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07-27-2013, 09:44 PM
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OEL and Duchene are great players that carry equal value.

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07-27-2013, 09:55 PM
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OEL and Duchene are great players that carry equal value.
List a number of d-men in the same age group as OEL give or take 2 years difference in age with equal value, and I'll give you a greater list in comparison to Duchene.

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What the hell has OEL done to show he's worth Duchene+?

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lol at OEL > Duchene + MacKinnon. People on this site are unbelievable.

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Duchene + MacKinnon is completely unbelievable.

Duchene or Mack plus... though truth is none of these players will be changing teams anytime soon.

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07-27-2013, 10:50 PM
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And XX, you wouldn't move OEL for MacKinnon+Duchene?
That's a really good package, I would almost be forced to make that move, even though it would be extremely tough to let OEL go.

There is a limited number of packages that I would move OEL for; keeping in mind that we could not be taking back too much more salary than OEL makes alone (which eliminate teams like Det, Tor, Mont, Van, etc) from forming any package at all that comes close to value), period (anything in addition to each of these packages, obviously would be accepted):
  • Pitts: Crosby
  • TBL: Stamkos
  • NYI: Tavares
  • Nash: Weber
  • LA: Doughty
  • STL: Pietrangelo
  • Edmon: 2 of {Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yaq}
  • Winn: Kane + Bogosian
  • Col: Mac + 1st or Duchene + 1st (Mac + Duke obviously would be better than either)
  • Ottawa: Ryan + Zib + Cowen
  • Chicago: Kane + Leddy
  • Ana: (Perry or Getzlaf) + Fowler

I think that's about it. Any other team with any other package pretty much need not apply.

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07-27-2013, 10:56 PM
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That's a really good package, I would almost be forced to make that move, even though it would be extremely tough to let OEL go.

There is a limited number of packages that I would move OEL for; keeping in mind that we could not be taking back too much more salary than OEL makes alone (which eliminate teams like Det, Tor, Mont, Van, etc) from forming any package at all that comes close to value), period (anything in addition to each of these packages, obviously would be accepted):
  • Pitts: Crosby
  • TBL: Stamkos
  • NYI: Tavares
  • Nash: Weber
  • LA: Doughty
  • STL: Pietrangelo
  • Edmon: 2 of {Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yaq}
  • Winn: Kane + Bogosian
  • Col: Mac + 1st or Duchene + 1st (Mac + Duke obviously would be better than either)
  • Ottawa: Ryan + Zib + Cowen
  • Chicago: Kane + Leddy
  • Ana: (Perry or Getzlaf) + Fowler

I think that's about it. Any other team with any other package pretty much need not apply.
Whoa, OEL=Bobby Orr. I get he's a hell of a future but holy ****, just whoa. Now the NHL knows do not offer for OEL

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07-27-2013, 11:06 PM
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These threads that start off proposing trades for guys that have zero chance of being traded always go the same way. The proposals just get more and more ridiculous because none of them will ever even be talked about. I just don't get the fascination with these threads unless you are just trying to get ideas for your fantasy league.

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07-27-2013, 11:16 PM
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OEL quickly becoming one of HF's most overrated players....



To bad because I really like OEL as a Dman and think he's already a level above Pietrangelo.


The idea of Mack or even Duchene for OEL is laughable. Duchene especially(Mack for OEL isn't terrible value, but PHX still wins the trade by far).

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07-27-2013, 11:19 PM
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That's a really good package, I would almost be forced to make that move, even though it would be extremely tough to let OEL go.

There is a limited number of packages that I would move OEL for; keeping in mind that we could not be taking back too much more salary than OEL makes alone (which eliminate teams like Det, Tor, Mont, Van, etc) from forming any package at all that comes close to value), period (anything in addition to each of these packages, obviously would be accepted):
  • Pitts: Crosby
  • TBL: Stamkos
  • NYI: Tavares
  • Nash: Weber
  • LA: Doughty
  • STL: Pietrangelo
  • Edmon: 2 of {Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yaq}
  • Winn: Kane + Bogosian
  • Col: Mac + 1st or Duchene + 1st (Mac + Duke obviously would be better than either)
  • Ottawa: Ryan + Zib + Cowen
  • Chicago: Kane + Leddy
  • Ana: (Perry or Getzlaf) + Fowler

I think that's about it. Any other team with any other package pretty much need not apply.
You should edit your post and delete it before more people see it

And also...Apparently OEL > Malkin

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07-27-2013, 11:24 PM
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OEL and Duchene are great players that carry equal value.
Duchene is a heck of a player but it's a lot easier finding a Duchene compared to a OEL.

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07-27-2013, 11:31 PM
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That's a really good package, I would almost be forced to make that move, even though it would be extremely tough to let OEL go.

There is a limited number of packages that I would move OEL for; keeping in mind that we could not be taking back too much more salary than OEL makes alone (which eliminate teams like Det, Tor, Mont, Van, etc) from forming any package at all that comes close to value), period (anything in addition to each of these packages, obviously would be accepted):
  • Pitts: Crosby
  • TBL: Stamkos
  • NYI: Tavares
  • Nash: Weber
  • LA: Doughty
  • STL: Pietrangelo
  • Edmon: 2 of {Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yaq}
  • Winn: Kane + Bogosian
  • Col: Mac + 1st or Duchene + 1st (Mac + Duke obviously would be better than either)
  • Ottawa: Ryan + Zib + Cowen
  • Chicago: Kane + Leddy
  • Ana: (Perry or Getzlaf) + Fowler

I think that's about it. Any other team with any other package pretty much need not apply.
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07-27-2013, 11:33 PM
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OEL quickly becoming one of HF's most overrated players....



To bad because I really like OEL as a Dman and think he's already a level above Pietrangelo.


The idea of Mack or even Duchene for OEL is laughable. Duchene especially(Mack for OEL isn't terrible value, but PHX still wins the trade by far).
Mak is a prospect that has proven absolutely nothing. I doubt that he would be any better than RNH or Backstrom in the future (which is not shabby at all), in terms of realistic ceiling. He's not at the level of the value of a top 5 D in the league, period.

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07-27-2013, 11:35 PM
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You should edit your post and delete it before more people see it

And also...Apparently OEL > Malkin
Personally, I prefer OEL over Malkin. Malkin is a bit better if you ignore the cost controlled years, and age difference. After taking into account everything else, I would take OEL over him. Although that's a personal preference, some other coyotes fan might feel differently.

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[*]Edmon: 2 of {Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yaq}
[*]Winn: Kane + Bogosian
[*]Col: Mac + 1st or Duchene + 1st (Mac + Duke obviously would be better than either) [*]
You're valuations are as inconsistent as they are ridiculous.

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Personally, I prefer OEL over Malkin. Malkin is a bit better if you ignore the cost controlled years, and age difference. After taking into account everything else, I would take OEL over him. Although that's a personal preference, some other coyotes fan might feel differently.
Quite the statement. Can PHX fans enlighten us outsiders why OEL is worth that much. Because I honestly don't see what you guys are seeing, in terms of value.

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07-27-2013, 11:50 PM
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O'Reilly+1st/2nd for Yandle?

How's Boedker treatin you these days?

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And I thought Leafs fans do horrible proposals, ouch.

Its too bad there aren't that many Coyotes fans or they would be dead of laughter.

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Yikes. This has taken a drastic turn for the unnecessarily ridiculous.

OEL is not realistically available for any reasonable price. Any further discussion is frankly unrealistic and unreasonable.

No need to delve into the muck of equally unreasonable and unrealistic counter proposals.

It's pointless. Typing "OEL" into the trade forum should trigger an automated thread lock.

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07-28-2013, 12:13 AM
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Quite the statement. Can PHX fans enlighten us outsiders why OEL is worth that much. Because I honestly don't see what you guys are seeing, in terms of value.
Watch him play. He does everything right. He plays an unheard of amount of minutes against everyone's top players. Oh, and he just turned 22.

If he didn't play in Phoenix, he wouldn't be "overrated" on this board.

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07-28-2013, 12:26 AM
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OEL + 2nd for Duchene + prospect

if that isn't fair idk what is

or even OEL for Duchene straight up

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07-28-2013, 12:29 AM
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To Phx: Stastny+ROR

To Col: OEL

Just wonder if this is fair for both teams value wise.
Pretty big overpayment on Colorado's behalf, but considering how OEL doesn't come cheap, you'd have to wonder if Colorado considers it...

I mean, you free up space on middle ice for MacKinnon and Duchene to be your top 2 guys, but it's risky because we don't know how MacKinnon will pan out. Colorado may likely want to send 1 top-6 centerman then (I'd imagine PHX may see more value in ROR than Stastny).

Maybe make the deal based on ROR + package? What about Yandle?

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Watch him play. He does everything right. He plays an unheard of amount of minutes against everyone's top players. Oh, and he just turned 22.

If he didn't play in Phoenix, he wouldn't be "overrated" on this board.
I'm sorry...but when Phoenix players say OEL > Malkin, then yes, he is overrated

What do you think it would take Pitts to get OEL? I'm curious...as of now it stands at

Malkin + for OEL


IMO, as good as OEL is, PHX doesn't even have what it takes to get Malkin on their team...he's arguable the 2nd best player in the world and a center to top it all off

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I wouldn't yet feel comfortable trading two 1B centres for OEL. I wouldn't even do it for Subban.

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I'm sorry...but when Phoenix players say OEL > Malkin, then yes, he is overrated

What do you think it would take Pitts to get OEL? I'm curious...as of now it stands at

Malkin + for OEL


IMO, as good as OEL is, PHX doesn't even have what it takes to get Malkin on their team...he's arguable the 2nd best player in the world and a center to top it all off
Not sure who said that and your question is extremely hypothetical because we all know that neither player would be traded. Having said that and taking Crosby and Malkin out of the equation, Pittsburgh wouldn't be able to make it worth losing a player who will be at the top of the league for 15 years.

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