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07-29-2013, 09:20 PM
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It really wasn't a shot at Beaulieu who I like, but rather than a shot at management, I mean like you said Kristo was drafted in 08, wait all this time, only to trade him as he starts his pro career.
Well if that's all you're worried about Beaulieu has already flown past Kristo - he's got 73 pro games under his belt, 6 of them in the NHL. He led the Bulldogs in scoring for crying out loud.

Kristo was suspended multiple times by both his NCAA team and his university. He spent four seasons in NCAA, which probably stunted his development. Comparing him to Beaulieu is like comparing apples to oranges.

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His play in Hamilton and in Montreal were night and day. He was absolutely nervous in Montreal and it showed, which is to be expected.

I watched him play a couple times in Hamilton this past season and I know it's kind of weird to compare young players to young players but in Hamilton he looked identical to Jake Gardiner. They both control the flow of the game and move the puck with ease. A ton of poise with the puck and hardly overplayed the man defensively, the only thing Jake did that Nathan didn't was put up points but this isn't a big deal to me as Nathan was learning the pro game.

I think Beaulieu and Gardiner will be comparables starting this season and it will continue for a long time, both good young players with limitless ceilings.

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07-29-2013, 09:23 PM
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Well if that's all you're worried about Beaulieu has already flown past Kristo - he's got 73 pro games under his belt, 6 of them in the NHL. He led the Bulldogs in scoring for crying out loud.

Kristo was suspended multiple times by both his NCAA team and his university. He spent four seasons in NCAA, which probably stunted his development. Comparing him to Beaulieu is like comparing apples to oranges.
As easy as it is to bash on Kristo now that he's gone, he's going to be a hell of a player in the NHL. Another player the club gave to NY who will be a stud, I just hope Thomas can be a good role player for MTL.

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07-29-2013, 09:26 PM
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As easy as it is to bash on Kristo now that he's gone, he's going to be a hell of a player in the NHL. Another player the club gave to NY who will be a stud, I just hope Thomas can be a good role player for MTL.
I don't expect Thomas to make the NHL. We already have a lot of players in front of him in the dept chart to make the jump from AHL to NHL

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I don't expect Thomas to make the NHL. We already have a lot of players in front of him in the dept chart to make the jump from AHL to NHL
A lot of people didn't expect his dad to make the NHL either

Either way, I didn't care for trading Kristo but I understand that if they don't feel his personality fits with the club they had to move him. I just think they gave up a real talent and they could have at least put in a bit more effort in molding his behaviour.

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Well if that's all you're worried about Beaulieu has already flown past Kristo - he's got 73 pro games under his belt, 6 of them in the NHL. He led the Bulldogs in scoring for crying out loud.

Kristo was suspended multiple times by both his NCAA team and his university. He spent four seasons in NCAA, which probably stunted his development. Comparing him to Beaulieu is like comparing apples to oranges.
I hope so, it just that after the charges being against him can't help get a weird feeling.

Hopeful team works with him IF they see any signs of charterer issue, rather than trade them.

On a positive note, Gerard Gallant is one of the ast coach, who seems to have had a positive relationship with Beaulieu because of there time with the Sea Dogs, so hopeful it builds in Mtl.

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didn't one of kristo's friend on twitter accidentally spill the beans that he basically had asked to be traded?

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07-30-2013, 06:13 AM
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didn't one of kristo's friend on twitter accidentally spill the beans that he basically had asked to be traded?
Why Kristo would ask to be traded? He signed a 2-year contract a few months ago and only played 9 games with the Bulldogs. What kind of excuse did he find to get traded?

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07-30-2013, 06:18 AM
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It really wasn't a shot at Beaulieu who I like, but rather than a shot at management, I mean like you said Kristo was drafted in 08, wait all this time, only to trade him as he starts his pro career.


Heck even the way they treated Subban early on..MT talking about looking to make him not only a better play but a better teammate before he even coached him...
Kristo is a dime a dozen prospect. I doubt we ever miss giving him up.

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07-30-2013, 10:34 AM
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What are people's evaluation's of Beaulieu
Very skilled offensively, can take over a game when he wants to as he can do a lot of damage in the offensive zone. But in his own end he needs a lot of improvement, bad reads, positioning, mental mistakes, etc... Would like to see him improve his lower body strength a good bit.

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Brolieu has looked so lost in his own zone at times that it's just brutal to watch. Unless he improves a LOT there I don't see his great skating and offensive game making up for the lack of defensive awareness.

#4-5 D man / PP specialist IMO. I hope he proves me wrong though.
That's about where I see him ending up.

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I see him as an extremely talented offensively Dmen, but with some obvious shortcomings defensively.

I think Markov is a good example for him, but hopefully he can bring more physicality to the game.

Let's hope the dogs have a better season this time around.
I wish Markov was a good example but I don't think he'll be at that level.

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WOW, he's that bad defensively? I thought he was at least average but after reading your post I think he needs another year in the AHL, we will see after.

I expect 10 games in the NHL in 2013-14 (if no injuries) and a lot more in 2014-15.
I also think he needs another year in the AHL to work on his defensive game.

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I don't think he is as terrible defensively as some make him out to be. True, he looked lost in his own zone at times last season but he also went from being on a dominant Jr. team to a cellar dwelling AHL team. I thought he made a lot of progress defensively as the season went on but the biggest improvement was managing his frustration level and thinking a little clearer which helped to minimize his 'looking lost' moments. Considering that he is only 20, I think he is on the right track and while he may never dominate defensively, I think he will be respectable.
I thought he struggled in his own end all season long.

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he's not bad defensively.he's young and needs time to develop.waaaay too early to tell how he's gonna pan out,but as of now he looks to be like a top 4 d man.
he's very bad defensively imo.

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One of the most offensively gifted D prospects, incridible offensive instinct and skills..

On the down side, his lack of concentration and consistency are really worrysome, has a tendency for braincramps and he is floating way too much for my taste.. Needs a good deal of work defensively as well..

He is still pretty young and has improved improved considerably last year so there is no reason to panic at this point, but the kid sure is still raw..
I agree, he's still young and still raw, will be very interesting to see how he progresses over the next few years.

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Easily a better player than Tinordi.
I would take Tinordi over Beaulieu easily, as we sorely need Tinordi imo.

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His play in Hamilton and in Montreal were night and day. He was absolutely nervous in Montreal and it showed, which is to be expected.
I thought he looked about the same in the NHL that he did in the AHL. Good things in the O zone, bad things in his own end.

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What are people's evaluation's of Beaulieu?

I'm having a bit of a tough time getting a read on him. He has a fantastic ceiling for an offensive defenseman, but he needs to:

A) Refine his defensive game in a big way, he's not ready to play much 5 on 5 in the NHL yet.

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B) Embolden himself at the NHL level (trust his skills to be a difference maker offensively), as his value is reliant on him being an offensive player.


But there's also alot to like. He has Grade A tools for an offensive minded player, he has good size, he's got more edge than most players of his breed, and he's also coming off a great rookie pro year in Hamilton when considering he was one of the younger guys in the AHL, and that Hamilton lacked offensive talent in a big way.

Also, how should he be handled? I'm thinking he's timing perfectly for when Markov expires after this season, I expect to see him as a semi regular this year, something like 20 games or so, and then having himself ready for a regular spot in 2014-2015. I'd also like to see him dominate the AHL this year, but that might be tough considering his supporting cast.


I have Tinordi ahead of him personally in my personal evaluation, Tinordi is ready to step in and play an important role now and has plus makeup/leadership as opposed to questionable makeup/leadership, but I do consider Beaulieu our most interesting prospect, if not our best.


So what are people's thought's about Beaulieu?
Guy Lapointe.

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Guy Lapointe.
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