuja's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Earth.
Country: United States
Posts: 46,045
vCash: 500
He was hampered by injuries, and honestly, he's pretty redundant now. I appreciate what he offered though.

Trance Kuja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 11:09 AM
  #55
coldsteelonice84
Registered User
 
coldsteelonice84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 25,570
vCash: 10592
I like it to make room for Morin, not Bollig. Bollig should start in the AHL and be called up when needed.

coldsteelonice84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 11:58 AM
  #56
Hawkaholic
Registered User
 
Hawkaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: London, Ont.
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,354
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 View Post
I like it to make room for Morin, not Bollig. Bollig should start in the AHL and be called up when needed.
Disagree. Bollig is the 13th forward, no sense of having Morin up and sitting in the press box.

Hawkaholic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 12:05 PM
  #57
coldsteelonice84
Registered User
 
coldsteelonice84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 25,570
vCash: 10592
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkaholic View Post
Disagree. Bollig is the 13th forward, no sense of having Morin up and sitting in the press box.
I don't think he would. The 13th forward should be a rotation of whoever has things to work on practice. I'd rather Morin, Hayes and Smith stay on the roster all year, share two spots and each get somewhere from 30-80 games.

coldsteelonice84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 12:12 PM
  #58
HockeySensible
Smug Teuvo
 
HockeySensible's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,841
vCash: 500
There were already spots for Morin/Hayes/Smith to battle for. The 13th forward spot is for Bollig.

Stalberg and Frolik's spots are what Morin, Hayes and Smith will be battling for. Seeing as Smith has a one-way contract, and will need to clear waives to be sent down, it's safe to assume he'll be on the team. That means, Morin and Hayes will battle for Stalberg's spot on the third line.. and at this point, I'd be pretty shocked if Morin didn't grab that spot.

Whoever loses (likely Hayes, IMO), will be far better served playing a large role (on the ice, and as a leader) in Rockford than sitting in the pressbox for 80-90% of the games. There will always be call-ups during the year.

HockeySensible is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 12:13 PM
  #59
Hawkaholic
Registered User
 
Hawkaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: London, Ont.
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,354
vCash: 500
I'd rather them be playing big minutes in Rockford than just practicing with the big club.

Bollig plays 25 Games
Handzus plays 57 Games

A certain combination of Pirri, Smith, Morin, Hayes, Leblanc play every game either in the NHL or AHL.

Hawkaholic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 12:19 PM
  #60
DisgruntledHawkFan
Moderator
 
DisgruntledHawkFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago
Country: United States
Posts: 21,797
vCash: 500
Send a message via ICQ to DisgruntledHawkFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by HockeySensible View Post
There were already spots for Morin/Hayes/Smith to battle for. The 13th forward spot is for Bollig.

Stalberg and Frolik's spots are what Morin, Hayes and Smith will be battling for. Seeing as Smith has a one-way contract, and will need to clear waives to be sent down, it's safe to assume he'll be on the team. That means, Morin and Hayes will battle for Stalberg's spot on the third line.. and at this point, I'd be pretty shocked if Morin didn't grab that spot.

Whoever loses (likely Hayes, IMO), will be far better served playing a large role (on the ice, and as a leader) in Rockford than sitting in the pressbox for 80-90% of the games. There will always be call-ups during the year.
Yup.

DisgruntledHawkFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 03:09 PM
  #61
Bubba88
Toews = Savior
 
Bubba88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Bavaria
Country: Germany
Posts: 24,236
vCash: 500
without the injury problems, I doubt we would have dealt DC away

Bubba88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 04:11 PM
  #62
Cullksinikers
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: 'Merica
Country: United States
Posts: 14,525
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cullksinikers View Post
It's probably a 6th. If he plays more than half the season, maybe it becomes a 5th or something.
I don't know the conditions, but it's a 6th with a chance to become a 5th.

Cullksinikers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 04:15 PM
  #63
Cullksinikers
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: 'Merica
Country: United States
Posts: 14,525
vCash: 500
If Carcillo plays 40 games, it becomes a 5th. This is no guarantee based on his quality of play and injury history.

Cullksinikers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 04:17 PM
  #64
TorMenT
Go Blackhawks!
 
TorMenT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Rockford, IL
Country: United States
Posts: 3,890
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cullksinikers View Post
If Carcillo plays 40 games, it becomes a 5th. This is no guarantee based on his quality of play and injury history.
It's most likely a 6th then.

TorMenT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 04:18 PM
  #65
Blue Liner
Registered User
 
Blue Liner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chicago
Country: United States
Posts: 4,393
vCash: 500
Was always a big proponent of Carcillo being brought here but he was never the same player after that knee injury. I liked him prior to that and what he brought but he really didn't bring much after that injury. Too many talented kids chomping at the bit for spots and this opens one up, so, good move. I wish him nothing but the best in LA and he can find his old form, except for games against the Hawks.

Blue Liner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 04:19 PM
  #66
DisgruntledHawkFan
Moderator
 
DisgruntledHawkFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago
Country: United States
Posts: 21,797
vCash: 500
Send a message via ICQ to DisgruntledHawkFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cullksinikers View Post
I don't know the conditions, but it's a 6th with a chance to become a 5th.
Would have been pleased with a Klinkhammer conditional seventh. He's a shell of his former self.

DisgruntledHawkFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 07:41 PM
  #67
SLarmer28
Registered User
 
SLarmer28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 4,644
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkaholic View Post
Disagree. Bollig is the 13th forward, no sense of having Morin up and sitting in the press box.
Disagree. Handzus is the 13th forward and should be called to duty only in the case of injury.

SLarmer28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 08:42 PM
  #68
AbeLincolnsGhost
Registered User
 
AbeLincolnsGhost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Ashland, OH
Country: United States
Posts: 818
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to AbeLincolnsGhost
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLarmer28 View Post
Disagree. Handzus is the 13th forward and should be called to duty only in the case of injury.
You think Bollig is better than Handzus?

AbeLincolnsGhost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 08:49 PM
  #69
SLarmer28
Registered User
 
SLarmer28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 4,644
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by AbeLincolnsGhost View Post
You think Bollig is better than Handzus?
Don't you think the Chicago Blackhawks need a team cop on the ice during the regular season? Besides, Handzus is 36 years old and needs to be phased out.

SLarmer28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 09:16 PM
  #70
HockeySensible
Smug Teuvo
 
HockeySensible's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,841
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLarmer28 View Post
Don't you think the Chicago Blackhawks need a team cop on the ice during the regular season? Besides, Handzus is 36 years old and needs to be phased out.
Handzus won't play every game, but he's not the 13th forward heading into the season; Brandon Bollig is. That's pretty indisputable.

HockeySensible is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 10:07 PM
  #71
DontTazMeBro
LoveYouRyanNash
 
DontTazMeBro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Country: United States
Posts: 1,984
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by HockeySensible View Post
First, Chicago has tons of prospects knocking on the door. That's not going to happen where anyone will be "rushed". Second, a few NHL games for a guy like Danault, McNeill or Ross here or there isn't going to hurt their development at all.
whose knocking on the door? Morin pirri, beach?
we're gonna be running on like 4 rookies..

__________________
Stanley Cup Champions
1934 1938 1961 2010 2013
R.I.P Ryan Nash.
Old username: LoveYouRyanNash
GO HAWKS!

Last edited by DontTazMeBro: 07-17-2013 at 10:13 PM.
DontTazMeBro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-17-2013, 11:03 PM
  #72
HockeySensible
Smug Teuvo
 
HockeySensible's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,841
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DontTazMeBro View Post
whose knocking on the door? Morin pirri, beach?
we're gonna be running on like 4 rookies..
Morin, Stanton, Pirri, J.Hayes, Smith, LeBlanc and arguably Clendening (still needs work though) are all knocking on the door.

Then, in the next tier, you have guys like Danault, McNeill, Dahlbeck, Ross, etc. who, while all needing more seasoning, could play a game or two in Chicago next year and be solid.

HockeySensible is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-18-2013, 09:04 AM
  #73
Hawkaholic
Registered User
 
Hawkaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: London, Ont.
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,354
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLarmer28 View Post
Disagree. Handzus is the 13th forward and should be called to duty only in the case of injury.
And who wins faceoffs for this team on the 4th line?

Bollig is clearly the 13th forward, Zeus will be a great 4th line C.

Hawkaholic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-18-2013, 09:06 AM
  #74
Hawkaholic
Registered User
 
Hawkaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: London, Ont.
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,354
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLarmer28 View Post
Don't you think the Chicago Blackhawks need a team cop on the ice during the regular season? Besides, Handzus is 36 years old and needs to be phased out.
No, I don't. What do we need a cop for? To protect Toews and Kane? Who did that last year? Bollig played a limited amount of games, and Mayers/Carcillo are not cops.

Hawkaholic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-18-2013, 11:56 AM
  #75
Blackhawkswincup
Global Moderator
 
Blackhawkswincup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Chicagoland
Country: United States
Posts: 103,285
vCash: 340
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cullksinikers View Post
If Carcillo plays 40 games, it becomes a 5th. This is no guarantee based on his quality of play and injury history.
One thing Hawks have going for them is Carter + Richards + Stevens connectiong in LA

Could see Carcillo become regular based on those 3 individuals input

Blackhawkswincup is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:08 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.