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07-29-2013, 01:41 PM
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Easily a better player than Tinordi.

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07-29-2013, 02:05 PM
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Easily a better player than Tinordi.
NB's ceiling is no doubt higher but for me, Tinordi's a lock to become a very solid shut-down D where Beaulieu definitely has question marks. Tinordi's intangibles (vague word I know) is what makes me believe a lot more in him than NB. Tinner seems like a future captain.

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07-29-2013, 02:20 PM
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NB40 in my opinion is easily the best prospect in the organization. Nathan will get 30-40 games this upcoming season. Habs got a steal when he fell to #17

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07-29-2013, 02:34 PM
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What about Bobby Orr or Sergei Zubov?

Shouldn't set such a low ceiling for him...
C'mon man, I am often realistic which is interpreted as negative. I should have called him a mix of Patrick Traverse and Yannick Vebber. On another thread, there is a Diaz appreciation. My God, we have become so mediocre.

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07-29-2013, 03:24 PM
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Based solely on Twitter Bealieu will be a mix of Subban and Ryan O'Byrne.

Sorry I have nothing valuable to add to this thread.

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07-29-2013, 04:34 PM
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Like him a lot, sadly wouldn't surprise if he gets dealt for maybe not having enough "character".

He needs to fill out, I've seen him listed at 6'3, 6'2, and 6'1, from seeing him play last year, he looks 6'1 and in the 180's, wtv his height, he needs to get to around 200 ibs.


He will most likely start the year in the AHL but hopefully Daiz can be moved to make more him and maybe end th year with.

Tinordi Subban
Markov Emelin
Beaulieu Gorges

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07-29-2013, 06:04 PM
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Like him a lot, sadly wouldn't surprise if he gets dealt for maybe not having enough "character".

He needs to fill out, I've seen him listed at 6'3, 6'2, and 6'1, from seeing him play last year, he looks 6'1 and in the 180's, wtv his height, he needs to get to around 200 ibs.


He will most likely start the year in the AHL but hopefully Daiz can be moved to make more him and maybe end th year with.

Tinordi Subban
Markov Emelin
Beaulieu Gorges
Beaulieu has enough character, for those who bother to learn anything more about him than the widely publicized assault charge.

And for what it's worth, Beaulieu has shown in Junior to be an excellent learner. One of the things that Gerard Gallant and Mike Kelly said of Beaulieu time and time again was that he was extremely coachable.

What Beaulieu needs to work on can be taught. If he can continue to prove to be a good student of the game, good coaching will help him reach his full potential.

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07-29-2013, 06:17 PM
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Beaulieu has enough character, for those who bother to learn anything more about him than the widely publicized assault charge.

And for what it's worth, Beaulieu has shown in Junior to be an excellent learner. One of the things that Gerard Gallant and Mike Kelly said of Beaulieu time and time again was that he was extremely coachable.

What Beaulieu needs to work on can be taught. If he can continue to prove to be a good student of the game, good coaching will help him reach his full potential.
I hope you're right. If he puts it together then he and Subban in our top 4 will be deadly.

I've been very pleased with his play from what I've seen but I still can't help but feel when there's smoke there's possibly fire.

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07-29-2013, 06:18 PM
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Beaulieu has enough character, for those who bother to learn anything more about him than the widely publicized assault charge.

And for what it's worth, Beaulieu has shown in Junior to be an excellent learner. One of the things that Gerard Gallant and Mike Kelly said of Beaulieu time and time again was that he was extremely coachable.

What Beaulieu needs to work on can be taught. If he can continue to prove to be a good student of the game, good coaching will help him reach his full potential.
I personally don't see any problems with Beaulieu but team seem rather trade away anyone with suspect character issue's rather than work with them, Kristo was traded away before giving a chance.

Like I said, I hope not, but just that I wouldn't be surprised.

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07-29-2013, 06:25 PM
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from what i read and saw beaulieu is one of our top prospects. He skates very well and has great speed. Skating hasn't been an issue for beaulieu his career but the question is if he can put it all together. The guy is 6'2" 200lbs, has good nhl size and superb skating. Only question mark is his defensive zone coverage.

He seems to have all the tools to be a top 2 defenseman. I hope management don't trade him away like ryan mcdonagh. Give beaulieu time. He reminds me of a young ryan suter. Suter in his early career had the same attribute but ran around and didn't solidify himself until his 3rd season at age 22. Expect the same with beaulieu.

Having beaulieu and subban quarterbacking the powerplay is a blessing for the team.
You can't compare tinordi and beaulieu. Beaulieu is a difference maker and possibly a powerplay specialist. Tinordi on the other hand is a warrior a soldier, he is the type of player that will grind and get you that cup. Beaulieu is like seguin, lots of skills but floats, tinordi is bergeron, plays his heart out.
bang on if his d comes around he will be solid

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Lets first see how the inmates in the prison treat him; this should tell us what kind of team player he will become when he gets out.

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07-29-2013, 06:59 PM
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I personally don't see any problems with Beaulieu but team seem rather trade away anyone with suspect character issue's rather than work with them, Kristo was traded away before giving a chance.

Like I said, I hope not, but just that I wouldn't be surprised.
if you trade him get a comparable solid kid for solid kid deal

if Philly wants hoim bad since they have no D

I WANT COTOURIER

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if you trade him get a comparable solid kid for solid kid deal

if Philly wants hoim bad since they have no D

I WANT COTOURIER
Then learn how to spell his name.

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07-29-2013, 07:29 PM
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if you trade him get a comparable solid kid for solid kid deal

if Philly wants hoim bad since they have no D

I WANT COTOURIER
I doubt they would move Couturier, I think IF a trade for Beaulieu to Philly would happen, we might get a Coburn.

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07-29-2013, 07:35 PM
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IMO he has to get stronger on the puck and increase his overall strength....
there is alot to like in his play and I think that he needs to play more...feed him some shifts and let him dictate his ice time...

young kid who's best days are ahead.

patience is needed.

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07-29-2013, 07:38 PM
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IMO he has to get stronger on the puck and increase his overall strength....
there is alot to like in his play and I think that he needs to play more...feed him some shifts and let him dictate his ice time...

young kid who's best days are ahead.

patience is needed.

You just described 99% of all rookies. Do you have any actual thoughts of your own?

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if you trade him get a comparable solid kid for solid kid deal

if Philly wants hoim bad since they have no D

I WANT COTOURIER
Couts will be a good player, but he's not what we should be gunning for.

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07-29-2013, 07:54 PM
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You just described 99% of all rookies. Do you have any actual thoughts of your own?
well its true...he got pushed off the puck too easily.

right now in his game he is all offense so his defensive play is going to have to get alot better.

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07-29-2013, 08:07 PM
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NB's ceiling is no doubt higher but for me, Tinordi's a lock to become a very solid shut-down D where Beaulieu definitely has question marks. Tinordi's intangibles (vague word I know) is what makes me believe a lot more in him than NB. Tinner seems like a future captain.
Tinordi has shown me that he can play in the NHL and not look entirely out of place, I don't think he's a lock for anything. I think bealieu will be a staple on our d for a decade more, the kids the real deal.

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07-29-2013, 08:15 PM
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Couts will be a good player, but he's not what we should be gunning for.
Jean Coutu would be nice but I don't think Philly did him any favours in rushing him to the bigs like they did.

Push comes to shove, I think I'd trade NB for him. It would be a tough call. If they'd take DD as well then giddy the $#@% up!

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this guy has the tools to be very good, but it all comes down to what's going on between his ears

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well its true...he got pushed off the puck too easily.

right now in his game he is all offense so his defensive play is going to have to get alot better.
I wasn't trying to be rude, but most young dmen suffer from this feature. Unless you are 6'2 230, it's a tough game trying to stay on the puck, especially with the elimination of holding up players who are on the forecheck. They come wailing in at full speed now, nobody can slow them down.

I feel he's stronger on the puck than Tinordi at this point, until Jared grows into his frame anyways.

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I personally don't see any problems with Beaulieu but team seem rather trade away anyone with suspect character issue's rather than work with them, Kristo was traded away before giving a chance.

Like I said, I hope not, but just that I wouldn't be surprised.
Are you kidding??

Kristo is 23, and was drafted by the Habs in 2008. That's plenty of time to assess the player and give him a chance to show he belongs. Beaulieu is 20, drafted in 2011. As a 20 he looked better than Kristo at 23.

Why, WHY does everyone talk of 'suspect character issues'?? Seriously, it's getting ridiculous. It's like Habs fans are already annointing him the heir apparent to the title of future whipping boy.

When this guy earns a regular spot on the Habs he's gonna show you why he was a steal at #17. For now, he can't buy a break from half the Habs fans on HFBoards.

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07-29-2013, 09:13 PM
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Are you kidding??

Kristo is 23, and was drafted by the Habs in 2008. That's plenty of time to assess the player and give him a chance to show he belongs. Beaulieu is 20, drafted in 2011. As a 20 he looked better than Kristo at 23.

Why, WHY does everyone talk of 'suspect character issues'?? Seriously, it's getting ridiculous. It's like Habs fans are already annointing him the heir apparent to the title of future whipping boy.

When this guy earns a regular spot on the Habs he's gonna show you why he was a steal at #17. For now, he can't buy a break from half the Habs fans on HFBoards.
It really wasn't a shot at Beaulieu who I like, but rather than a shot at management, I mean like you said Kristo was drafted in 08, wait all this time, only to trade him as he starts his pro career.


Heck even the way they treated Subban early on..MT talking about looking to make him not only a better play but a better teammate before he even coached him...

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He looks weird on the ice. I think it's because he really needs to add weight. I hope we can see him play between 20 to 40 games this season while playing in Hamilton for the most part of the season.

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