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07-19-2013, 03:42 AM
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I always thought Straka was criminally underrated.

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07-19-2013, 09:57 AM
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07-19-2013, 10:40 AM
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First name that comes to mind is Jan Erixon. Watching him shadow Lemieux was amazing.

Sergei Nemchinov, the consummate professional.

Mike Rogers is also a great choice...part of Herb Brooks' smurfs.

Normand Rochefort also comes to mind here...even though his tenure here was short, he brought defensive toughness that had been missing since Barry Beck left.

Beezer is a good choice too.

Post-lockout I would say Martin Straka, Vinny Prospal, and (at times, especially his first two years) Sean Avery. At other times, Avery was also over-rated by the fan base.

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Straka was pretty underrated

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07-21-2013, 12:01 PM
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Beezer's legacy seems to have been forgotten with Richter's success and Cup win. And now with Lundqvist.
Legacy? Good run I would say.


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Have a strange personal issue completely unrelated to Radek Dvorak but reminds me of Radek Dvorak so I always hated the guy, but I'd probably agree he was underrated here.

Blair Betts comes to mind as an underrated player that hasn't already been mentioned. Not that he wasn't expendable, but he played his role as a bottom 6 penalty killing defensive forward as well or better than anyone in the league for a couple of years there.

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07-22-2013, 03:39 AM
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Definitely Stralman. That guy plays top4 minutes and never disappoints. He's a bargain for his current contract. I hope he stays for a couple more years.

Callahan is another one. Some people don't realize how much he does for the team.

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07-24-2013, 03:32 PM
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During my time as a Ranger fan, I'd say these guys:

Jan Erixon
Sergei Nemchinov
Alexander Karpovtsev, RIP
Darren Langdon
Dallas Eakins
Niklas Sundstrom
Mathieu Schneider
Martin Straka
Blair Betts
Ryan Callahan
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07-25-2013, 12:32 PM
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My quick list: I go back to the mid 70s boys...

Steve Vickers - one of my all time favs....
Ron Greshner - played a long time (with lead skates in the end) married Carol Alt
Jan Erixon - The Shadow
Kelly Kisio-worked well with Mullen and Johnny O
Mike Gartner - goal scoring machine - just not in playoffs
Sarge - gritty Russian
Ulf Dahlen - gritty Swede
Walt Poddubny- 78 goals in two seasons in the mid 80s...died way too young
Rosival - guy played everyday...
Tomas Sandstrom - an enigma - great shot

Rochefort never really played all that much
I think a guy who really doesent get all that much press he really does deserve with the current fan base ...maybe because of the era is really Brad Park...I caught the tail end of his career. He is in the HOF but really isnt talked about all that much when discussing the Ranger greats...maybe I am wrong...just my opinion

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Nice iist. I think the fact that Gartner and Sarge are mentioned so often being underrated must mean they're not.

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John Ogrodnick was pretty darn good...

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First name that comes to mind is Jan Erixon. Watching him shadow Lemieux was amazing.

Sergei Nemchinov, the consummate professional.

Mike Rogers is also a great choice...part of Herb Brooks' smurfs.

Normand Rochefort also comes to mind here...even though his tenure here was short, he brought defensive toughness that had been missing since Barry Beck left.

Beezer is a good choice too.

Post-lockout I would say Martin Straka, Vinny Prospal, and (at times, especially his first two years) Sean Avery. At other times, Avery was also over-rated by the fan base.
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07-30-2013, 07:58 AM
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Del Zotto. I've never seen a kid that was 22 years old last year, has already had 2 very good NHL seasons for a defenseman, take so much crap from a fan base because the incompetent forwards never score. Yes, he had a sub par season last year. He was 22 and he played for a coach that refused to let any offensive player get the most out of his talents.

If the Rangers had drafted this kid 8 years ago, the fans would have been talking about him like he was a core piece to build around. The only reason this kid takes so much abuse is because the Rangers have had a ton of success developing young players lately so they needed a whipping boy out of all the young players and this guy was it.

I personally think Boyle is a distraction to MDZ. Boyle to me is not a motivated player until they get to the playoffs. I would trade him. Avery was a bad influence on MDZ and Boyle is no better.

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07-30-2013, 08:40 AM
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I personally think Boyle is a distraction to MDZ. Boyle to me is not a motivated player until they get to the playoffs. I would trade him. Avery was a bad influence on MDZ and Boyle is no better.
I don't even understand how you could come to this conclusion

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Del Zotto. I've never seen a kid that was 22 years old last year, has already had 2 very good NHL seasons for a defenseman, take so much crap from a fan base because the incompetent forwards never score. Yes, he had a sub par season last year. He was 22 and he played for a coach that refused to let any offensive player get the most out of his talents.

If the Rangers had drafted this kid 8 years ago, the fans would have been talking about him like he was a core piece to build around. The only reason this kid takes so much abuse is because the Rangers have had a ton of success developing young players lately so they needed a whipping boy out of all the young players and this guy was it.

I personally think Boyle is a distraction to MDZ. Boyle to me is not a motivated player until they get to the playoffs. I would trade him. Avery was a bad influence on MDZ and Boyle is no better.
Riddle me this--why does Boyle get motivated for the playoffs and MDZ seem demotivated for the playoffs? What exactly do you know that would lead you to believe that Sean Avery has been a bad influence on Del Zotto or any influence at all?--but if these two as you seem to suggest are keeping MDZ from reaching the pinnacle of his game then I'd suggest he has a lot of growing up to do.

DZ gets critiqued like any other player. He's average at best in his own end. His specialty is creating offense--when his strengths aren't standing out and his weaknesses are then he gets **** on a bit. It's easier I'll admit to like d-men who take care of first things first--playing in their own end. To get more respect Del Zotto IMO has got to bust through this 40 point plateau he seems stuck on--the Rangers need him to get into the 50's anyway. It's not just because their forwards can't finish--they need better play from their pointmen on the pwp for one area that DZ can help them at. He's been a regular there the past few years and the pwp has not gotten better--if anything it's got worse.

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I don't even understand how you could come to this conclusion
Steps up for playoffs. Trade him.

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Del Zotto. I've never seen a kid that was 22 years old last year, has already had 2 very good NHL seasons for a defenseman, take so much crap from a fan base because the incompetent forwards never score.
You could just as easily say that MDZ's 2 best offensive seasons were the result of playing with one of the best natural goal scorers, Gaborik, scoring at an elite level. You can't blame his teammates when things don't go great and ignore them when they do. I don't think MDZ has proven he can be a team's top offensive Dman yet but I believe he can get to the point where he's serviceable in that role.

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Radek Dvorak
Michael Roszival
Marek Malik
Martin Straka
Michael Nylander
Jan Erixon
Sergei Zubov
Sergei Nemchinov

I wouldn't say underrated. More like underappreciated. There are a lot of underappreciated players.

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07-31-2013, 11:12 AM
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I think with all the big names that get mentioned with the 94 team, Jeff Beukeboom always seems to be a name that flys under the radar. He understood his role and it really helped Brian Leetch thrive. He was the big, nasty and physical defenseman that had a presence on the ice. Guys like that don't grow on trees. In my opinion to this day, they still haven't really found anyone close to him (that doesn't suck) to fill his shoes.

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I think with all the big names that get mentioned with the 94 team, Jeff Beukeboom always seems to be a name that flys under the radar. He understood his role and it really helped Brian Leetch thrive. He was the big, nasty and physical defenseman that had a presence on the ice. Guys like that don't grow on trees. In my opinion to this day, they still haven't really found anyone close to him (that doesn't suck) to fill his shoes.
Eh, Beukeboom gets his due around here. He was a huge guy who liked to hit - NYR fans love that stuff.

If there was an underrated defenseman on the '94 team, I'd go with Kevin Lowe. Very solid with zero flash to his game.

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