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Jets re-sign Blake Wheeler (6 years/33.6 M - 5.6 M cap hit)

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07-26-2013, 10:36 PM
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Good deal for the Jets, looks to me like Wheeler has found his "jazz" on the Jets team.

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I like Little's deal a bit better but this is more than fair. Good for Winnipeg.

Edit: Just realized what he's making compared to Clarkson. I can't believe how Nonis got a 5 year contract after signing that deal haha.
If you compare what a RFA and a UFA make, you're gonna have a bad time.

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I wasn't joking, no.

Collectively, fans have lost 1.5 years of hockey since 2004, and you don't have a problem with guys like Blake Wheeler getting paid 5.6 million per season?
Clarkson's contract set the bar. Even so Wheeler is much more worth his contract than Clarkson is.

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07-26-2013, 10:37 PM
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Seems a bit pricey, no?

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And with that, the second buyout season officially closes before it opens, as no team will have 2 players in arbitration hearings.

The Jets were the last candidates.
Teams only need one player-elected arbitration to open the 2nd buyout window.

The CBA language can be easily misinterpreted if you don't follow the cited article references. What it says is that the 2nd buyout window doesn't open for a team that only has one team-elected arbitration case. One player-elected arbitration opens the 2nd buyout window.

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Good deal for both parties and I think 2 years from now people will be saying "oh man that Wheeler is a steal at 5.6"

To the guy arguing that players like Wheeler shouldn't be making 5.6, well he's a first line winger on a kid range rich team, they can afford to overpay a bit here to attract more interest from others outside and in by locking up core members for good term and fair money.
If Wheeler was signed thru this season and headed to free agency, he be looking for around the term and money Clarkson/Horton got. On the top end of things, a team desperate for offence might be willing to give him 6 million per. He has scored at pace well within the realm of these type of comparables if you considered it as him going to ufa already.
I understand the worries about the lost time in hockey, but it's simple economics man, the demand for the product is high while the supply is low, and it seems no matter he amount of missed time, the fans keep coming back to spend more and more. Nothing you can do about it because you can't control the spending patterns of others. Just accept that we get to witness the best product of hockey entertainment on the earth.

If you feel so strongly about the situation. I challenge you to go thru the net whole season with not purchasing one NHL related product. If you can do so, than I'm willing to accept your opinion at higher value than the others who continue to fight this argument to death yet can't back up their words.

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Seems a bit pricey, no?

Bought some UFA years, fair deal.

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Nice deal, Wheeler is locked up for his whole prime... and heyy alfie got 5.5, Wheeler, has 1st line upside.

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Seems like some people don't realize how good Wheeler is.

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Good deal for the Jets, looks to me like Wheeler has found his "jazz" on the Jets team.



If you compare what a RFA and a UFA make, you're gonna have a bad time.
You don't seem to realize that they bought 5 years of UFA and one of RFA...

Unless it was a nice (but futile) try.

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Glad to see Wheeler got better at something that wasn't off-sides. Hope he's good for you guys.

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You don't seem to realize that they bought 5 years of UFA and one of RFA...

Unless it was a nice (but futile) try.
That's why its a good deal, RFA's still don't have the leverage UFA's do.

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Seems like some people don't realize how good Wheeler is.
This. Spot on value if you ask me.

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I think this is a pretty fair deal. Good for the jets locking down a solid player like Wheeler. Perhaps its my size conscious habfandom talking but that guy is huge and can play, you definitely wanna lock those types into your team.

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Teams only need one player-elected arbitration to open the 2nd buyout window.

The CBA language can be easily misinterpreted if you don't follow the cited article references. What it says is that the 2nd buyout window doesn't open for a team that only has one team-elected arbitration case. One player-elected arbitration opens the 2nd buyout window.
You're right.

I'm ashamed and debased...

EDIT: I'll have to search for a few posts where I gave the wrong info...

I was too lazy to look at Section 12.3(a)...


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Good deal for the Jets, looks to me like Wheeler has found his "jazz" on the Jets team.



If you compare what a RFA and a UFA make, you're gonna have a bad time.
Wheeler is 27 in August. So he's effectively getting UFA money for UFA years.

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07-26-2013, 11:00 PM
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That's why its a good deal, RFA's still don't have the leverage UFA's do.
All RFAs are not the same.

He could have signed a one year contract and go for a pot of gold. Risky if injured.

He gave up 5 years of UFA.

So yes, it makes the Clarkson deal look ridiculous.

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Glad to see Wheeler got better at something that wasn't off-sides. Hope he's good for you guys.
Are fans this insuler? Are you telling me you haven't paid any attention to Wheeler's production over the past few years?

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Not a great deal but not really something to complain about, good for the jets

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wow. crazy overpaid.

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wow. crazy overpaid.
Yeah, you don't give that type of money to a guy like Wheeler. Better suited for Clowe or Clarkson.

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Fair deal.

The speed he has at that size is something to behold.

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Yeah, you don't give that type of money to a guy like Wheeler. Better suited for Clowe or Clarkson.
Great comeback.


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Good deal for both parties and I think 2 years from now people will be saying "oh man that Wheeler is a steal at 5.6"

To the guy arguing that players like Wheeler shouldn't be making 5.6, well he's a first line winger on a kid range rich team, they can afford to overpay a bit here to attract more interest from others outside and in by locking up core members for good term and fair money.
If Wheeler was signed thru this season and headed to free agency, he be looking for around the term and money Clarkson/Horton got. On the top end of things, a team desperate for offence might be willing to give him 6 million per. He has scored at pace well within the realm of these type of comparables if you considered it as him going to ufa already.
I understand the worries about the lost time in hockey, but it's simple economics man, the demand for the product is high while the supply is low, and it seems no matter he amount of missed time, the fans keep coming back to spend more and more. Nothing you can do about it because you can't control the spending patterns of others. Just accept that we get to witness the best product of hockey entertainment on the earth.

If you feel so strongly about the situation. I challenge you to go thru the net whole season with not purchasing one NHL related product. If you can do so, than I'm willing to accept your opinion at higher value than the others who continue to fight this argument to death yet can't back up their words.
While I appreciate your response, I'm a 33 year old guy who isn't known to collect much. Outside of a Leafs jersey, I don't own any NHL products and haven't been to a live game since 1991 because I can't justify the cost of the tickets. I love hockey, watching it, playing it, discussing it.... doesn't matter, but I won't spend hundreds of dollars on unnecessary products, because I don't like living in a house full of junk and clutter. In short, your challenge won't be an issue for me .

As a Leafs fan, I can tell you that I'm not a fan of the Clarkson contract either, though I do like the player.

Love the comment about Wheeler being a top 15 scoring RW in the league during a shortened 2012/2013 campaign! "I led the Majors in 9th inning doubles during the Month of August!".

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Why do people compare UFA and RFA deals? They aren't even close to the same.

Anyways, overpaid in money, but made up for it in term. Decent deal.

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Yeah, you don't give that type of money to a guy like Wheeler. Better suited for Clowe or Clarkson.
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