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07-25-2013, 05:57 PM
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07-25-2013, 05:58 PM
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Darcy's gonna have a hard time with that contract and his recent play
Think whatever you want about the kid, it wasn't a Sabres fan who made this proposal.

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07-25-2013, 06:03 PM
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Why would Toronto take this kind of gamble? They have a legitimate top six winger signed to a nice long term contract. He's got size and is fantastic in front of the net, exactly what Toronto needs.

Myers is a fine defenseman, and would definitely fill a huge need for Toronto, if he returns to being a top pairing guy that is. The problem is, there's no guarantee he'll be this type of defenseman for the Leafs. Not bad value, just no motivation from a Leafs standpoint.

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07-25-2013, 06:08 PM
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I have a feeling Myers will do great again, I don't see why all of you are complaining that he sucks lol, but yes this is a bad deal for the leafs.

Percy/Finn + 1st? You guys are in a rebuild so prospects and picks ftw?
Why would we trade a potentially elite 23yo, who's already played at a high level in the NHL, for prospects with lesser upside? Rebuild is not a synonym for "trade every player".

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07-25-2013, 06:14 PM
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I get what you are saying and Myers is/could be a fine defenseman but he'll never be 'elite'.

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07-25-2013, 06:15 PM
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07-25-2013, 06:17 PM
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Darcy's gonna have a hard time with that contract and his recent play
He would be if he were shopping Myers, maybe. The thing people like you keep failing to notice, no matter how many times Buf fans say it, is: WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN MOVING MYERS -- it's other teams' fans that keep making (mostly obnoxious low-ball) proposals for him. Everyone wants the potential reward, but no one is actually willing to risk anything. There is no reason to sell low on a guy who could still be a franchise cornerstone for us.

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07-25-2013, 06:17 PM
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07-25-2013, 06:19 PM
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Sabres Fans, not looking to make an offer for Myers, but just looking for some insight as to what the Sabres needs are, and what they may be looking to do?

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07-25-2013, 06:21 PM
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I get what you are saying and Myers is/could be a fine defenseman but he'll never be 'elite'.
No? What'd you think of Chara when he was 23? Myers is very young still, has some things you simply can't teach (size and skating), and has shown stretches of dominance. Unless you and I just have different definitions of elite, I'm not sure how you can honestly say he doesn't have the potential to reach that level.



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Sabres Fans, not looking to make an offer for Myers, but just looking for some insight as to what the Sabres needs are, and what they may be looking to do?

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Our prospect pool is pretty deep at most positions. Only area where we're notably thin is on wing. Given our general depth, the thing I'm keying in on if I'm Regier is adding elite talent at any position. Given how rarely young players of that talent level are moved, I'm thinking we'll have to just suck hard for that to happen.
In terms of NHL/older players, a center who can handle defensive match-ups would be nice.


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07-25-2013, 06:23 PM
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NHL Ready Prospects on the wing since we will be loosing Vanek and in a few years Leino (if his play continues to be bad), Stafford and maybe Ennis.

NHL Ready prospects who have the potential of a top 6 forward.

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07-25-2013, 06:36 PM
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What is up with these proposals lately

Myers has been absolutely DOMINANT at times in his career (particularly in the playoffs), showed up out of shape after the lockout and had a rough year. The kid is 23. To act like he's somehow busted out of his potential is absurd.

He moves for one thing, a potential superstar winger. There is just no reason at all to think he's "permanently bad" now. The kid is still growing into his frame. It takes time.

While he's a dissimilar player to Chara, the comparison is apt as both have huge frames that weren't nearly filled out when they were 23. Ottawa let Chara walk and has been paying for it ever since. No way Buffalo just gives up on the kid. Not when he's already shown he can be a franchise-changing player.

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07-25-2013, 06:45 PM
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What is up with these proposals lately

Myers has been absolutely DOMINANT at times in his career (particularly in the playoffs), showed up out of shape after the lockout and had a rough year. The kid is 23. To act like he's somehow busted out of his potential is absurd.

He moves for one thing, a potential superstar winger. There is just no reason at all to think he's "permanently bad" now. The kid is still growing into his frame. It takes time.

While he's a dissimilar player to Chara, the comparison is apt as both have huge frames that weren't nearly filled out when they were 23. Ottawa let Chara walk and has been paying for it ever since. No way Buffalo just gives up on the kid. Not when he's already shown he can be a franchise-changing player.
THIS. People forget that he outright dominated for 2 years, had a good but not great 3rd year and played quite bad in a LOCKOUT SHORTENED SEASON.As other people have said Myers is a potential superstar. Chara ws really "meh" in his first 4-5 seasons before the Yashin deal, look what he turned into after the trade, Buffalo have absolutely nothing to lose with Myers, if he reaches his potential,Great, you have yourself a 6"8 version of Scott Niedermayer (obviously not as good) if not, then you still have Ristolainen,Zadorov,Pysyk,McCabe,McNabb,Ruhwedel and JGL as yound defensman/prospects.

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07-25-2013, 06:48 PM
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Our prospect pool is pretty deep at most positions. Only area where we're notably thin is on wing. Given our general depth, the thing I'm keying in on if I'm Regier is adding elite talent at any position. Given how rarely young players of that talent level are moved, I'm thinking we'll have to just suck hard for that to happen.
In terms of NHL/older players, a center who can handle defensive match-ups would be nice.[/QUOTE]

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NHL Ready Prospects on the wing since we will be loosing Vanek and in a few years Leino (if his play continues to be bad), Stafford and maybe Ennis.

NHL Ready prospects who have the potential of a top 6 forward.
thanks guys, much appreciated.

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07-25-2013, 06:54 PM
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07-25-2013, 06:56 PM
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Why would we trade a potentially elite 23yo, who's already played at a high level in the NHL, for prospects with lesser upside? Rebuild is not a synonym for "trade every player".
Maybe because that 23 year old has a horrid contract for the way he's been playing and the potential of Matt Finn or Stuart Percy + that FIRST ROUND pick could prove to be a huge upside.

It's not a bad deal, no need to bash.

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What is up with these proposals lately

Myers has been absolutely DOMINANT at times in his career (particularly in the playoffs), showed up out of shape after the lockout and had a rough year. The kid is 23. To act like he's somehow busted out of his potential is absurd.

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He wasn't out of shape....he went over to Europe and got hurt. I think it was something like a high ankle sprain.

Post lockout he wasn't anywhere near 100% then the sabres really busy schedule early in the season so he didn't play well because of the injury. When he finally seemed to recover after sitting a couple of games he got another injury which ended The season.

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07-25-2013, 07:22 PM
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He wasn't out of shape....he went over to Europe and got hurt. I think it was something like a high ankle sprain.

Post lockout he wasn't anywhere near 100% then the sabres really busy schedule early in the season so he didn't play well because of the injury. When he finally seemed to recover after sitting a couple of games he got another injury which ended The season.
He was out of shape..... mainly because of his high ankle sprain which prevented him from training

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07-25-2013, 07:30 PM
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Both sides seem to hate it. OP might be on to something.

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first of all, that yellow font needs to go. Second of all, we arent trading away our newly acquired, big, physical, young, talented winger who was on pace for 30+ goals for an underachieving defense man. We'd be better off trying to acquire EJ from colorado.
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07-25-2013, 07:33 PM
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The Value is there on both sides, both guys are young, signed and still have a ton of upside to reach, classic change of scenery/preference deal, don't see the Leafs doing it, not because of Myers but Just because it creates a hole upfront, and than forces the Leafs to make another deal, trading defencemen.
Buffalo has to add.

Myers + Hodgson + 2nd might get you JVR

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07-25-2013, 07:35 PM
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Buffalo has to add.

Myers + Hodgson + 2nd might get you JVR
IMO the only way anythnig like this trade happens is Liles going along with JVR. Leafs don't have the cap space otherwise.

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Yeah, this is pretty terrible for the Sabres because Myers' potential is too high, and it's bad for the Leafs because they are in a position where they don't need to take a gamble (and they wouldn't be buying Myers low, they'd be buying for his potential). Both sides say no

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Id risk Lupul for Myers. Not JvR. We could really use a top pairing RHD with size, but Myers has been incredibly inconsistent.

Though I think most Leaf fans wouldnt even do that.

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