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Are you/do you think you will be happy with the Briere signing?

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07-21-2013, 07:27 PM
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Put him on the DD line then. We do have a sheltered scoring line. Or with Galchenyuk and Prust.
It's interesting that you bring that up. I've been really wondering what the best use for a guy like Briere is now. Do you make a *really* sheltered line with him and DD on it and pray they don't ice it? Or do you try and mitigate his defensive lapses by putting him with a shutdown presence like Pleks? Will be fun to see what happens.

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07-21-2013, 07:31 PM
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Even if Briere turns out to be a dud it wouldn't be a fatal error. His contract is for only 2 years and it didn't cost the Habs so much as a 7th round draft pick.

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07-21-2013, 09:58 PM
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Best playoff performer next to Zetterberg in the past ..how many years now?

He's clutch.
He did 12 points in 6 games in the SC finals against Chicago back in 2010.

Also did 10 points in 7 games against Boston.

Best scorer of the 2010 NHL PO and was a strong contender for the Conn Smythe.

Ryder does score more goals but he is nowhere near Briere when the stakes are high.
I think he will be an inspiration to many players in this team.

Would love to see him play with Eller and Galchenyuk.
Would bring experience to that line, could help Eller with FO.

Still remember how he was able to make Plek loose his temper:

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07-21-2013, 10:04 PM
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It's interesting that you bring that up. I've been really wondering what the best use for a guy like Briere is now. Do you make a *really* sheltered line with him and DD on it and pray they don't ice it? Or do you try and mitigate his defensive lapses by putting him with a shutdown presence like Pleks? Will be fun to see what happens.
I have a feeling he will start with Pleks at the beginning of the season; for a number of reasons.

But I could see a line like Briere-DD-Pacioretty being pretty effective with managed ice-time and a lot of O-zone starts.

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07-21-2013, 11:50 PM
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I really don't like how Briere is being penciled in as a winger. I thought he was bad there. Seems like a risk of a signing as it is so why would we put him in a position to fail by sticking him on the wing?

I think DD needs to be converted to a winger. The sooner the better.

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07-22-2013, 12:28 AM
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I really don't like how Briere is being penciled in as a winger. I thought he was bad there. Seems like a risk of a signing as it is so why would we put him in a position to fail by sticking him on the wing?

I think DD needs to be converted to a winger. The sooner the better.
I'm not sure either option is what we'd call ideal, unfortunately.

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07-22-2013, 07:33 AM
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Maybe i'm a hater... I voted no for 2 reasons.

1- I didn't liked his attitude in the past while he signed to Philly for the same amount of money that MTL offered him. I have a feeling he signed here just for his past-career and to get some kind of forgiveness by the fans.

2- MB says he wants to improve in size and toughness and signs an injury prone small forward... I don't understand how it's fitting in the big picture.

BUT, I do like the gamble for 8M/2yrs. I'm not a «fefan» but I have a feeling inside me that he will make me regret this post in the future...

So, it's a no for the moment, with a small yes...

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07-22-2013, 09:57 AM
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It's interesting that you bring that up. I've been really wondering what the best use for a guy like Briere is now. Do you make a *really* sheltered line with him and DD on it and pray they don't ice it? Or do you try and mitigate his defensive lapses by putting him with a shutdown presence like Pleks? Will be fun to see what happens.
DD, Briere and Gionta.

Whoooo boy. Yup, gonna be real fun in the playoffs.

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08-03-2013, 12:58 PM
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Habs website has videos of Briere putting on the jersey and taking to the ice.

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08-03-2013, 01:07 PM
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DD, Briere and Gionta.

Whoooo boy. Yup, gonna be real fun in the playoffs.
Only a tad smaller than the Cammalleri - Gomez - Gionta line that I seem to recall made it to the third round.

Of course, we are talking about Briere who is like what, four inches tall? There's no way he could have any success in the playoffs at that height right?

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08-03-2013, 01:15 PM
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DD, Briere and Gionta.

Whoooo boy. Yup, gonna be real fun in the playoffs.
This will no doubt make me sound more like a logician than a hockey fan but here are five possibilities (with subsets of four of them) that you didn't consider:

1) Briere and/or Gionta might be traded or waived.
2) Briere and/or Gionta might be injured at playoff time.
3) One or both might be replaced by a prospect.
4) One or both might excel in the playoffs.
5) The Habs may not make the playoffs.

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08-03-2013, 01:21 PM
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I'm not sure either option is what we'd call ideal, unfortunately.
DD hasn't been on the wing enough to have that conclusion. It would not hurt testing DD in a different position. Not saying keep him there but versatile players are worth more internally and to other teams. Seeing if he can play wing will help his value if he looks decent.

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08-03-2013, 01:29 PM
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This will no doubt make me sound more like a logician than a hockey fan but here are five possibilities (with subsets of four of them) that you didn't consider:

1) Briere and/or Gionta might be traded or waived.
2) Briere and/or Gionta might be injured at playoff time.
3) One or both might be replaced by a prospect.
4) One or both might excel in the playoffs.
5) The Habs may not make the playoffs.
Pretty sure Briere and Gionta both have NMC. Also can't see the Captain being traded, or Briere after just signing him to a 2 year deal.

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08-03-2013, 01:33 PM
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Pretty sure Briere and Gionta both have NMC. Also can't see the Captain being traded, or Briere after just signing him to a 2 year deal.
Neither can I but it's possible to trade or sit players with NMC clauses, not to mention the possibility of injury.

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Habs website has videos of Briere putting on the jersey and taking to the ice.
http://video.canadiens.nhl.com/video...263469&lang=en

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i went on the Philly board asking what we can expect from him and there was really not much new. Average speed, poor defense.

They all acknowledged he was bad last year but most of them seemed to think he can still turn it around with the right line mates.

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Brière in a Habs jersey... Feels wrong.

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Only a tad smaller than the Cammalleri - Gomez - Gionta line that I seem to recall made it to the third round.
Halak dragged us to the third round. There's no way we should've even gotten past the Caps.
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Of course, we are talking about Briere who is like what, four inches tall? There's no way he could have any success in the playoffs at that height right?
Pass the Kool-Aid please.

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08-03-2013, 02:53 PM
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This will no doubt make me sound more like a logician than a hockey fan but here are five possibilities (with subsets of four of them) that you didn't consider:

1) Briere and/or Gionta might be traded or waived.
2) Briere and/or Gionta might be injured at playoff time.
3) One or both might be replaced by a prospect.
4) One or both might excel in the playoffs.
5) The Habs may not make the playoffs.
1. I considered this. It doesn't matter. That could've been done anyway. Still stupid to sign Briere.
2. So could Max and Bourque. Then we have ALL smurfs up front.
3. With all due respect though, so what? What does this have to do with anything? How does Briere make any difference there?
4. Great. But the team as a whole is still too small to go anywhere.
5. Well, that's true too. I don't think that would've been as much of a possibility if we'd gotten a larger forward up front though.

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So is Briere more likely to play RW or C?

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This will no doubt make me sound more like a logician than a hockey fan but here are five possibilities (with subsets of four of them) that you didn't consider:

1) Briere and/or Gionta might be traded or waived.
2) Briere and/or Gionta might be injured at playoff time.
3) One or both might be replaced by a prospect.
4) One or both might excel in the playoffs.
5) The Habs may not make the playoffs.
1- both have NMC/NTC
2- considering the roles they are penciled in to play, significant injury time to either will hurt our chances of even getting in
3- Given MT's approach last season, and our lack of strong top-6 prospects, that's quite unlikely
4- that's what we all want, hope is a good thing i guess, just sucks when its the only thing
5- that's what i'm mostly concerned about... would like to see the GM either committed to making the team better, or committed to long term. in either case, briere signing doesn't really fit.

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Pass the Kool-Aid please.
I know right, what has Brière even done in the playoffs? Way too small!

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08-03-2013, 10:24 PM
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I know right, what has Brière even done in the playoffs? Way too small!
DD, Gionta, Gallagher, Plecs... not quite the same as the lineup Philly had. But I guess building with Smurfs is the way to go.

Yeah, bring on the cup.

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We keep adding these players: effective offensive perimeter players who need good linemates to be productive, who lack size, who cost millions, and who can't contribute defensively. Briere follows in the footsteps of Ryder, Cammalleri, and Tanguay. The sad part is he might actually be the least desirable of the four.

The situation is quite frankly terrifying. As bad the Habs lineup looks with everybody healthy, it has the potential to look even worse with some injuries. Imagine the cataclysm if Pacioretty, Eller, and Bourque are out:

Prust-Desharnais-Gallagher
Gionta-Plekanec-Briere
Moen-Galchenyuk-Leblanc
White-Dumont-Parros

A good lineup should not only look good when the team is healthy, but also be robust to a few injuries. The lineup Bergevin built is robust only in its smurf-excess. However, you don't want to have 3 or even 2 smurfs on a single line, but we are at a huge risk of running multiple smurf lines.

A good team has 4th liners that can play on the 3rd line, 3rd liners that can play on the 2nd line, and 2nd liners that can play on the first line in case of injury. Due to injuries being commonplace, it is better to have a robust roster than a roster full of specialists, as Bergevin has built. We're away from that ideal, as we:

- Have three small offense-only forwards: Gallagher, Briere, and Desharnais. Pacioretty and Bourque also have limited defensive ability;
- Galchenyuk needs to be sheltered;
- White, Dumont, Parros, Leblanc, and Blunden will all need to be sheltered in their NHL playing time this year;
- Gionta, one of our better defensive players, had had two major bicep injuries;
- The defense, outside of Subban, lacks the versatility needed to adequately compensate for the limitations of our forwards. Bouillon, Drewiske are both mediocre to below average. Gorges is a question mark after his bad season last year. Tinordi is still raw. Subban and Markov are a good number 1 and number 3, but that's not a full defense-corps. If Subban misses 20 or 30 games due to injury, we might as well start thinking about Eckblad;

It's a dangerous situation.

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08-03-2013, 11:28 PM
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I know right, what has Brière even done in the playoffs? Way too small!
The question should be what has Briere done lately in the playoffs? He’s not too small, he’s just too old. I may be wrong but I think that had Montreal waited a few days, they could have had him for way less money.

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