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07-17-2013, 07:43 PM
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Turning Hodgson into a better two-way player

It's been mentioned a lot around here since he was acquired, and it was validated this past season: Hodgson is not a good defensive center.

However, heralded as a top two-way player in juniors, he has certainly exhibited the IQ and awareness of a good d-zone player in the past.

That said, what's stopping him from blossoming at the pro level? Is it his footspeed? IQ? Commitment? Youth?

I feel that his work ethic and natural ability will allow him to become a competent defensive forward. But how does Rolston get him there?

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Youth. He just needs more time, he'll be fine.

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From what I see, I think he watches the puck too much and not the opposing player. He's generally in OK position, but gets caught puck watching.

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Youth. He just needs more time, he'll be fine.
Also has yet to have a full training camp with buffalo.

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Porter and Larsson.

Hodgson and Ennis were asked to be the 1-2 offensive and defensive forwards for Buffalo last year (something that only works if your center depth looks like Kopitar/Richards, Datsyuk/Zetterberg, Bergeron/Krejci, etc). Simply being able to divide scoring and defending duties between the top and bottom six will be a huge developmental advantage this season.

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Does anyone know if Hodgson has been training with Gary Roberts this season?

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Porter and Larsson.

Hodgson and Ennis were asked to be the 1-2 offensive and defensive forwards for Buffalo last year (something that only works if your center depth looks like Kopitar/Richards, Datsyuk/Zetterberg, Bergeron/Krejci, etc). Simply being able to divide scoring and defending duties between the top and bottom six will be a huge developmental advantage this season.
I completely agree(though I do have my reservations about a fringe player-porter and a rookie-Larsson spear heading our defensive game)

Im curious how you feel about Rolston's abilities to discern and get those matchups compared to Ruff last year?

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Youth. He just needs more time, he'll be fine.
You're probably right. Cody is a smart player, and he works hard at his craft.

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Cody clearly has a high hockey IQ and is known for being a tireless worker. I'm sure he and the coaching staff both recognized his weak play in his own end and he's doing whatever he can to improve in that department. Unfortunately for him, a lot of the growing in your own end simply comes from experience, but I have no doubt he'll make every effort to become a better defensive player.

I understand the frustration with his defensive play, but for one of the few bright spots on the team last season, people are waaay too hard on the guy. He's 23. Hasn't had a training camp with the Sabres, and the two 'seasons' he's played with the team were a) after getting dealt and b) a lockout shortened year. Still has played more games for the Canucks than he has for Buffalo.

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From what I see, I think he watches the puck too much and not the opposing player. He's generally in OK position, but gets caught puck watching.
Agreed that this is his main issue. Definitely does get caught flat footed a lot, but it's absolutely fixable.

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even if he never becomes anything more than neutral or adequate Im fine with it since Girgs, Larsson, Kea, and Kompher are coming...not every good scoring center can be Bergeron or Datsyuk

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I have high hopes for Hodger next season.

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I completely agree(though I do have my reservations about a fringe player-porter and a rookie-Larsson spear heading our defensive game)
Considering it was Hecht/Grigs/Ellis/McCormick handling the bottom six under Ruff, it can't get any worse. Plus, all the projected bottom six wingers have some solid defensive value. Ott-Flynn, Folgino/Leino-Kaleta can cover for their center's deficiencies to some degree.

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Im curious how you feel about Rolston's abilities to discern and get those matchups compared to Ruff last year?
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

(really though, almost any professional coach would be better at defining roles and matching lines than Lindy)

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Considering it was Hecht/Grigs/Ellis/McCormick handling the bottom six under Ruff, it can't get any worse. Plus, all the projected bottom six wingers have some solid defensive value. Ott-Flynn, Folgino/Leino-Kaleta can cover for their center's deficiencies to some degree.


Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

(really though, almost any professional coach would be better at defining roles and matching lines than Lindy)
I take it you have much more faith in Rolston lol?

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sorry lol I replied justttt after you edited^

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Not an edit, just magical, color changing text.

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My question: why does Hodgson need to be a 2 way forward? can't we have a pure offensive forward partnered with a 2 way player on the wing?

Why hamper his offense learning curve by making him play a 2 way game when his abilities are to stick handle and score.

Shouldn't the defense be responsible for getting the puck out of their own end? why do our forwards all have to suffer playing and offensive and defensive game?

Im all for Hodgson camping the blue line to score.

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My question: why does Hodgson need to be a 2 way forward? can't we have a pure offensive forward partnered with a 2 way player on the wing?

Why hamper his offense learning curve by making him play a 2 way game when his abilities are to stick handle and score.

Shouldn't the defense be responsible for getting the puck out of their own end? why do our forwards all have to suffer playing and offensive and defensive game?

Im all for Hodgson camping the blue line to score.
Yeah, we can. His name is Grigorenko.

You underestimate Cody's abilities if you think he's a pure offensive center.

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No clue what you guys mean....The guy is already developing his defensive play. Just needs time!


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Random, somewhat topical question, but does anyone have the source for the Ruff quote that went something like "I expect the same results/style of play whether it's *random offensive player* or Matt Ellis lining up across from *random star* (I think it was Malkin)."

Google is being useless.

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No clue what you guys mean....The guy is already developing his defensive play. Just needs time!

Was at this game. He was possessed in that 3rd period.

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If other guys pan out, there's a part of me that wouldn't mind seeing him on the wing down the road.

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I don't have a problem with Cody's defensive play at this point. It's actually pretty average for an offensive-minded center.

As previously mentioned, I think a full offseason or two in Buffalo makes a boat load of difference. There really isn't anything keeping Cody from blossoming defensively.

5 years from now I wouldn't at all be upset with Cody being a 2-way, 60 point 2C on a deep Sabres team.

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