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Milan Lucic 81 68.64%
Kris Letang 37 31.36%
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07-21-2013, 03:01 PM
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This team is overflowing with talented Defense, and anemic at left wing.

Top of that, I think Letang is overrated. He's a 4th forward, and he's good at that, but his defensive zone play is so far from Norris it's not even funny.

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07-21-2013, 03:08 PM
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went with lucic because there is no other forward right now (that i can think of) that does what he does...you can find other dmen to give you what letang brings that are less injury prone

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07-21-2013, 03:16 PM
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Haha what?
He's not. Being a good offensive dman doesn't mean he can run a PP. He's never run the PP in Pittsburgh.

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07-21-2013, 03:19 PM
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Lucic. it's not just about points, it's also about intimidation. The total package.

I am not a big fan of Letang as others.

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07-21-2013, 03:49 PM
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Letang, easily. Lucic is a 60 point PF. Letang is a Norris-trophy finalist.

And I'm a Lucic fan and a Letang "hater".
I don't understand what point people are trying to make by bringing up Letang was a Norris finalist across half a season. That's lovely, he was a top vote-getter for a trophy he didn't win and that is generally regarded as being worthless, saying it measures a defenseman's points rather than actual defensive ability. Bobrovsky has as many Vezinas as Lundqvist, does that make them comparable tenders in any given year? Does the fact that Bobrovsky has a Vezina to his name suddenly make him a better player? If he hadn't won, would that make him even worse than he was regarded prior to winning?

Lucic would serve the Rangers far better in any situation and as an overall player/presence.

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07-21-2013, 03:50 PM
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I voted Lucic. Id like both players and Letang may be better for the Rangers ie PP QB however Lucic is such a unique talent, I would have to take him.

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07-21-2013, 03:51 PM
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So are Crosby and Malkin coming with Letang?

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07-21-2013, 04:24 PM
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He's not. Being a good offensive dman doesn't mean he can run a PP. He's never run the PP in Pittsburgh.
He certainly does. He brings up the puck better then anyone in the league and moves the puck around the PP just as good as anyone on that unit including Crosby. Just cause he doesnt score a ton of PP goals doesnt mean he isnt a QB

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07-21-2013, 05:02 PM
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Lucic, not even a question.

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07-21-2013, 05:25 PM
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07-21-2013, 05:47 PM
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He certainly does. He brings up the puck better then anyone in the league and moves the puck around the PP just as good as anyone on that unit including Crosby. Just cause he doesnt score a ton of PP goals doesnt mean he isnt a QB
No, he's good for one thing on the PP, and that's entering the zone. He's actually not all that effective on the PP, his point totals with the man advantage aren't great.

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07-21-2013, 07:08 PM
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It's not that easy choice, Lucic is a special player, but I'd take Letang...

Lucic doesn't change how we play. We need to play better hockey. Sure, MLs intangibles would be tremendously valuable, but we would still not have a game.

People complain on our depth players, but that's because we don't have a game. Its no coincidence that guys like Nolan and King for LA and Bickell for Chicago gets a ton of attention, but these guys would definitely not even get a fraction of that had they played for like Buffalo.

A great team can ways find guys like Bickell, King and Nolan cheap. You won't find a right shooting PPQB cheap...

Also, yes Letang is a product of Pittsburgh. But that does not mean that his abilit is temporary, due to playing with the two greats he has developed his game. However, he is also overrated somewhat. But he is a very good D.

But how good is Lucic really? Under Torts, I am fairly certain that someone like Lucic could easily have lost 20+ pts. Boston got a transition game and gets up I've thanks to people other than Lucic. Lucic is only effective up ice.

So a lot of what some say of Letang also applies to Lucic.


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07-21-2013, 07:15 PM
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For this team now? Lucic

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07-21-2013, 07:27 PM
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Definitely Lucic. Guy has a skill set other team's have a tough time matching up against. Letang has some noticeable flaws on the defensive side of his game.

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07-22-2013, 09:26 AM
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He certainly does. He brings up the puck better then anyone in the league and moves the puck around the PP just as good as anyone on that unit including Crosby. Just cause he doesnt score a ton of PP goals doesnt mean he isnt a QB
No, he certainly does not. He's a skilled defender with a great shot and excellent skating ability. However, he simply does not have the vision and poise to be a QB on the powerplay. The Pens PP runs through Crosby and Malkin, and during portions of this year, Paul Martin. It has nothing to do with his production, it's just a fact that the flow of the PP does not run through Letang.

Gonchar was the last true PPQB that the Pens had at the point. Watching him and Letang is like night and day.

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07-22-2013, 12:20 PM
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If we still had Clowe, probably Letang...

Given that we don't, Lucic AINEC...

Actually, Lucic either way..

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Letang. The Rangers haven't had a PPQB since Leetch and their PP has struggled as a result.

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07-22-2013, 03:31 PM
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This is an oddly tough choice...

I think I have to go with Letang. Imagine him next to Staal/McDonagh?!

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07-22-2013, 06:40 PM
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It's not that easy choice, Lucic is a special player, but I'd take Letang...

Lucic doesn't change how we play. We need to play better hockey. Sure, MLs intangibles would be tremendously valuable, but we would still not have a game.

People complain on our depth players, but that's because we don't have a game. Its no coincidence that guys like Nolan and King for LA and Bickell for Chicago gets a ton of attention, but these guys would definitely not even get a fraction of that had they played for like Buffalo.

A great team can ways find guys like Bickell, King and Nolan cheap. You won't find a right shooting PPQB cheap...

Also, yes Letang is a product of Pittsburgh. But that does not mean that his abilit is temporary, due to playing with the two greats he has developed his game. However, he is also overrated somewhat. But he is a very good D.

But how good is Lucic really? Under Torts, I am fairly certain that someone like Lucic could easily have lost 20+ pts. Boston got a transition game and gets up I've thanks to people other than Lucic. Lucic is only effective up ice.

So a lot of what some say of Letang also applies to Lucic.
Without Crosby, Malkin, Neal, Kunitz etc.--Letang's production is not going to be the same. He would not have the same talent to work with--his ability to produce offense is more what we're looking at because he's not on the same level as Staal, McDonagh or Girardi defensively. He would fit in for sure but it's a pretty safe bet he won't be the same for us as he is for the Pens. Rangers don't have the complimentary players to enhance his production numbers that the Penguins do have.

Lucic OTOH probably would be somewhere around the same for us as he is for the Bruins. His game is pretty straightforward--use his size, strength and mean to crash the net and the corners--score goals and points here and there and lay a hurting on whoever gets in his way. Not a lot to figure out there.

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07-22-2013, 07:00 PM
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Wow is Letang ever overrated or what? Put Letang on the Ranger and he's not even the best defensemen on the team.

I don't care how many hockey writers (who also voted OV in as the best LW AND RW mind you) have to say about it.

PS-Putting up offensive numbers as a defensemen =/= PPQB. A PPQB dictates the play on the ice, and sorry but on the Pen's PP it tends not to Letang. Not saying he's not great offensively-he is. But let's all get some perspective.

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07-22-2013, 08:08 PM
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Does Letang even lift?
Haha good one.

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07-22-2013, 08:11 PM
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No, he certainly does not. He's a skilled defender with a great shot and excellent skating ability. However, he simply does not have the vision and poise to be a QB on the powerplay. The Pens PP runs through Crosby and Malkin, and during portions of this year, Paul Martin. It has nothing to do with his production, it's just a fact that the flow of the PP does not run through Letang.

Gonchar was the last true PPQB that the Pens had at the point. Watching him and Letang is like night and day.
Letang doesn't have good enough vision? I think most people would disagree with that..

I picked Letang just because I don't think M. Lucic is as effective on the NYR as he is with Boston.

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07-22-2013, 10:37 PM
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Lucic, and its not even really close.

Letang is not a traditional PPQB - in fact, I'd love to see the drop in his offensive #'s if he didn't have Crosby and Malkin to dump the puck off to.

For those mentioning the Norris trophy, its a damn shame whats happened to that award since the lockout. All-around defensemen are now ignored in favor of points. And again, see above as to why Letang has so many.

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Letang doesn't have good enough vision? I think most people would disagree with that..

I picked Letang just because I don't think M. Lucic is as effective on the NYR as he is with Boston.
Yet, you think Letang would be effective outside of Pittsburgh? Wow.

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I think Lucic would be more useful to this roster if the goal is getting out of the East.

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