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07-24-2013, 10:38 AM
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I'm not disputing the rule exists at this point (hard to believe thought it may be), only that it's a necessary rule. I think its downside (hampering teams close to the cap all summer) is bigger than its upside (protecting a handful of players who might miss half a season as a result of getting the boot late in the summer).
you have replied twice before I edited in the source

I think the rule is good for teams too. Makes sure they know who is available before signing people.

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07-24-2013, 10:39 AM
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you have replied twice before I edited in the source

I think the rule is good for teams too. Makes sure they know who is available before signing people.
That's because I know you're speedy. I have to act quick when debating you or I'll get a post behind. Haha.

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07-24-2013, 10:41 AM
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That's because I know you're speedy. I have to act quick when debating you or I'll get a post behind. Haha.
I bet you are against contracts being guaranteed, aren't you?

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07-24-2013, 10:47 AM
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I bet you are against contracts being guaranteed, aren't you?
Well seeing as how buyouts are a form of a contract being guaranteed (i.e. full payment received without full rendering of services), no. I'm not against it.

I just think the hang-ups you're talking about are relatively minor things during the course of an NHL season (for a GM) and career (for a player). If I were a GM I'd try my best NOT to buyout a guy later in the summer, and I think most GMs would do it the right way in that respect, but if I had to do it to keep my team competitive I would, and I think most players would understand.

Just as they understand getting waived is part of the game, getting traded when they don't want to be traded, etc. To me, most buyouts, even at the end of the summer, would be a win-win-win for the parties involved. The cases where a guy gets washed out or a team gets stuck with a lesser player for the same money (because they didn't know another player would end up being available) are going to be the exception and frankly not that big a deal in the world of professional sports... where guys wash out all the time and teams get stuck with mediocre contracts all the time.

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07-24-2013, 10:48 AM
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I think GMs should manage their team properly so it doesn't come to that.

PS: I have no idea if there are rules on when regular buyouts can be used.

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Yes we should figure out all the different types of buyouts that are possible, and when they can be used. We need an informed hockey public.

Most importantly of all, allowing mid-summer buyouts allow me / us to make more awesome CapGeek rosters for our collective amusement.

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Yes we should figure out all the different types of buyouts that are possible, and when they can be used. We need an informed hockey public.

Most importantly of all, allowing mid-summer buyouts allow me / us to make more awesome CapGeek rosters for our collective amusement.
psh, the old trade for a draft pick is better than a regular buyout for making up fantasy rosters.

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Niskanen and 2014, 2015, 2016 2nd rounder for Landeskog!

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Niskanen and 2014, 2015, 2016 2nd rounder for Landeskog!
Don't you think your boy Niskanen has a bit more value than that? Or did they ask for 2 of those 2nds, and we had to add the third to get them to take Niskanen with it.

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Truthfully they should just take Niskanen and turn down the picks if they had any morals.

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07-26-2013, 04:47 AM
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Bennett-Malkin-Neal
Jokinen-Sutter-Zlobin
Glass-Adams-D'Agostini
Vitale

Orpik-Letang
Despres-Martin
Scuderi-Niskanen
Engelland-Bortuzzo

Fleury
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07-26-2013, 07:51 AM
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Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
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Jokinen-Sutter-Zlobin
Glass-Adams-D'Agostini
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Orpik-Letang
Despres-Martin
Scuderi-Niskanen
Engelland-Bortuzzo

Fleury
Vokoun
I'm sure it was a mistake, but did you know you put Zlobin in that line-up?

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I know this will never happen in eleventy billion years, but I keep thinking about how soff the 3rd line is going to be. Really want to see a guy who can skate, willing to hit, and be a bit of a pest.

Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis
Bennett - Malkin - Neal
Jokinen - Sutter - Vitale
Glass - Adams - D'Agostini/Jeffrey

Letang - Scuderi
Martin - Oprik
Despres - Bortuzzo
Engo


The top 6 is set, in some fashion, of 87, 71, 14, 9, 18 and 19.

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07-27-2013, 11:24 AM
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Niskanen and 2014, 2015, 2016 2nd rounder for Landeskog!
I traded Niskanen for Landeskog straight up in NHL 2012. It rocked.

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07-27-2013, 11:59 AM
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I'm sure it was a mistake, but did you know you put Zlobin in that line-up?
Do you have a problem with the, Anton?

This guys destine for greatness. That Jokinen, Sutter, Zlobin line could be our Jokinen, Sutter, Skinner line.

Don't mess with the, Anton.

I'm only half kidding.

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07-27-2013, 01:43 PM
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I traded Niskanen for Landeskog straight up in NHL 2012. It rocked.
If only it were possible in the real world... if only. Makes you wonder about the sobriety of the people programming these games though.

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07-27-2013, 09:01 PM
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Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Bennett-Malkin-Neal
Jokinen-Sutter-D'Agostini
Vitale-Adams-Glass
Jeffrey

Scuderi-Letang
Orpik-Martin
Niskanen-Bortuzzo
Engellend, Dumoulin

Fleury
Vokoun

No idea if that is cap compliant or not, so if it isn't then make minor changes as needed.

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07-27-2013, 09:04 PM
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Vitale-Adams-Glass
Jeffrey

Scuderi-Letang
Orpik-Martin
Niskanen-Bortuzzo
Engellend, Dumoulin

Fleury
Vokoun

No idea if that is cap compliant or not, so if it isn't then make minor changes as needed.
just need to move Niskanen for a pick

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07-27-2013, 09:36 PM
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Vitale-Adams-Glass
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Orpik-Martin
Niskanen-Bortuzzo
Engellend, Dumoulin

Fleury
Vokoun

No idea if that is cap compliant or not, so if it isn't then make minor changes as needed.
Did Despres disappear?

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07-27-2013, 09:55 PM
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Did Despres disappear?
missed that somehow. so ya, replace Niskanen with Despres. And then send down Dumoulin

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Since I don't follow the baby pens too much, is there anyone in the system whose a potential fourth liner? I've heard Sill thrown around a few times.

I know it will never happen, just curious.

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07-28-2013, 12:35 AM
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Since I don't follow the baby pens too much, is there anyone in the system whose a potential fourth liner? I've heard Sill thrown around a few times.
Adam Payerl. Management seemed pretty high on him at the prospect camp.

Here's a pretty good article on him: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=678543

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Since I don't follow the baby pens too much, is there anyone in the system whose a potential fourth liner? I've heard Sill thrown around a few times.

I know it will never happen, just curious.
I'd love to see an Engelland experiment on the 4th line. Couldn't be worse than Glass. He'd be better defensively and Glass basically brought zero offence last season.

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Just because he's a d-man doesn't mean he'll be good defensively as a winger. It doesn't work like that.

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It is too early for Adam Payerl to be mentioned as a candidate for the fourth line. Give him time to develop in WBS.

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