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07-30-2013, 11:13 AM
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Pietrangelo negotiations going that badly, huh?

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07-30-2013, 11:27 AM
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Pietrangelo negotiations going that badly, huh?
No, he's even said he doesn't want to entertain offer sheets.

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07-30-2013, 11:36 AM
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The bottom 6 is definitely much thinner than it has been in previous years, Sutter's a good young player but his line is never going to be the workhorse that was the Cooke - Staal - Kennedy line. In an ideal world Pens would bring in top 6 winger to push Dupuis to the 3rd line (or at least have the option). That doesn't seem likely to happen this year with the cap and it looks like they'd have to develop their own or trade for one.
Bottom 6 weak or not, you have to spread out your assets. You cant have all stars at all 12/13 forward positions, all 6/7 D, and goalies. You have to give somewhere to buff elsewhere. That is the whole point of the cap, to at least somewhat level the playing field.

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07-30-2013, 11:44 AM
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Pietrangelo negotiations going that badly, huh?
Not at all, as previously stated he even told his agent to forget the idea of entertaining an offer sheet. Please become informed before making such an idiotic comment.

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No, he's even said he doesn't want to entertain offer sheets.
But it's almost August and he's not signed, which makes this deal even worse.

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07-30-2013, 11:53 AM
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But it's almost August and he's not signed, which makes this deal even worse.
Oh my god, you're right. We should probably just trade Petro since he isnt signed yet.

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07-30-2013, 12:00 PM
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Oh my god, you're right. We should probably just trade Petro since he isnt signed yet.
You can do whatever you want with him, though personally I hope it involves more sarcasm.

Just pointing out that it makes the deal in the OP even less of an option.

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07-30-2013, 12:27 PM
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I think Berglund/AP makes more sense, both hockey-wise and speaking practically.
Then you're alone on your island. We need forwards, not another Norris caliber D (we already have Letang).

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And we all know Pitts specialty is stopping goals from going in...

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This doesn't benefeit either team IMO

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07-30-2013, 01:55 PM
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And we all know Pitts specialty is stopping goals from going in...
AP and the Blues managed to come in at an tremendously impressive 4 less goals against in the regular season. Well worth trading away our real speciality for, I guess.

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And we all know Pitts specialty is stopping goals from going in...
Letang, Martin, Orpik, Scuderi, Despres and Niskanen along with one of the best defense prospect pipelines in the league. I realize HF is in love with the Blues defense. But the Pens is just fine.

It's not a problem of personnel. It's a team mindset.

We don't win a Cup next year without an addition of a top 9 forward, I can guarantee you that.

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07-30-2013, 03:14 PM
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Hey, another Malkin proposal. So how do you feel about this one Homer?


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07-30-2013, 03:33 PM
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I mean. I'd like to hear some debate around this? Too huge to happen, but seems reasonable value-wise right?
Its very close, but Malkin is still worth more. I think Weber is the best in the game at defense, but Malkin is a Generational talent.

Malkin for Weber + Forsberg is around his value.

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07-30-2013, 04:16 PM
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Its very close, but Malkin is still worth more. I think Weber is the best in the game at defense, but Malkin is a Generational talent.

Malkin for Weber + Forsberg is around his value.
No it's not. You don't add the the best defenseman in the world. Even for Malkin. Malkin for Weber is the right value.

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07-30-2013, 05:17 PM
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Blues say yes. Pens say no. Pretty easy.

Any Blues fan that wouldn't do this and thinks it "destroys" our defense is out of their minds. Malkin is one of the best players in the league and would dramatically help our offense.

Bouwmeester-Shattenkirk
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Leopold-Polak
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Yeah terrible!!!!

And hell, for good measure, if we got Malkin, we could probably package a forward and prospect for another top-4 d-man if we wanted.

I'm not proposing trading Petro at all, but this is Evgeni Malkin. Quit being short-sighted.

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07-30-2013, 05:27 PM
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Blues say yes. Pens say no. Pretty easy.

Any Blues fan that wouldn't do this and thinks it "destroys" our defense is out of their minds. Malkin is one of the best players in the league and would dramatically help our offense.

Bouwmeester-Shattenkirk
Jackman-Niskanen
Leopold-Polak
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Yeah terrible!!!!

And hell, for good measure, if we got Malkin, we could probably package a forward and prospect for another top-4 d-man if we wanted.

I'm not proposing trading Petro at all, but this is Evgeni Malkin. Quit being short-sighted.
Well for starters, the difference between this defense with and without Petro is massive. Shattenkirk isn't ready for top pairing minutes. Secondly, there was a second proposal that was awful that most of us were responding to. Thirdly, we'd have a hard time affording Malkin's salary. And I'm not just talking salary cap wise.

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07-30-2013, 05:34 PM
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Malkin
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AP
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Who says no?

Let me have it
Everyone.

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AP and the Blues managed to come in at an tremendously impressive 4 less goals against in the regular season. Well worth trading away our real speciality for, I guess.
Oh come on man don't pretend for one second the Penguins are playing for the regular season and you can omit the atrocities of Marc-Andre Fluery.

Of course they don't need Pietro, but lets not act like that's what their team does to win games or even should be considering how poorly that goes when they let the opposition get into their heads.

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