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Maple Leafs sign G Christopher Gibson (ELC)

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07-21-2013, 06:56 PM
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I signed him in NHL 13, then was able to trade him and a 3rd to Anaheim for John Gibson. Get it done Nonis!
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07-21-2013, 07:18 PM
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wow...I though he was away on Military duties and that's why the Kings didn't sign him....Could b huge for the Leafs...Low risk High reward
There are military duties but I think those are only like 3-6 months worth so it isn't really an issue other than missing maybe a month or two at some point. That also wasn't the main reason the Kings didn't sign him. I think they had their eyes on Patrik Bartosak (similar aged prospect out of Red Deer, drafted this year) and Mathias Niederberger (signed recently with the Monarchs AHL team, and was at Kings Dev camp) as their goalie prospects moving forward instead of Gibson.

Gibson is a solid young goalie but he's very raw, not really good technique wise and prone to giving up bad goals. He's also very weak when it comes to the mental side of things. He'll give up a bad goal and start trying too hard to stop the next shot and then gives up more stoppable goals. He'll need a lot of time to develop but still could be a really good goalie and a NHL backup or spot starter someday. Lots of upside if some one puts in the work on developing him, but right now he's VERY raw.

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Could be a solid signing. He's not a bad goalie and far from a bust at his age. He's had the misfortune of playing on an awful Chicoutimi team. I've been at a few of their road games and their defence was abysmal.

Also as poster above said does lose focus after a goal so yes he is a raw prospect.

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Could be a good goaltender. Not really too much at risk.

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Hextall said the Kings were alright with his military duties, but they just didn't think he was a good fit anymore.

Anyone that has seen him play recently knows that he has looked quite terrible. He is a bit of a headcase, just can't focus. One of those young players with all the tools, but just can't put it all together. He just lets it a ridiculous amount of easy/clean goals and gets flustered and can't get himself back into the game.

It's not like it is a huge risk though, and he is young, but I'd be floored if he made the NHL at any point in his career.

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Typical Leafs, filling the most critical position on the ice with free wallets, castoffs, and late round picks with questionable ability. I know that it`s difficult to project how goalies will develop making it risky to spend high picks on them, but does that mean you always have to scrape the bargain bin? A guy like Fucale, with a memorial cup on his resume and oozing potential drops into the second round in a draft the Leafs need to take a goalie in, and they are just like "meh, we'll just draft one in the 6th and sign a free agent scrub." It's maddening. The last time the Leafs drafted a goalie with a high pick it was Rask, and it would have worked pretty well for them if they kept him in the system (instead of trading him to make room for their late round limited talent scrub Pogge). Why Toronto, WHY??!?! Leave the free wallet where it is, strut up to the counter and pay the price for something good instead of just taking random swipes at a bunch of crust that may end up being a goalie some day. Geeze.
Not that we had a chance to draft Fucale even if we had kept our 2nd but I completely agree. It's no surprise that our goaltending has been abysmal for the last decade. The one goaltender we did take a chance on just signed a 7m a year contact.

In our situation we should be drafting a goaltender with a 1st or 2nd every few years max. The most recent examples being the Habs drafting Fucale while having Price, the Bruins drafting Subban with Rask and the Kings in 2011 drafting Gibson @ 49 while at the time having both Quick and Bernier.

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Typical Leafs, filling the most critical position on the ice with free wallets, castoffs, and late round picks with questionable ability. I know that it`s difficult to project how goalies will develop making it risky to spend high picks on them, but does that mean you always have to scrape the bargain bin? A guy like Fucale, with a memorial cup on his resume and oozing potential drops into the second round in a draft the Leafs need to take a goalie in, and they are just like "meh, we'll just draft one in the 6th and sign a free agent scrub." It's maddening. The last time the Leafs drafted a goalie with a high pick it was Rask, and it would have worked pretty well for them if they kept him in the system (instead of trading him to make room for their late round limited talent scrub Pogge). Why Toronto, WHY??!?! Leave the free wallet where it is, strut up to the counter and pay the price for something good instead of just taking random swipes at a bunch of crust that may end up being a goalie some day. Geeze.
Drafting goalies high doesn't usually work out. Most starters are late rounders or undrafted.

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Typical Leafs, filling the most critical position on the ice with free wallets, castoffs, and late round picks with questionable ability. I know that it`s difficult to project how goalies will develop making it risky to spend high picks on them, but does that mean you always have to scrape the bargain bin? A guy like Fucale, with a memorial cup on his resume and oozing potential drops into the second round in a draft the Leafs need to take a goalie in, and they are just like "meh, we'll just draft one in the 6th and sign a free agent scrub." It's maddening. The last time the Leafs drafted a goalie with a high pick it was Rask, and it would have worked pretty well for them if they kept him in the system (instead of trading him to make room for their late round limited talent scrub Pogge). Why Toronto, WHY??!?! Leave the free wallet where it is, strut up to the counter and pay the price for something good instead of just taking random swipes at a bunch of crust that may end up being a goalie some day. Geeze.
Jonathan Bernier? 11th overall pick?

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Typical Leafs, filling the most critical position on the ice with free wallets, castoffs, and late round picks with questionable ability. I know that it`s difficult to project how goalies will develop making it risky to spend high picks on them, but does that mean you always have to scrape the bargain bin? A guy like Fucale, with a memorial cup on his resume and oozing potential drops into the second round in a draft the Leafs need to take a goalie in, and they are just like "meh, we'll just draft one in the 6th and sign a free agent scrub." It's maddening. The last time the Leafs drafted a goalie with a high pick it was Rask, and it would have worked pretty well for them if they kept him in the system (instead of trading him to make room for their late round limited talent scrub Pogge). Why Toronto, WHY??!?! Leave the free wallet where it is, strut up to the counter and pay the price for something good instead of just taking random swipes at a bunch of crust that may end up being a goalie some day. Geeze.
Lundqvist 7th round, Rinne 8th round, Hiller (undrafted), Niemi (undrafted), etc, etc. Antagonists keeping this thread going strong.

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Typical Leafs, filling the most critical position on the ice with free wallets, castoffs, and late round picks with questionable ability. I know that it`s difficult to project how goalies will develop making it risky to spend high picks on them, but does that mean you always have to scrape the bargain bin? A guy like Fucale, with a memorial cup on his resume and oozing potential drops into the second round in a draft the Leafs need to take a goalie in, and they are just like "meh, we'll just draft one in the 6th and sign a free agent scrub." It's maddening. The last time the Leafs drafted a goalie with a high pick it was Rask, and it would have worked pretty well for them if they kept him in the system (instead of trading him to make room for their late round limited talent scrub Pogge). Why Toronto, WHY??!?! Leave the free wallet where it is, strut up to the counter and pay the price for something good instead of just taking random swipes at a bunch of crust that may end up being a goalie some day. Geeze.
I totally agree. They had one good draft at the goaltender position and traded him away (Rask) and totally misjudged what they had (Pogge et el.). They did well with Reimer but their high picks for goalies have mostly been a bust.

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