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Rangers sign Troy Donnay to ELC (3 years, $2.15M, $717k AAV)

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07-31-2013, 11:37 AM
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His weight is correct. 185lbs.

He is a defensive d-man who keeps it simple from what I have read.


he can hold his own









seems like a Hal Gill type that can fight... anyone agree??




seems to care about his hair

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07-31-2013, 11:39 AM
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excellent question. hope he can put on 20lbs.
He needs to put on at least 50 more pounds if he's 6'7".

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07-31-2013, 11:44 AM
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he can hold his own


seems like a Hal Gill type that can fight... anyone agree??
You deciphered that from a few youtube videos? Amazing.

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07-31-2013, 11:48 AM
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Stats should always be considered, but within reason of course. You know what they say; "Lies, bloody lies, and statistics."

His awful +/- is certainly inflated by playing on a horrible team.
Well I'm definitely not uniformly against statistics, just +/-.

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We can't afford to carry highly-paid players like Richards and Gaborik unless we have a constant flow of young players with cheap contracts.

A team can normally do this through the draft. However, I expect that the Rangers will be a very good team in the next few years, at least until the end of Gaborik's contract, so our 2012, 2013 and 2014 draft positions will be very late.

This year we will get either #29 or #30. The odds of getting even a marginal NHL player at this position are against us.

Even in strong drafts like 1990, 1997 and 2003, draft picks at 29-30 failed to make the NHL. Of the 20 players drafted at 29 and 30 in the 1990s, only 5 played 400+ games (5 seasons of 80 games), and the best of them were Jonathan Cheechoo and Sandis Ozolinsh, not exactly Hall of Famers. (The others were Jassen Cullimore, Stan Neckar, Deron Quint.)

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The only option on the table is to acquire young players who may not have been drafted, but then blossomed, or to acquire reclamation projects.

In both cases, most will be failures. For every Girardi, there will be 5 Tommy Grants. Most reclamation projects will be failures as well.

But we have no other choice. We will need to fill up our prospect corps...
I wrote the above a little over a year ago and it looks like my prediction is holding. The Rangers have gone out of their way to sign undrafted prospects: Allen, Nicholls, Hughes, Kantor and now Donnay in a few weeks this summer. They may not be done, with Tolchinsky (and others) a distinct possibility.

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He needs to put on at least 50 more pounds if he's 6'7".
oh, no doubt. but lets start with 20 and get him over 200 first. lol

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I have little to no care about his ability to fight. Playing defense, however, hopefully he can do that. I hear defense is pretty important for a defenseman

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I have little to no care about his ability to fight. Playing defense, however, hopefully he can do that. I hear defense is pretty important for a defenseman
i hope he knows how to fight... i see other teams like the Bruins and Blackhakws stick up for their goalie when he gets bumped into... Rangers must do the same... a lot of fans complained in the past that no one sticks up for Lundqvist when their is no call when he getting bummped into... Rangers defense MUST BE GET TOUGHER AND MEANER WITHOUT LOSING DEFENSIVE RESPONSIBILITY...


remember this

i guess Lundqvist should stick up for himself and take a chance of getting hurt..


some fans said Callahan was dumb for this.... if their is a scrum in front of your own goalie, your teammates better get involved....

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I have little to no care about his ability to fight. Playing defense, however, hopefully he can do that. I hear defense is pretty important for a defenseman
Fighting is the most important part of defense, silly.

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some fans said Callahan was dumb for this.... if their is a scrum in front of your own goalie, your teammates better get involved....
And I wouldn't guess that Talbot showed any hesitance about approaching Lundqvist after that, so what did it accomplish?

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Fighting is the most important part of defense, silly.
I guess he can punch the puck away from Lundqvist

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And I wouldn't guess that Talbot showed any hesitance about approaching Lundqvist after that, so what did it accomplish?
Fighting within the heat of the game being a momentum changer has some legitimacy.

Having a fighter on the bench and believing he is some sort of deterrent is pure fantasy.

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Someone feed this dude and we'll have our own Chara lol.

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6 ft 7 185 the ****?

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at 6'7" he could add 40 pounds and STILL be considered light

as a defensive defenceman he needs to play at 250+

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And I wouldn't guess that Talbot showed any hesitance about approaching Lundqvist after that, so what did it accomplish?
Had Cally not got injured the moment the fight started practically - there could have been a better effect.

But I remember watching that game, and I don't recall Talbot still getting into Henrik's kitchen like that.

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Had Cally not got injured the moment the fight started practically - there could have been a better effect.

But I remember watching that game, and I don't recall Talbot still getting into Henrik's kitchen like that.
In the four shifts Talbot had after that? Go Cally!

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I'm still amazed that alot of folks still do not get what fighting does for a team, a room full of guys.

the deterrent is in the group mentality that you mess with one, you mess with all. That mentality is forged in the trenches when you have your Captain doing what he did, even if he risks getting hurt in the process.

the more a team comes to the aid of a teammate, the more they come to the aid of a teammate.

Every team is going to have their guys that fill that role. Those guys are a dime a dozen. It's when your Captain and top defenceman and skilled guys come in to do that job that a bond within the team starts to form.

The Rangers best season in the last 15 years, they were top 5 in the league in fighting majors.

Direct correlation to fighting and winning? No.

Direct correlation between being a confident and very close knit group and winning? Absolutely.

When your main guys have the confidence that the team, not just specific guys, have your back, you play a bigger game.

That means when someone sneezes in Hanks direction, a hand to that guys face should be immediate.

Someone hits one of our skilled players hard, clean or not, that player needs to be confronted physically. If the hit was dirty, then that player needs to be pummeled by 2-3 Rangers and let the chips fall where they may.

would hate to be teammates with some posters here.

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I'm still amazed that alot of folks still do not get what fighting does for a team, a room full of guys.

the deterrent is in the group mentality that you mess with one, you mess with all. That mentality is forged in the trenches when you have your Captain doing what he did, even if he risks getting hurt in the process.

the more a team comes to the aid of a teammate, the more they come to the aid of a teammate.

Every team is going to have their guys that fill that role. Those guys are a dime a dozen. It's when your Captain and top defenceman and skilled guys come in to do that job that a bond within the team starts to form.

The Rangers best season in the last 15 years, they were top 5 in the league in fighting majors.

Direct correlation to fighting and winning? No.

Direct correlation between being a confident and very close knit group and winning? Absolutely.

When your main guys have the confidence that the team, not just specific guys, have your back, you play a bigger game.

That means when someone sneezes in Hanks direction, a hand to that guys face should be immediate.

Someone hits one of our skilled players hard, clean or not, that player needs to be confronted physically. If the hit was dirty, then that player needs to be pummeled by 2-3 Rangers and let the chips fall where they may.

would hate to be teammates with some posters here.
Some people will never get it and will always stick to their no fighting opinion. I totally agree with what you're saying, and I would think most who played themselves would feel the same way. If they don't, they might have been that guy on the squad that you can do without. Teams have those guys, no matter what.

The bolded is how I feel 7 ways to Sunday. All the years I played goal, the d-core always had some if not all that really made you pay for it if you rubbed the goalie the wrong way. Or at least deterred them in some way. Heck most of the team was like it - not just the D.

Sticking up for your teammates is huge.

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Guys, I know this is a repetitive subject where we all state how we either love/hate fighting but this is the Troy Dunnay thread. Any info on him is appreciated.

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I like what I see in this kid. For him being that skinny a couple of good bouts against opponents most likely thicker than him shows he definitely has good balance.

I'd like to see some gameplay for sure. But so far, I like this signing.

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Watched him a lot back in his youth days. And watched him more about 20+ times in the OHL. I think he can turn out to be a big solid shut down D. But he needs to put on 20 pounds, He's about 6"7-6"8 185 pounds. If he gets up to 210 he will be good.

-Good signing for the Rangers in the long run. He will bring size, and some toughness.

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Guys, I know this is a repetitive subject where we all state how we either love/hate fighting but this is the Troy Dunnay thread. Any info on him is appreciated.
fair enough.

I have no issues taking a flier on guys like this.

It usually takes guys this big alot more time for them to be comfortable in their own skin before they can feel comfortable peeling the skin off an opponent.

He's a project, lets see what the staff can do with him over the next 4-5 years if he's here that long.

I would not expect to see this guy in the NHL until he's 25, if ever.

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I wrote the above a little over a year ago and it looks like my prediction is holding. The Rangers have gone out of their way to sign undrafted prospects: Allen, Nicholls, Hughes, Kantor and now Donnay in a few weeks this summer. They may not be done, with Tolchinsky (and others) a distinct possibility.
Kudos to you, Beacon, for reminding us that finding these undrafted gems is another way to get ahead/make up for prior bad drafts.

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He needs to put on at least 50 more pounds if he's 6'7".
I was going to say 70...

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